Namaste to all those Sani-Guru influenced malingerers

[Guest guest]

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

 

Namaste dear Mani!!!and all the other beloved list members!!

 

i wonder if you are describing some sort of universal experience

this last while...i too have noticed an unusual lack of motivation in

worldly ways,(although Spiritual pursuits seem to be more appealing,

and Jyotish very appealing---of course Sani and Guru are in my

5th--so i've been noticing separation from children among the other

little indications of fun from the 5h with Sani and Guru in it...)

just as mani so wonderfully described...and as i have my natal Sun in

Scorpio in the 11th, and my Venus (the lord of Taurus) in Libra in my

Tenth, i have been noticing the exquisite little lilas of these dear

Grahas for the last couple or three years, especially in reference to

"career" and Dharma (what i should do)...and now with those two

loveable "Gurus" in Taurus, opposite my Sun in the 11th, the finances

are being squeezed, to put it lightly, as Sun is already arguably the

greatest malefic in my chart (capricorn lagna), as well (Guru and)

Sani have never been all that kind to me in the worldly

department...you know how She (Sani) is...(i see Sani as Mother Kali,

Venus as Mother Laksmi, and Guru (Jupiter) as Mother Saraswati...all

embodiments of that Supreme Power, the Adi Para Shakti....and all my

Gurus...

By following one of the "arudha" techniques where you find the lord

of the lagna and then count around the same number of bhavas from that

to find the "arudha lagna", and then from that you can go one back, to

the 12th (if i remember this technique properly), to find your beloved

deity, the one you should be worshipping...When i followed these

instructions (not necessarily as i have narrated), i came up with the

sign of Taurus and its ruler Venus...Thus Venus was to be my Beloved

Deity....Then i compared my natal chart with my Guru's (Sri Mata

Amritanandamayi Devi--my dear Mother Kali!), only to find this amazing

'coincidence': in my rashi chart, Venus sits in Her own sign, Libra,

in the 10th house....an infant at 0 degrees 58 minutes Chitra....When

this is overlayed onto Ammachi's chart, one immediately notices that

Amma's lagna is 23deg 20 min Libra, and Her Sani is 3deg 45 min Chitra

in Libra...a direct conjunction of Amma's Sani with my Shukra...so to

this devotee the meaning seemed quite clear....my beloved Deity,

Venus, is infact the same as Sani or Maha Kali, Who is seen to be none

other than Sri Mata Amritanandamayi Devi...(Amma is seen by many many

of Her close devotees to be an incarnation of that Divine Mother

Kali). So even so precisely can Jyotish be used....to see such

relationships with your spiritual teachers.(Of course i am only in

Jyotish kindergarten so my musings may be like the scribblings of a 5

year old to the real Jyotishis in the crowd.)

Interestingly enough, also, Amma's Rahu is conjunct (within the

5-7degree orb) with my Natal Moon in Uttarashadha in my Lagna Bhava.

Thus Her Ketu would be found in opposition in my 7th ...Whereas my

ketu at 11 deg 48 min Magha is conjunct with Amma's Mars at 14 deg

36min PurvaPhalguni and Her Venus at 10deg 25 min Magha...thus

indicating to this beginner at least, some past life connections

between my Amma and this little child of Hers...

As for the Navamsha it too is interesting to compare...My sun in

Scorpio is conjunct Amma's Sani, my Jupiter and Venus in Libra are

conjunct Amma's Jupiter, my ascendant in Taurus is conjunct Amma's in

Taurus... and again we see the Venus/ Ketu relationship in Cancer,

Where Amma's Venus is conjunct with my Ketu, again indicating past

life connections if i understand the indications rightly.

Amma Herself, the first time i met Her in Seattle told the entire

hall at the beginning of Her satsang in June 2 1995, that everyone

in the hall had been with Her before....

 

Don't know if these musings are of any interest to anyone, but they

might find some interesting correspondences in their own spiritual

lives with Jyotish...Everything seems to be perfectly timed, like a

grand symphony...i wonder how many other devotees would be able to

find such interesting correspondences in their charts....

 

In Our Mother's

Divine Love,

and in Her Holy Service,

i salute

You all

bowing again and again!!!

and taking

the sacred dust

from Your Lotus feet,

i am

remaining as ever

Your Own Self

 

visvanathan

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!!

[Guest guest]

Namaste KV,

 

Can you pl. give me birth data for Amman and if possible also Meera?

 

regards,

Mani

[Guest guest]

Dear KV and others,

 

Interesting, what you say. The "lethargy" and confusion seems to be universal.

The retrogression is across two signs, Aries and taurus. this may mean that

"aggression" is giving way to peace and progress!

 

With Taurus lagna and Venus in my 10th, the Arudha lagna would be Scorpio (?)

and 12th therefrom libra, under venus. instinctively I have always looked upon

"God" as a Mother! Amman and Meera are closer to me than Sri Sai Baba!

 

My first meeting with Amman (Mata Amritanda Mayi) was very interesting,

revealing and exalting! I was in a traffic jam, came too late. The rows of

devotees waiting for the "embrace" were full, ropes had been put up to stop

late.comers. I was politely told that I should return the next day, the quota

was full for the evening. Something compelled me to look towards Amman, just as

I was told this. Amman - across a fully crowded hall - smiled directly at me,

laughed and gestured to me to climb over the ropes!!! The attendants were

surprised, but did not stop me. I got the embrace. I returned the next and last

day, got her blessings. She gestured to me to sit near her on the stage. I

thought she would perhaps talk to me, but she did not. She finally got up,

smiled at me and retired. But after the last blessing ceremony, I waited

outside to bid her farewell when she and her entourage left for the next city.

 

It was late in the night, rather early morning, when she finally came out. She

greeted everyone who was there, stood before me and asked my name. I told her,

grabbed her hand and laid it on my head. Smiling, she said, "So that is what you

call yourself! Keep your courage and faith, all will end well!" She spoke

Malayalam, which I could understand, being very close to Tamil. And in parting,

stroked my cheek! I am sharing this with all of you as it happened, but it had

a deeper significance for me. In this life, I had met my Mother!

 

The other incarnation of Shakthi is different. Meera does not speak to the

public. She only blesses them. Her name consists essentially of the letters M

and R, the sacred letters of Shakthi. .... The Holy virgin was called

Miriam..... and Jesus Isa....... Sai Baba said, "Say Isa thrice and you have

said Sai twice. Say Sai thrice and you have said Isa twice!"

 

I write these words, but without thinking, they just come out of my hand, I have

to re-read what I write to understand what I have written.... to correct, for

the thoughts come quicker than I can type!

 

Namaste

Mani