An interesting case of Mrtyu Bhaga intertwined with the Parallax dilemma

[Guest guest]

Om Krishnaaya Namah

 

Hi everybody,

 

With discussion going on about parallax and Mrtyu Bhaga, I thought the chart of

Marilyn Monroe would be interesting to look at:

 

Based on the data of

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01/06/1926, at 09:30:00

PST

Vedic Astrology Weekday (Sunrise to Sunrise): Tuesday

Calendar Weekday: Tuesday

Lahiri: 22:49:28

Los Angeles CA USA

118 W 14 34 N 3

Standard Time Hours from Greenwich: 8.00

 

 

Planet Ret Sign (Rasi) Degrees Nakshatras

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Ascendant Cancer 20° 15' Ashlesha

Sun Taurus 17° 37' Rohini

Moon Capricorn 25° 20' Dhanistha

Mars Aquarius 27° 54' Purvabhadrapa

Mercury Taurus 13° 57' Rohini

Jupiter Aquarius 4° 0' Dhanistha

Venus Aries 5° 55' Ashwini

Saturn R Libra 28° 37' Visakha

Rahu Gemini 25° 26' Punarvasu

Ketu Sagittarius 25° 26' Purvashadha

 

 

 

North Indian Style Rasi Chart for Marilyn Monroe

 

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** * * **

* * * * * *

* * * * RAH * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * LEO* LAG * GEM* *

* VIR** **TAU SUN *

* * * * * MER *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * CAN * * *

* * * * * *

* LIB * ARI *

* * * * * *

* * * CAP * VEN * *

* * SAT * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * MOO * * *

* SCO** **PIS *

* * SAG* * AQU* *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * KET * * JUP * *

* * * * MAR * *

** * * **

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If we apply parallax correction as above, then her Lagna Lord Moon, happens to

fall in Mrtyu Bhaga, in the Maraka seventh. If however we use the geocentric

positions, it stays outside MB. Taking Robert's statement "I have found MB

planets strong in the charts of persons dying due to unnatural or unusual

causes", one might not find it surprising to find the Lagna Lord in MB in the

chart of one who died at 36 under weird circumstances. Not only this, but in the

Navamsha, the Moon is in the eighth. One might not then consider it so strange

to have Jupiter Moon as the Dasa-antardasa of death instead of Jupiter Mars.

 

We also see Saturn's transit over this MB Moon. While it wasn't in exact (it

wasn't exact in the well known case of JFK Jr. either) conjunction with the

Moon, on the day of death Shani Deva was in fact transitting right through his

own Mrtyu Bhaga spot in Capricorn. Weird or Weird?!

 

Blaspheming the traditionally well accepted Jupiter Mars ideas, I know. But it

was just something I thought which might be interesting.

 

Welcome any comments and constructive criticism,

 

Pursottam

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Pursottam wrote:

> Om Krishnaaya Namah

>

> Hi everybody,

>

> With discussion going on about parallax and Mrtyu Bhaga, I thought the chart

> of Marilyn Monroe would be interesting to look at:

>

> If we apply parallax correction as above, then her Lagna Lord Moon, happens

> to fall in Mrtyu Bhaga, in the Maraka seventh. ...

>

> We also see Saturn's transit over this MB Moon. While it wasn't in exact (it

> wasn't exact in the well known case of JFK Jr. either) conjunction with the

> Moon, on the day of death Shani Deva was in fact transitting right through

> his own Mrtyu Bhaga spot in Capricorn. Weird or Weird?!

>

> Blaspheming the traditionally well accepted Jupiter Mars ideas, I know. But

> it was just something I thought which might be interesting.

 

The MB degrees are finishing poins, NOT starting. So 25 deg and 14 deg mean

between 24 and 25; between 13 and 14. Lahiri shows 26 and 15 for the above

cases. Fagan shows almost exactly 24:30 and 13:30 (parallaxed moon)!

 

For JFK also the fagan moon is closer to MB in natal chart, but there are no

outstanding MB contacts for 22 november1963 -maybe some deeper contact.

 

regards

Mani

[Guest guest]

Om Krishnaaya Namah

 

Hi Mani,

 

>

> The MB degrees are finishing poins, NOT starting. So 25 deg and 14 deg

mean

> between 24 and 25; between 13 and 14. Lahiri shows 26 and 15 for the

above

> cases. Fagan shows almost exactly 24:30 and 13:30 (parallaxed moon)!

>

 

Where's this from? I've never heard that before. As far as I know (I haven't

yet got JP, although I ordered it last week), the MB points are certain

exact spots in the zodiac, similar to the concept of fixed stars. What is

debatable is the orb allowed for conjunctions to these points, not which

side of the point it is on. From his research, Dr. Charak says that as long

as the planet is within the orb on either side of the MB point, it may be

taken as being in MB. If there are however other opinions on the matter,

either classical or the result of contemporary research, I'd love to hear

them.

 

Thanks,

 

Pursottam

[Guest guest]

Pursottam wrote:

> >

>

> Where's this from? I've never heard that before. As far as I know (I haven't

> yet got JP, although I ordered it last week), the MB points are certain

> exact spots in the zodiac, similar to the concept of fixed stars. What is

> debatable is the orb allowed for conjunctions to these points, not which

> side of the point it is on. From his research, Dr. Charak says that as long

> as the planet is within the orb on either side of the MB point, it may be

> taken as being in MB. If there are however other opinions on the matter,

> either classical or the result of contemporary research, I'd love to hear

> them.

 

Sorry, I should have added IMHO! I based my idea on Jain´s book on the degrees

of the zodiac, as well as Alan Leo´s: both speak of the 1st....30th degree to

give the qualities. I took it that MB was similar. If the exact degree is meant,

I stand - or sit - corrected!

 

But please do answer my other letter!

regards

Mani