Guest guest Posted January 21, 2001 Report Share Posted January 21, 2001 Dear Robert <<I think what has come out of all this discussion, is that the often piercing language of the classics, has to be interpreted according to what is currently digestible. "Curses of Brahmanas" is harsh, yes, but have you noticed that some people just do not "get" certain things? The affliction of Jupiter causes this, and, even though the language of curses and so forth are hard to wrap our minds around, the astrological event of Rahu afflicting Jupiter is going to have its repercussions. If a persons with such in their chart "gets it", then other maladies exist such as problems through defiance of gurus, saints, or learned persons.>> "Curses of Brahmanas" is harsh, yes, but have you noticed that some people just do not "get" certain things? " In Spanish speaking countries people talk a lot about curses, which they believe to come from diverse sources. The bigger the problem or disease, the bigger the curse. They believe that they can not get certain things because of some curse. And many pray for Christian saints or their gods if following the religion of their tribal family. There are curses in history and curses in the vedic literature, in fact some of our "bad" karma comes from curses. And if great personalities are cursed what to think of us ordinary souls? Pariksit Maharaja was cursed by a brahman boy and he could have counteracted that curse but he saw it as a blessing from Providence. Without that curse, perhaps we were not going to be blessed with the Srimad Bhagavatam. It would be interesting to see the planetary configuration of that date. <<There are many possibilities, but you can get the idea if you think of what Rahu represents, and see that Jupiter represents the exact opposite things. The trick is, to get them to work together: logic, science, and analysis (Rahu); joining with Satvva guna, guru traditions, and intuition (Jupiter). This combination is thus good for astrologers, provided other reinforcing factors exist in the chart. They will work together, if there is a Chaya Graha Raja-yoga in this chart, namely: Jupiter ruling a kendra, and joining Rahu in a trikona; Jupiter ruling a trikona, and joining Rahu in a kendra. But basically, Guru-chandala yoga represents a departure from the traditions of guru-varga, and thus one is on his own to figure things out, if Rahu is stronger than Jupiter. If Jupiter is stronger than Rahu, then the person will be guided correctly and come to the correct understanding in time.>> In my understanding of life "come to the correct understanding in time" is a great achievement. Jupiter is Guru and by his grace we achieve His grace. During the payment of a curse we suffer & we go "blind"or in "illusion". Then comes the final confrontation, the last test in life. That test comes in different shapes according to our conditionments, habits & culture. Hell & Heaven are a duality that is in the sub-concious of many people, that is way we said "we went to hell & back" Sometimes we feel to be the best & sometimes we feel to be the worst, sometimes we feel in heaven & sometimes we feel in hell, sometimes we feel pure & sometimes we feel inpure. Like you say Rahu & Jupiter represent a duality and for some reason or another our gunas pull us to either one of them. Soon we are going to see a Guru-Chandala yoga in the sky, when the forces of heaven & hell are going to be confronted. When many illusions are going to dissapear. And it is interesting to see the celebration of Kumbha Mela happening. When the asuras stole the kumbha with the precious elixir, the elixir falling & blessing 4 places? The asuras certainly want to take the elixir from the devas, they always do, it is in their nature, they cannot help it. They will do anything to get the elixir, they are not stupid. In my opinion, if they get it, they will not understand it because it is to high for them to crack the code. It is a kind of FM, frequence modulated, only those with a proper decoder (high intuition) can listen & understand the message. When the astrologer developes his/her intuition and by the grace of guru, a high intuition can be developed as well. By guru & mean Guru. Everyone is destined to meet Guru either today or tomorrow. Initiation is just a formality, in eternity we all are linked to Guru, because that is the process in-built in our belief system, our 9th house, the house of dharma, guru. Guru is always guiding even when we go down. We all get a guru according to our understanding of eternity, divinity & bliss, sat, cit, ananda. With those FM facilities mentioned before we can go even further to appreciate sat cit ananda vigraha, that Truth that can give us the raya vidya, the king of knowledge. The copyright of Raya vidya is with the Lord and he can deliver it to those in devotion. Just like we as vedic astrologers are learning the knowledge coming down from Parasara, & by Parasara's mercy, raya vidya comes down from the Lord to those that He wants them to have it. He does not tolerate copyright infringement. I always try to encourage my students to develope their intuition, some do & some do not. What to do? <<They have this realization, as a result of tapasya (penance and austerity) performed over countless previous births. Thus Ketu opens the doors of Moksha, which one can walk through only when the mundane karmas have been relinquished. Rahu received the nectar, and thus continues on a path toward material involvement or the hopes of achieving success on some ego-centered ways. Ketu, is the dead body of Rahu, discarded after he was beheaded. Thus, for those coming under solar or Jupiterian conjunctions of Ketu, the last remnants of karma are burned up in the fire of ordeal, and thus they become fit to ascend to a higher dimension in the next lifetimes. Anyway, this was clearly the case with Prabhupada, and you can easily see it if you use the Sg lagna for his chart.>> Robert, you was inspired when you wrote that. Saktyaaves avatar yoga? Could we call it like that? Dandavats Natabara Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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