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gjlist , subra@t... wrote:

>>Actually clairvoyance, telepathy, telekinesis etc. are "circus

>>tricks"! Some acquire these "siddhis" or talents by practice of

>>yoga etc., but many are just born with them, people who do not even

>>understand these things! They can have a low IQ level, be

>>"ignorant" and even "stupid". It is a mechanical "defect" in the

>>brain, that connects the person with the Akasha Chronicle

>>"unintentionally", whereas "normal" brains have to learn to

>>establish this contact! were the traditional "seers" divinely

>>inspired or "blindly" receptive? Certainly some would have

>>belonged to the latter category.

 

Hi,

 

I disagree with you in that clairvoyance etc just tricks. I believe

them and i´ve personal experiences. "Siddhis" are natural talents of

the man, but the man has forgotten them. Correct meditation can

cultivate these talents, which are not anykind of supernatural,

people just thinks them "supernatural"; and of course, in this

western materialistic point of view/cosmology these are something

strange, but that´s because it is so new topic. Is great that modern

science, physics and medicine, are taken big steps in searching human

consciousness.

 

When i was younger i practised some yoga, but my main "sport" was

japanese aikido (Ueshiba´s aikikai). Nowadays physical activities are

changed to more mental. As far as i can remember to my childhood,

i´ve always been very spiritualized being. I´ve always been

interested in religions and philosophies etc, just like as i already

"knew" them. Later on i get to Transcendental Meditation, because i

feel it´s just the best meditation method ever seen - of course there

are many ways to enlightment; I´m not depending TM or any other

methods/ways - i am just going my walk...

 

Regards,

 

Mark

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Mark wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I disagree with you in that clairvoyance etc just tricks. I believe

> them and i´ve personal experiences. "Siddhis" are natural talents of

> the man, but the man has forgotten them.

 

I did not say siddhis were "false tricks", but special faculties like that of a

rope-walker. Genuine, but not directly connected with or necessary for spiritual

advancement, more by-products of the discipline gained by meditation - or as

in-born talents. The Raja Yoga of Patanjali requires one to surrender all

siddhis and ask only for nearness to God!... or never bother to learn the

siddhis, but meditate only on the nearness.

 

regards

Mani

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gjlist , subra@t... wrote:

>>in-born talents. The Raja Yoga of Patanjali requires one to

>>surrender all siddhis and ask only for nearness to God!... or never

>>bother to learn the siddhis, but meditate only on the nearness.

>>regards Mani

 

Hi Mani,

 

That´s right. The siddhis are not the purpose, but enlightment.

Patanjali took wrong in that man must have first yama, niyama and so

on - and at last dharana, dhyana and the samadhi. No, samadhi must be

first. That is transcendental meditation. Through many samadhi-

experiences man can attain enlightment. Siddhis are just products.

 

Regards,

 

Mark

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