Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 --- Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote: > Dear Rhoda, > > First I assume that the natives of these two charts > are closely associated > in some way, i.e. in some kind of relationship. I > say this because of the > disposition of the 7th house in both charts. DEAR WENDY!! sorry to say i had a good laugh, when i read about the association presumed by you!! the moon relief person is my mate and the other one is my zoology professor(female) as for what you have written about 7th lord saturn, indicating an older partner!!! ( i am 7months younger to him)but have a serious saturn ® in the lagna!! and maybe that makes me quite mature and level headed!! thanks for the reading...........rhoda > > Native "relief" has Saturn ruling 7th house and in > constellation of Saturn > himself...indicating an older partner. Whereas > native "fragmented" has 7th > lord Jupiter in the sign of Mercury...the younger > planet...this combined > with ascendant lord Mercury in 7th in navamsha leads > me to believe that the > two are in a relationship...please correct me if I'm > wrong. Plus both are in > 12th house dasas indicating difficulties. > > In regards to the issue of karma Rhoda; we all have > our own karma to work > through (both good and bad) and the fact is that no > one else has the power > to change our karma anyway. Yagyas, Mantras & Gems > certainly do help to > eleviate difficult periods in our lives and lesson > the impact of our karma, > but the native himself has to want this...no one > else can force another to > change if they don't wish to do so. Native "moon > dasa" is emotionally > connected to 12th house during this period. I doubt > if any logical arguments > will sway him from his emotional need for spending > and intoxicants. The > approach should be on the level of > emotions...caring, nurturing > etc...propitiation of moon would be helpful...but > again this has to be the > native's choice. According to my calculations (using > parallax correction and > krishnamurti ayanamsha) the native in question is > currently in MO-MA-KE > dasa. > > Native "fragmented" in RA-MA-SA dasa is undoubtedly > experiencing some > difficulties. Rahu constitutes change (often > unexpected and abrupt) in 12th > house can denote moving away from current living > place. Mars Bhukti > (associated with 7th lord JU) in 4th house can spoil > ones happiness and > contentment by bringing conflict (with partner) into > the home. > > The vidasa of 9th lord Saturn will bring increased > learning....higher > education, natural law, philosophy, astrology etc. > > Presently both SA and JU are transiting the 12th > house and are in retrograde > motion. Twelfth house significations therefore will > be having a huge > influence on the native's life at this > time...changes, difficulties, > expenditure etc...Saturn again as lord of 8th can > usher in some change in > the native's circumstances and as the 9th house is > his moolatrikona sign > this change is more likely to be beneficial than > harmful. > > Best regards > Wendy > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > gjlist- > > > Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 My mistake Rhoda! Thank you for correcting me. Certainly Saturn as lord of 7th indicates either older, wiser, or more pious spouse. As you say you have Saturn in ascendant...guess that makes you the wiser type. Good to know you're not in Rahu dasa. Regards Wendy Rhoda Reporter [rhodes10] Friday, October 20, 2000 5:48 AM gjlist Re: [gjlist] moon dasa relief / fragmented (wendy) --- Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote: > Dear Rhoda, > > First I assume that the natives of these two charts > are closely associated > in some way, i.e. in some kind of relationship. I > say this because of the > disposition of the 7th house in both charts. DEAR WENDY!! sorry to say i had a good laugh, when i read about the association presumed by you!! the moon relief person is my mate and the other one is my zoology professor(female) as for what you have written about 7th lord saturn, indicating an older partner!!! ( i am 7months younger to him)but have a serious saturn ® in the lagna!! and maybe that makes me quite mature and level headed!! thanks for the reading...........rhoda > > Native "relief" has Saturn ruling 7th house and in > constellation of Saturn > himself...indicating an older partner. Whereas > native "fragmented" has 7th > lord Jupiter in the sign of Mercury...the younger > planet...this combined > with ascendant lord Mercury in 7th in navamsha leads > me to believe that the > two are in a relationship...please correct me if I'm > wrong. Plus both are in > 12th house dasas indicating difficulties. > > In regards to the issue of karma Rhoda; we all have > our own karma to work > through (both good and bad) and the fact is that no > one else has the power > to change our karma anyway. Yagyas, Mantras & Gems > certainly do help to > eleviate difficult periods in our lives and lesson > the impact of our karma, > but the native himself has to want this...no one > else can force another to > change if they don't wish to do so. Native "moon > dasa" is emotionally > connected to 12th house during this period. I doubt > if any logical arguments > will sway him from his emotional need for spending > and intoxicants. The > approach should be on the level of > emotions...caring, nurturing > etc...propitiation of moon would be helpful...but > again this has to be the > native's choice. According to my calculations (using > parallax correction and > krishnamurti ayanamsha) the native in question is > currently in MO-MA-KE > dasa. > > Native "fragmented" in RA-MA-SA dasa is undoubtedly > experiencing some > difficulties. Rahu constitutes change (often > unexpected and abrupt) in 12th > house can denote moving away from current living > place. Mars Bhukti > (associated with 7th lord JU) in 4th house can spoil > ones happiness and > contentment by bringing conflict (with partner) into > the home. > > The vidasa of 9th lord Saturn will bring increased > learning....higher > education, natural law, philosophy, astrology etc. > > Presently both SA and JU are transiting the 12th > house and are in retrograde > motion. Twelfth house significations therefore will > be having a huge > influence on the native's life at this > time...changes, difficulties, > expenditure etc...Saturn again as lord of 8th can > usher in some change in > the native's circumstances and as the 9th house is > his moolatrikona sign > this change is more likely to be beneficial than > harmful. > > Best regards > Wendy > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > gjlist- > > > Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im./ gjlist- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Hi All I think there may be a lesson to be learned here...perhaps???...when both spouses have Saturn either aspecting or owning 7th house it cancels each other out in much the same way as kujadosha is cancelled (supposedly) when it's present in both horoscopes...any ideas or scriptural references on this?? Wendy Rhoda Reporter [rhodes10] Friday, October 20, 2000 5:48 AM gjlist Re: [gjlist] moon dasa relief / fragmented (wendy) --- Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote: > Dear Rhoda, > > First I assume that the natives of these two charts > are closely associated > in some way, i.e. in some kind of relationship. I > say this because of the > disposition of the 7th house in both charts. DEAR WENDY!! sorry to say i had a good laugh, when i read about the association presumed by you!! the moon relief person is my mate and the other one is my zoology professor(female) as for what you have written about 7th lord saturn, indicating an older partner!!! ( i am 7months younger to him)but have a serious saturn ® in the lagna!! and maybe that makes me quite mature and level headed!! thanks for the reading...........rhoda > > Native "relief" has Saturn ruling 7th house and in > constellation of Saturn > himself...indicating an older partner. Whereas > native "fragmented" has 7th > lord Jupiter in the sign of Mercury...the younger > planet...this combined > with ascendant lord Mercury in 7th in navamsha leads > me to believe that the > two are in a relationship...please correct me if I'm > wrong. Plus both are in > 12th house dasas indicating difficulties. > > In regards to the issue of karma Rhoda; we all have > our own karma to work > through (both good and bad) and the fact is that no > one else has the power > to change our karma anyway. Yagyas, Mantras & Gems > certainly do help to > eleviate difficult periods in our lives and lesson > the impact of our karma, > but the native himself has to want this...no one > else can force another to > change if they don't wish to do so. Native "moon > dasa" is emotionally > connected to 12th house during this period. I doubt > if any logical arguments > will sway him from his emotional need for spending > and intoxicants. The > approach should be on the level of > emotions...caring, nurturing > etc...propitiation of moon would be helpful...but > again this has to be the > native's choice. According to my calculations (using > parallax correction and > krishnamurti ayanamsha) the native in question is > currently in MO-MA-KE > dasa. > > Native "fragmented" in RA-MA-SA dasa is undoubtedly > experiencing some > difficulties. Rahu constitutes change (often > unexpected and abrupt) in 12th > house can denote moving away from current living > place. Mars Bhukti > (associated with 7th lord JU) in 4th house can spoil > ones happiness and > contentment by bringing conflict (with partner) into > the home. > > The vidasa of 9th lord Saturn will bring increased > learning....higher > education, natural law, philosophy, astrology etc. > > Presently both SA and JU are transiting the 12th > house and are in retrograde > motion. Twelfth house significations therefore will > be having a huge > influence on the native's life at this > time...changes, difficulties, > expenditure etc...Saturn again as lord of 8th can > usher in some change in > the native's circumstances and as the 9th house is > his moolatrikona sign > this change is more likely to be beneficial than > harmful. > > Best regards > Wendy > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > gjlist- > > > Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im./ gjlist- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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