Guru Chandala Yoga/ list and lister

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Dear Wendy,

 

I don't think it's our responsibility where the planets fall in our chart- but

it is what we make, or to me more precise, try to make, out of our natal

potentials- the intention is equally important, if not more, than the result

itself.

 

I am really surprised and saddened by your angry reaction- you seem to be a nice

person and astrologer.. If you are so sensitive, (hostile?), when you hear

something not so sweet about your chart (don't we all have that?-more or

less??), and interpret it as meanness, rather than an exchange of thoughts and

knowledge, any conversation would turn out to be a battle- and that excludes

free exchange of thoughts, open-mind-ness, etc.. let alone the fact that most

listers are not here to deal with such, and any, personal animosity. Whether one

will feel "attacked" or "seriously wounded" by any interpretation, in MHO,

that's something that the person feeling attacked needs to deal with, herself,

not to "externalize" the internal problem, withdraw, attack.

 

By the way, since Robert didn't send his message to the List, but to you,

personally, following the elementary etiquette, you should have answered to him

personally, to resolve any problem, to attack, whatever... Unsolicited reading

of any lister's chart, on the list , hostile in tone (or even if not), doesn't

seem as an ethical practice..

 

Sorry Wendy that I wasn't able to find more "diplomatic" words, but you

presented yourself that way, that I felt compelled to write- this is directed

more to the issue of listers' etiquette and appropriate way of

conflict-resolution, than to anybody in particular, including you, Wendy.

 

Best regards,

 

Anna

 

 

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Wendy Vasicek

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Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:38 AM

RE: [gjlist] Guru Chandala Yoga

 

 

Manoj and all,

 

As an explanation of the icy undercurrents going on here between myself and

Robert, I will just say one thing before I withdraw from the list and leave

you all in peace for awhile. The fact is that my horoscope is pretty much in

the public domain and Robert knows this.

 

As a matter of fact, shortly before Robert posted his comments on Guru

Chandala Yoga, he had sent me a private mail commenting on my horoscope (in

particular the current dasa periods). He knows full well that I have JU/RA

in 7th house.

 

His extremely negative description, void of any of the positive attributes,

was mean and deliberate...of course that's going to trigger a reaction from

me! as he well-knew it would.

 

Lesson well learned though...I'll not rise to the bait again!

 

Robert has 2/7 L mars in 9th; I have 9th lord Mercury in the 9th...there

seems to be an awful lot of hostility (conflict) between us in the area of

religion (natural law, etc)...it's very sad, as we're both engaged in

religious works. However I'm withdrawing from the battle...I am a Woman

after all and don't have the warrior attributes of Mars in the 9th...so

before I'm mortally wounded, I withdraw from the battle field.

 

By the way Ajit Saturn is not aspecting Moon in Ghandi's chart (Rasi drishti

perhaps).

 

Wendy

 

 

Manoj Pathak [manojpathak]

Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:50 PM

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RE: [gjlist] Guru Chandala Yoga

 

 

Dear Wendy and Robert,

 

Moon with Rahu, as you said, are present in the 10th house of Mahatma

Gandhi, but it did not effect his mind, but did you notice the obsession it

caused in him. Did you notice, the unorthodoxy in his actions, the

convictions he had and the determination with which he executed his thoughts

and his actions.

 

Rahu is popularly known as Chandala. Now Chandala is a person who not only

is out-caste but if we take the caste system, as prevalent in India, he is

the person, who would be on the lowest rung of the ladder. In my view, in

today's society, Rahu represents the unorthodoxy in a person. The strength

to break the conventions (parampara) comes from Rahu. Therefore a strict

idealist, Jupiter conjoining with a first rate Chandala, Rahu was considered

as Guru-Chandala yoga and is not a good yoga to have in the chart. This is

the negative side. But who would have the strength to break the conventions.

Only that person, who has deep sense of conviction for the way he thinks and

acts. Therefore, does it not mean, that this would also enhance a person's

analytical abilities.

 

And moreover, for me, nothing is negative, even the negative would have

positive hidden somewhere within and what looks positive on surface could

conceit lot of negativities.

 

with best regards,

 

Manoj

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