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Mu'Min Bey wrote:

 

 

is the chart set for

> the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776, at

> 2:13AM, LMT, in Philadelphia, PA, USA.

 

Hi Mu´Min,

 

Alexander Marr, a well known German astrologer arrived at 2:43AM. LMT., based on

primary directions. His article is about 30 pages long, including charts. It may

be worth testing, for his reasoning is pretty good. Of course, this half hour

difference may not affect your study very much - have not read it as yet.

 

regards

Mani

 

Ps:

"Oh Captain! My Captain...."

- Oliver Wendell Holmes, meaning Abraham Lincoln!

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Hey Mu and Mani:

 

This USA chart business is really a hassle and a drag. What about David

Solte's Nov 15 1777 12.46 pm? (so called "Scorpionic America") -- also well

respected and supported by pages and pages of excellent analysis. Is it

correct? Who knows!? The amazing thing is that perfectly intelligent and

experienced astrologers can put their heart and soul into arguing for this

or that chart and come up with totally different dates. For this reason,

we have to be very careful about casually accepting any of them. It's too

easy to get a string of false positives with key historical events. The

best thing we could do is assemble a team to determine *beforehand* the

acceptable configurations for the JFK assassination, Pearl Harbour, the

Civil War, etc, etc.

 

Until then, I think reference to any USA chart is best avoided. Any

analysis of political events in the USA is better served by using

unquestionable fixed dates (inauguration, new moons, etc). Whenever I see

reference to such-and-such a hit in "the" USA chart, I immediately discount

everything I've just read. It's totally unreliable and therefore,

unpersuasive. Fortunately in your analysis Mu, you've mentioned some other

charts like Bush's, and the 01/20/01 chart.

 

Don't mind me, I just have a low tolerance for fuzzyiness.

 

Chris

 

PS Mu, I'll offer more substantive comments on your article shortly.

 

At 12:07 PM 1/18/01 +0100, you wrote:

>Mu'Min Bey wrote:

>

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> is the chart set for

>> the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776, at

>> 2:13AM, LMT, in Philadelphia, PA, USA.

>

>Hi Mu´Min,

>

>Alexander Marr, a well known German astrologer arrived at 2:43AM. LMT.,

based on

>primary directions. His article is about 30 pages long, including charts.

It may

>be worth testing, for his reasoning is pretty good. Of course, this half

hour

>difference may not affect your study very much - have not read it as yet.

>

>regards

>Mani

>

>Ps:

>"Oh Captain! My Captain...."

> - Oliver Wendell Holmes, meaning Abraham Lincoln!

>

>

>

>gjlist-

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