Don't sweat it!

[Guest guest]

Dear Dale,

Raising a controversial topic 'onlist' is something akin to

being thrown into a pit of rattlers...ha ha.

I am not about to bite you, as I have often thought about these

idiosyncracies or Great Mysteries, in the course of my work. It would be

nice to have definitive 'answers', but one size does not fit all, and I am

still fumbling with the 'evidence' of my personal observations.

Lately I have been reading Rudolf Steiner, a student of Goethe, and

discussing his philosophies with interested parties. Here is a quote that

further confused me..."Steiner definitly favoured decimal homeopathy as he

favoured the freedom of the individual. The choices are c:centicimal and

m:milenial. I know that the "m" range are for very competant homeopaths

only. I think this may relate to the etheric, astral, ego. Ego where the

therapist takes responsibility for the remedy".

...eeecckkk!! Way out of my league, I'll leave that to the Masters!.

When my brain starts to drain over these matters, I remind myself that

the Lord moves in mysterious ways, wonders to perform...

Warm Regards,

Ann.

[Guest guest]

Dear Ann,

 

I appreciate your thoughts, and have no intention of trying to explain my

thoughts on this topic. I like to remain a a low-key member of the list. You are

most welcomed to your thoughts and reasons.

 

I only wish to remind you that most of us have started to learn Astrology so

that we can understand our future. Once the events of future do not match with

the Astrology, then there is no need to study Astrology. I have seen people fall

into traps and circumstances to attract certain events in their lives. I am not

a bit interested in philosophy, therefore I will prefer not to continue on with

this discussion.

 

I have no idea, if you ever studied the charts of these so called sex offenders.

Whether the charts showed any change or not. Unless these are checked and

analyzed, there is no need to discuss this any further. There are children born

with certain handicaps, diformities in the limbs, Paralysis and other serious

ailments, and many of these can be classified as FIXED type of diseases, which

can not be corrected. We may find ways to solutions to help in this, but the

condition remains.

 

Then there are other type of afflictions like alcoholism, drugs and sex

offences, and in majority of cases these can be classified as changeable, BUT

THE ASTROLOGICAL CHART WILL SHOW WHEN THE CHANGE will take place.

 

Please re-read my original email, which clearly indicates that there are two

types of afflictions, and of these one type of afflictions can be changed. For

the other type, we are to learn to live with them. We can not change these as

they are related to past KARMA.

 

As for a controversial topic, I am not interested in any kind of arguments, but

am willing to discuss anything with learned people.

 

Please analyze the charts of these sex offenders (before the offences and after

the remedieal measures) and see if the changes are indicated in their charts.

Then we will be in a better situation to discuss this matter.

 

Best wishes,

 

Dale

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ann Murphy wrote:

>

> Lately I have been reading Rudolf Steiner, a student of Goethe, and

> discussing his philosophies with interested parties. Here is a quote that

> further confused me..."Steiner definitly favoured decimal homeopathy as he

> favoured the freedom of the individual. The choices are c:centicimal and

> m:milenial. I know that the "m" range are for very competant homeopaths

> only. I think this may relate to the etheric, astral, ego. Ego where the

> therapist takes responsibility for the remedy".

> ...eeecckkk!! Way out of my league, I'll leave that to the Masters!.

> When my brain starts to drain over these matters, I remind myself that

> the Lord moves in mysterious ways, wonders to perform...

 

 

Dear Ann,

 

R. Steiner had a talent for expressing himself in a manner that was extremely

tough to understand. I don´t think most people who heard his lectures ever

understood him, but luckily they were printed and could be chewed at

leisure (like cud, over and over again) until meaning came through!

 

Unfortunately Anthroposophists often imitate him, one often wonders if they

themselves understand what they say. I (we) say they are "verSteinert" =

petrified. Not only God, but Anthropologists also move in mysterious ways.......

 

It is easier to follow Steiner if one remembers that he was essentially a

Theosophist who centred the philosophy around The Holy Trinity, with Christ at

the centre as the "approachable God", laying emphasis on the individuality of

each human being and its direct communication with Christ. Very much like what

Sri Aurobindo taught. Both at the same time also emphasized the "mystery" aspect

of this communication. This was because both taught during the years of

increasing materialism and the tendency to find "scientific" explanations for

all miracles or denying them.

 

Hope this helps in future talks. As astrologer I think he went only by aspects

and houses rather than signs, and was a tropicalist. Not sure.

 

regards

Mani

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/11/2000 10:55:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

evie writes:

 

<< "Steiner definitly favoured decimal homeopathy as he

favoured the freedom of the individual. The choices are c:centicimal and

m:milenial. I know that the "m" range are for very competant homeopaths

only. I think this may relate to the etheric, astral, ego. Ego where the

therapist takes responsibility for the remedy". >>

Dear Ann,

Today a lot of legal jargon has been rewritten so that it is

understandable by human beings duly educated, but it looks as if the above

words were not translated for general reading.

The paragraph quoted above could indicate:

1) the writer did not understand the Steiner material very well, or

2) lacked ability to clearly describe it for his audience, or

3) Steiner categorizes individuals using an abstract decimal system mixed up

with a binary label (either "c" or 'm"), or

4) not only Steiner, but the writer is uninterested in his readers'

comprehension of his ideas, or

5) the above quotation is too short to bring out major ideas.

 

Personally, my impression is that all of the above apply! ("Don't sweat it"

is a good idea.)

 

Best wishes,

Carol Hook

[Guest guest]

Hi!

 

To those who may concern themselves with medical astrology

etc.:

 

Carolhook wrote:

.......

>

> << "Steiner definitly favoured decimal homeopathy as he

> favoured the freedom of the individual. The choices are c:centicimal and

> m:milenial. I know that the "m" range are for very competant homeopaths

> only. I think this may relate to the etheric, astral, ego. Ego where the

> therapist takes responsibility for the remedy". >>

 

 

> 1) the writer did not understand the Steiner material very well, or

> 2) lacked ability to clearly describe it for his audience, or

> 3) Steiner categorizes individuals using an abstract decimal system mixed up

> with a binary label (either "c" or 'm"), or

> 4) not only Steiner, but the writer is uninterested in his readers'

> comprehension of his ideas, or

> 5) the above quotation is too short to bring out major ideas.

>

> Personally, my impression is that all of the above apply! ("Don't sweat it"

> is a good idea.)

 

 

Carol is right in all points, except that Steiner was certainly interested in

his readers´and listeners´comprehension, but was poor at expressing his

thoughts.

 

As to the above qutation, the person quoting did not understand Steiner - or

homoeopathy. Nor the fact that Steiner´s anthroposophical medical system is

akin to homoeopathy, NOT identical!

 

Natural medicine is to give a patient something available in nature to help

the patient´s body (including brain!) to fight against a poison, or as support

to increase its resistance, or supplement/provide what it lacks. Ayurveda

started converting and synthesizingh, as well as extracting from natural

substances, to create medicines, allopathy has gone the whole hog. In all these

methods a certain meauraby appreciable quantity of the medicine is given.

 

Homoeopathy works differently: it is essentially only a "message", uses

essentially poisonous substances. A poison is chosen, which if taken by a

healthy person produces the same or similar symptoms as the patient has. Say a

person has itchy patches on the skin like one gets by rubbing against nestle. A

minute quantity of this poison - an extract of nestle leaves - is given to the

patient to say to the body: You are getting nestle, fight against it! In doing

so the body gets rid of whatever had been the actual cause.

 

This minute quantity, being a message, depends on a "vibration" principle and

has to be made according to rules developed by Hannemann. The dilution is made

by mixing the original poison in a liquid or solid solvent (powder) in the

proportion original to Mixture = 1:10 (Decimal); OR 1:100 (Centesimal); OR

1:50000 (LM). and shaken in a particular manner a certain number of times.The

mixture is again and again diluted in the same way. 1000 c.c of D3 has only 1

c.c. of the original, D6 has only a millionth part, D25 less than 1 molecule

of the original. In a lab D 30 will be proved to be free of all traces of the

original, chemically. The same happens to C 15 or LM 8.

 

The usual practice is to use the lower dilutions till D3 or so for acute

conditions, D6 for less acute etc. For chronic things D30 is preferred. For a

fundamental change of constitution D200. Others do the same, usung the C or LM

dilutions. The idea seems to be that the low dilutions speak to the body

directly, the next higher to the sub-conscious to work on the body and the

highest to the psyche.

 

Why Steiner should attach individuality to the D dilutions is a mystery,

probably a misunderstanding. Did he?......

 

Homoeopathy is "provocative". But a homoeopath also uses strengthening medicines

in the usual way, in appreciable quantities, NOT diluted as above.

 

Steiner, however, used the latter, ALSO diluted as above. If a child does not

show proportional growth, Tobacco D6 is given, for the tobacco plant has

"harmonious" proportions (in steiner´s view): telling the body to grow

harmoniously! This is exaggerated to the extent that even such substances like

calcium, much required by a pregnant woman, is given in this minute quantity, as

happened to my wife. The child showed acute calcium deficiency!!!

 

Actually none of three dilutions is correct. I have found the right method, but

cannot get anyone to put it into practice, for the medical laws stand in the

way. I WOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR ADDRESSES OF WELL_KNOWN HOMOEOPATHS WITH WHOM I

COULD CORRESPOND RE. MY METHOD! At present H. cures take so long one wonders if

the patient will live long enough to be cured! But my way will speed it up

enormously.

 

MEDICAL ASTROLOGY: If one finds out which substances used in homoeopathy are

ruled by which planet, it will be a great step forward!

 

Hope this helps Ann and others.

 

regards

Mani