Ketu Conjunctions with planets

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Hello everyone,

 

Robert mentioned that Ketu was conjunct my Saturn which perfectly trines

my Venus when I spoke on the list about lonliness a little while back.

 

That was a very heavy time for me. I had severe depression then. I noted

this transit at that time, and right after Ketu moved past my Saturn, I

was able to begin working again, something which I had not done really

for a year prior. It was a big problem for me. I had not programmed at

all for all of the year 2000. It was a big big problem. When Ketu hit

the Saturn, I experienced the greatest despair I had felt in my 40 year

life. But once it got beyond, I was able to get back on track, but not

without taking anti-depressents.

 

I have Ketu conjunct the Moon but widely thank God. I think Ketu causes

what you could correctly call:

 

chilling- a lack, coldness

knarly- awareness in a drastic way

macabre- death, anihilation thoughts

spirituality- I am not this material entity

black hole- lack, gone, dead

 

Lord Caitanya had Moon exactly conjunct Ketu (he was born on an

eclipse). His sensitivity and extremeness in personality was limitless.

 

I know a person who is currently a Gaudiya Vaisnava Sannyasi. He is

currently enjoying extremely quickly spreading fame as a great spiritual

leader though only 31 years old. He is an extremely successful leader at

an early age due to extreme devotion. He has Jupiter exactly conjunct

Ketu in Virgo in the fifth and is in Jupiter dasha. The extreme-ness

that the Ketu gives his Jupiter is greatly the cause of his rise.

 

I know a person who like Wendy mentioned, has Mercury exactly conjunct

Ketu in the 10th and this person is also extreme in his thinking in what

appears to be "weirdness" to most people, rendering the person to nearly

be a homeless loser basically.

 

The upside of Ketu is that by sending us to extremities, makes us aware

in ways which are usually not felt by others. It's an antenna to the

other side. Being "happy" in this life means one must ignore the death

awaiting us. If we are keenly aware of death, lack, privation, being

stripped, etc., we are in a way, ahead of the game, because in fact,

that is what is awaiting us all, death. Ketu is death. Generally we

avoid awareness of death, it being too distasteful to ponder. Those with

Ketu conjunct something in their charts, become aware of death in a big

way. There's a benefit there, spiritually at least, but the price tag in

this life is tremendous and extreme in appearance.

 

In my case again, with Moon in Satabish, a "butcher caste" knarly

nakshatra, lonely, extreme, etc., then the Moon in only aspected by

Saturn, then it's with Ketu, and I'm in Saturn dasha, and the Moon is in

Aquarius, which puts it 8th from it's own sign, so there is death,

death, death, awareness all over this Moon. It's in the 8th in Navamsa,

again in a Saturn ruled sign, and again only aspected by Saturn, if you

count Navamsa aspects.

 

So when Ketu transited it's dispositor in the Rasi, the death/ketu

wavelength preassure was made to be more so extreme, and I nearly

cracked. The thoughts of despair, death, anihilation, deprivation, lack,

were extreme. I nearly folded.

 

So when there are stackings of the same influence in this way, by Rasi,

Navamsa, Dasha and Transit all at once, what Hart DeFouw calls as

"confluence", that is when things happen.

 

Fortunately, I have a protective Jupiter and Venus being as they are in

9 and 1 respectively. Somehow so far in life I always pull through. In

this last case, I pulled through somehow, and have been working on GJ3

again in a big way since thanksgiving making great strides.

 

And, the extreme thoughts of loss, lack, and so on, that I went through

especially in the Summer of 2000 up until late November, were so

extreme, that I broke through to acceptance of things, and am now

enjoying the coolness of detachment. That's the benefit of difficulty,

is that we get detached. Then there's real peace. I'm not saying I've

made it to anything great, but I am saying that I "got over" some things

in some measure or part, as these days, I'm alot cooler and calmer, and

more accepting, of my age, my station in life, what I don't have, etc.,

and consequently, can move on unimpeded by thoughts of lack. Dealing

with loss can lead to detachment in other words.

 

This is why Ketu is sometimes called the Bhikshu Karaka, or significator

of "begging", because beggers have accepted that they have nothing, and

are now acting the role. Beggers in Sanskrit is what Sannyasis are

called, and they are respected in Vedic society due to their detachment

from material things. In the West you could call this spiritual. Ketu

certainly leads in these directions. It kills one's material attachments

and ties and leads to liberation.

 

It's not something you wish on anyone, but it is something we all have

to face sooner or later. Ketu is the final door, which is the truth. The

loathed truth. The avoided truth.

 

In my case, the avoided truth was partly the complexity I had begun to

create in GJ3. The code complexity was tremendous. In early 2000, I

coudln't continue. I thought it was too much. I shriveled and couldn't

face it for all of 2000. But I have to. I have to face it. That's what I

do, that's how I live. So when I broke through, it meant "face it dude".

I finally faced it, and in the last few months, I've gotten back into it

big time, and now I'm riding it again, rather than it riding me. I've

gotten over the hump of object oriented programming's complexities, and

now I'm sailing, and making an awesome application once again, not

afraid of it, not being crumbled by it. I'm on my way. It's getting

done. That was one part of my problem now solved.

 

The other part was "the happy marriage" inigma. Do I want it? Maybe not.

Why I don't have it. Maybe I don't want it. Maybe it's too mundane for

me. Robert pointed out this problem or issue as well. Why the hanging

with unavailable woman? This was another issue I got over. "I'm best off

alone", because I just want to work, and work, and I do so alone. When

you code, programming that is, you don't need anybody really. It's you,

your brain, and your computer. I work alot, and when I'm not working,

I'm thinking about it. So I'm not much to be around. I guess I knew this

deep inside, but we want the touch, but we can't have it both ways. So

I've finally got SOME acceptance of this now, whereas previously, it was

just an ongoing battle in my head "why don't I have this happy

relationship" issue on and on. Saturn, the worker, sits on the

midheaven, exactly ninth from my Venus. Duh! (Blocks the angle of

fortune for my Venus, causese a workaholic syndrome sitting right on the

midheaven). If we put the midheaven into the Navamsa, then you'd see I

have Midheaven, Saturn and Venus, exactly conjunct in the Navamsa in

it's sixth house.

 

"The Moon must set". Emotional comfort is not to be found here

ultimately. This is the song of Ketu. Just when Rahu was about to get

the nectar, Vishnu cut off his head creating Ketu. Ketu knows only too

well, that is just won't happen for us here. This is not our place.

Vishnu is in the way. God is in control in other words. The Moon of

material life must set, and we have to go beyond, to another life, to

start over again.

 

"Turn and face the strange changes". We avoid it, but it's forced on us.

Those with Ketu conjunct sensitive spots ponder these facts of life in

advance and become mentally afflicted thereby, unable to really buy into

the game in the hear and now, but may break through, to truth, and be

able to act in more truth in the hear and now, if they are protected

enough, to not "lose it" under the mental preassure.

 

Just some thoughts on Ketu for your "pleasure".

 

Thanks,

 

Das

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Dear Das

 

I mentioned in an earlier posting about my thoughts on Ketu being badly

malefic in transit over natal planets and in your case this was true, but I

feel the real trouble for you at the moment is the position of transit

Saturn. Saturn is badly afflicting the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th lords and these

houses represent your basic mental outlook, emotions, happiness and work

among other things. The 10th house aspect on the Moon will become more

evident this year when Saturn starts to move forward again but I remember

very clearly when you posted some of your messages, Saturn was exactly on

your natal Sun the 5th lord and ava yogi planet..

 

What I also thought was interesting is that your natal Sun falls at 4

degrees and the Mrityu Bhaga point or "death inflicting station" for Saturn

in Taurus is also 4 degrees. You were going through a period of self

isolation, loneliness, depression amongst other things. I will be interested

to see if you feel it affecting you again as it transits over this point

again this year.

 

I have been doing some research into these points but there is little info

in the books I have other than a chart of the points. If anybody knows more

about these Mrityu Bhaga points I would be interested in hearing their views

on them. In particular what is the source and do they traditionally apply to

stations at birth only, or also transit position. I think you can be a good

test case for this Das as your natal Sun falls at the point in Taurus where

Saturn is said to be very malefic. Already you have experienced severe

problems and you say you now feel better. It will be interesting when Saturn

returns to 4 degrees in a few months.

 

You are also in the dasha of two malefics but Rahu is said to work well in

the nakshatra of the ava yogi planet like in your case. Seshadri Iyer being

a mathematician seemed to apply the rule that two negative influences make a

positive so you can also be a reference for this rule to see if it applies.

Robert Koch has the same set up with Rahu in the nakshatra of ava yogi Sun,

he says Rahu has always been kind to him. Unfortunately the position of

Saturn by transit may muddy this and you may have mixed feelings about where

you are going in this period. I would be interested to hear what your

thoughts on your Rahu are and whether you feel it has been a good influence

or malefic. You did say you have good kids so thats a plus for the Rahu

already.

 

Andrew

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Hello

 

Read www.journalofastrology.com and you find an interesting article by

Meenakshi Raut on use of Mrityu Bhagas along with a table of Mrityubhag

points for each sign.

 

regards,

 

manoj

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I cannot find this article. What is its title??

 

Andrew

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