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Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

 

Namaste to Mani and all the other list members!

 

i have a couple more questions for those who are in the know (another

kindergarten question in other words).

 

1. i am wondering just what the influence of Rahu and Ketu are when

considering compatibility vs. combatibility....i have heard some

interesting information from Prasannan Herke, who is a Jyotishi

travelling with Amma in reference to one particular case at

least...myself and a friend, who kept (and still can) seeming to

trigger one another into resentment and anger...

This lady has Ketu at 3 degrees 14 minutes/ Chitra in Libra in the

11th, in Her rashi chart and also Ketu in Navamsha Libra in the

seventh.

i on the other hand have Venus at 0 degrees 58 minutes/ Chitra in

Libra in the 10th in my rashi chart and in the navamsha both jupiter

and venus were cavorting about in Libra, which is now the 6th...When

Prasannan saw the Venus-Ketu connection, he pointed it out quite

clearly and he said that he would not ordinarily ever recommend that

these two people should pursue a relationship...and that it appeared

to him that in previous life we had been related, but that my friend

had all the power,(as i recall he suggested that my friend may have

been something like my Granny or so) and i (probly) resented it

.....and any current appearances of "power-tripping"...a kind of carry

through between lives....and thus i understood that we still have

some

karmic debts to work through...only it is SO difficult to hang out

with her very much at all...and when i did a comparison myself of the

4 cornerstones, i immediately could see the problems (at least now):

 

m's Lagna is 2/12 to v's Lagna...secret enemies

m's Moon is 8/6 to v's Moon...active enemies 3 out of 4 not good

m's Sun is 9/5 to vi's Sun...active friends

m's Venus is 8/6 to v's venus...active enemies

 

then we get the wider correspondences....

m's Lagna 2/12 to v's Moon

m's Lagna 12/2 to v'a Sun

m's Lagna 11/3 to v's Venus 5 out of 6 not good

m's Moon 6/8 to v's Sun

m's Moon 6/8 to v's Venus

m's Sun 8/6 to v's Venus

and when you go from the other side (v's) to see if they are mutual

you get

 

v's Lagna 6/8 to m's Moon--mutually negative

v's Lagna 3/11 to m's Sun

v's Lagna 3/11 to m's Venus --mutually weakly positive

v's Moon 3/1ll to m's Sun

v's Moon 3/11 to m's Venus 5 out of six weakly good.

v's sun 5/9 with m's Venus

 

as we can see, there are far more challenging combinations than

friendly ones...and even the friendly ones are weaker, as i

understand

it...When examining the Navamshas for the same purpose, one finds

even

more challenging combinations and fewer friendly ones...

 

so it is easy to see why this relationship with my friend has the

constant undertone of conflict, and power issues (even if only

"perceived" as power issues)...and thus i could understand that our

very energy fields might just clash a little bit, like two strings on

a violin playing slightly out of tune...

 

However the Rahu Ketu influence has me very interested...and to

pursue

that one further, whereas m's Ketu in Libra in both Rashi and Navamsha

is conjunct my Venus in rashi Libra and Jupiter and Venus in the

Navamsha Libra.....Also, my Navamsha Rahu/Ketu axis goes thru

Capricorn and Cancer, with Rahu in Capricorn and Ketu in Cancer...As

for my friend her Navamsha Sun and Venus sit in Capricorn.

 

In the rashi chart, m's Sani is conjunct with my Ketu in Magha in

Leo in my eighth and her 9th.

 

So as i understand it, Rahu and Ketu can not only indicate sudden

changes fortunate or not (Mostly not), and ketu indicates a force

towards Moksha as i understand...also things from the past...but does

any one see what prasannan did in this comparison? and does Sani play

a role in this little melodrama???, eg her Sani in my 8th Leo with my

Ketu???? i could easily spring for the idea of being "related" some

how in the past, but the other stuff i didn't quite get...at least

how

he got there from the charts...or do you need to see the entire

charts

to see this as it is such a holistic thing...or what?

 

the other question has to do with groupings of four or more planets

in

a single bhava....several of my friends have come to me with such

arrangements and i am a little confused as to how one might combine

the influences of all these grahas in the one bhava...especially when

the Sun and Sani are involved.....

 

examples: 1. One friend has a chart in which the 4th Bhava, Pisces,

is

occupied by 4 Grahas:

Sun at 23deg 2 min in Revati (ruled by Mercury)

Venus at 20 deg 18 min in Revati

Mars at 18 deg 40 min Revati

Mercury at 15 deg 42 min Uttara bhadrapada.

 

2. another has a similar lineup in her Fourth Bhava but in her case

it

goes like this

 

Moon 1 deg 33 min Purvabhadrapada in Pisces in the 5th

////

Mercury 27 deg 37 min Purvabhadrapada in Aquarius

Sun 20 deg 13 min Purv. in Aquarius

Sani 14 deg 57 min Satabisha in Aquarius

Venus 10deg 26 min Satabisha in Aquarius

 

Several of these planets are combust due to being so close to the

Sun.....but just how will that affect their influence on the person's

life?

Also is it not so, that when there are so many planets in one Bhava

that it constitutes almost a Lagna, due to the importance of that

Bhava in the native's life? Of course in these two cases, there would

already be a Sun Lagna anyways, but i am wondering anyways,

especially

if if were a combination not including either Lagna Sun or Moon....

is this a correct way of understanding?...and how would you decide

who

is the most powerful influence on the bhava of the four grahas, does

it have to do with position, or other factors, perhaps again it might

be that the Atma karaka if involved in the conjunction is the most

powerful....and what if the Atma Karaka is itself combust??

Another one...what if a person's Lagna Bhava also contains Rahu

or

Ketu???especially Ketu?...say in Scorpio...how might that translate

into life as we live it? my intuition tells me, that the person may

tend to act on a whim, regretted later often as not, with sudden

changes of mood, not to say friends and residences... and that they

may well have a very changeable disposition...one day friendly the

next remote...and with feelings of confusion to go with it...does

that

sound like a Ketu afflicted Lagna? Or am i missing a lot again?

 

i hope you don't mind all these kindergarten questions, but they

are pretty knotty to me!...

 

thanking you all so much for the patience to read thru this

if you got this far!!!Any help would be very much appreciated.

 

In our Mother's

Divine Love

and in Her Service

i salute you

most humbly,

bowing again

and again,

taking

the sacred dust

from your

Lotus Feet!!!

 

and i am

as ever

your Own Self

 

visvanathan

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Namaste,

 

Prasannam Herke is doing excellent work in astrology. Listen carefully to

him and you would have your answers.

 

regards,

 

Manoj

 

 

>kasi_visvanath

>gjlist

>gjlist

>[gjlist] conjunction combustion and.......

>Fri, 24 Nov 2000 05:34:57 -0000

>

>Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

>

>Namaste to Mani and all the other list members!

>

>i have a couple more questions for those who are in the know (another

>kindergarten question in other words).

>

>1. i am wondering just what the influence of Rahu and Ketu are when

>considering compatibility vs. combatibility....i have heard some

>interesting information from Prasannan Herke, who is a Jyotishi

>travelling with Amma in reference to one particular case at

>least...myself and a friend, who kept (and still can) seeming to

>trigger one another into resentment and anger...

> This lady has Ketu at 3 degrees 14 minutes/ Chitra in Libra in the

>11th, in Her rashi chart and also Ketu in Navamsha Libra in the

>seventh.

> i on the other hand have Venus at 0 degrees 58 minutes/ Chitra in

>Libra in the 10th in my rashi chart and in the navamsha both jupiter

>and venus were cavorting about in Libra, which is now the 6th...When

>Prasannan saw the Venus-Ketu connection, he pointed it out quite

>clearly and he said that he would not ordinarily ever recommend that

>these two people should pursue a relationship...and that it appeared

>to him that in previous life we had been related, but that my friend

>had all the power,(as i recall he suggested that my friend may have

>been something like my Granny or so) and i (probly) resented it

>....and any current appearances of "power-tripping"...a kind of carry

>through between lives....and thus i understood that we still have

>some

>karmic debts to work through...only it is SO difficult to hang out

>with her very much at all...and when i did a comparison myself of the

>4 cornerstones, i immediately could see the problems (at least now):

>

>m's Lagna is 2/12 to v's Lagna...secret enemies

>m's Moon is 8/6 to v's Moon...active enemies 3 out of 4 not good

>m's Sun is 9/5 to vi's Sun...active friends

>m's Venus is 8/6 to v's venus...active enemies

>

>then we get the wider correspondences....

>m's Lagna 2/12 to v's Moon

>m's Lagna 12/2 to v'a Sun

>m's Lagna 11/3 to v's Venus 5 out of 6 not good

>m's Moon 6/8 to v's Sun

>m's Moon 6/8 to v's Venus

>m's Sun 8/6 to v's Venus

>and when you go from the other side (v's) to see if they are mutual

>you get

>

>v's Lagna 6/8 to m's Moon--mutually negative

>v's Lagna 3/11 to m's Sun

>v's Lagna 3/11 to m's Venus --mutually weakly positive

>v's Moon 3/1ll to m's Sun

>v's Moon 3/11 to m's Venus 5 out of six weakly good.

>v's sun 5/9 with m's Venus

>

>as we can see, there are far more challenging combinations than

>friendly ones...and even the friendly ones are weaker, as i

>understand

>it...When examining the Navamshas for the same purpose, one finds

>even

>more challenging combinations and fewer friendly ones...

>

>so it is easy to see why this relationship with my friend has the

>constant undertone of conflict, and power issues (even if only

>"perceived" as power issues)...and thus i could understand that our

>very energy fields might just clash a little bit, like two strings on

>a violin playing slightly out of tune...

>

>However the Rahu Ketu influence has me very interested...and to

>pursue

>that one further, whereas m's Ketu in Libra in both Rashi and Navamsha

>is conjunct my Venus in rashi Libra and Jupiter and Venus in the

>Navamsha Libra.....Also, my Navamsha Rahu/Ketu axis goes thru

>Capricorn and Cancer, with Rahu in Capricorn and Ketu in Cancer...As

>for my friend her Navamsha Sun and Venus sit in Capricorn.

>

>In the rashi chart, m's Sani is conjunct with my Ketu in Magha in

>Leo in my eighth and her 9th.

>

>So as i understand it, Rahu and Ketu can not only indicate sudden

>changes fortunate or not (Mostly not), and ketu indicates a force

>towards Moksha as i understand...also things from the past...but does

>any one see what prasannan did in this comparison? and does Sani play

>a role in this little melodrama???, eg her Sani in my 8th Leo with my

>Ketu???? i could easily spring for the idea of being "related" some

>how in the past, but the other stuff i didn't quite get...at least

>how

>he got there from the charts...or do you need to see the entire

>charts

>to see this as it is such a holistic thing...or what?

>

>the other question has to do with groupings of four or more planets

>in

>a single bhava....several of my friends have come to me with such

>arrangements and i am a little confused as to how one might combine

>the influences of all these grahas in the one bhava...especially when

>the Sun and Sani are involved.....

>

>examples: 1. One friend has a chart in which the 4th Bhava, Pisces,

>is

>occupied by 4 Grahas:

> Sun at 23deg 2 min in Revati (ruled by Mercury)

> Venus at 20 deg 18 min in Revati

> Mars at 18 deg 40 min Revati

> Mercury at 15 deg 42 min Uttara bhadrapada.

>

>2. another has a similar lineup in her Fourth Bhava but in her case

>it

>goes like this

>

> Moon 1 deg 33 min Purvabhadrapada in Pisces in the 5th

> ////

> Mercury 27 deg 37 min Purvabhadrapada in Aquarius

> Sun 20 deg 13 min Purv. in Aquarius

> Sani 14 deg 57 min Satabisha in Aquarius

> Venus 10deg 26 min Satabisha in Aquarius

>

>Several of these planets are combust due to being so close to the

>Sun.....but just how will that affect their influence on the person's

>life?

>Also is it not so, that when there are so many planets in one Bhava

>that it constitutes almost a Lagna, due to the importance of that

>Bhava in the native's life? Of course in these two cases, there would

>already be a Sun Lagna anyways, but i am wondering anyways,

>especially

>if if were a combination not including either Lagna Sun or Moon....

>is this a correct way of understanding?...and how would you decide

>who

>is the most powerful influence on the bhava of the four grahas, does

>it have to do with position, or other factors, perhaps again it might

>be that the Atma karaka if involved in the conjunction is the most

>powerful....and what if the Atma Karaka is itself combust??

> Another one...what if a person's Lagna Bhava also contains Rahu

>or

>Ketu???especially Ketu?...say in Scorpio...how might that translate

>into life as we live it? my intuition tells me, that the person may

>tend to act on a whim, regretted later often as not, with sudden

>changes of mood, not to say friends and residences... and that they

>may well have a very changeable disposition...one day friendly the

>next remote...and with feelings of confusion to go with it...does

>that

>sound like a Ketu afflicted Lagna? Or am i missing a lot again?

>

> i hope you don't mind all these kindergarten questions, but they

>are pretty knotty to me!...

>

> thanking you all so much for the patience to read thru this

> if you got this far!!!Any help would be very much appreciated.

>

> In our Mother's

> Divine Love

> and in Her Service

> i salute you

> most humbly,

> bowing again

> and again,

> taking

> the sacred dust

> from your

> Lotus Feet!!!

>

> and i am

> as ever

> your Own Self

>

> visvanathan

>

>

>

>gjlist-

>

>

>

 

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