Guest guest Posted September 28, 2000 Report Share Posted September 28, 2000 Shamin, Any time you have a mars saturn aspect some amount of frustration(ie anger) will be present,check the nakshatra also and drekenna.Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2000 Report Share Posted September 28, 2000 Hi Manoj and others: I have lots of anger and it shows. I get angry at people for nothing but just as I get angry easily, I get cooled off easily as well. I have Virgo lagna with Mars and Saturn conjoined in 2nd in Libra. That shouldn't make me angry. Any thoughts to this. Thanks. Shamim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2000 Report Share Posted September 28, 2000 Hello Shamin, Yes these two planets in the 2nd do have the effect of making you angry, especially when you interact with people. This is the house of speech, and interaction with people. Mars here causes angry thoughts and words with people, and the combination of the enemy Saturn makes the outbursts even more violent. This is bad for your lagna, as it is also a combination of the 6th and 8th lord, which makes speech worse. People do not just yell and swear at others for no reason. The thoughts must proceed your acts of speech. Therefore your mind is angered by people, and the unhealthy speech in caused. This is not a good position to have, as it causes estrangement from people, and lack of trust. People will not be comfortable speaking with you, unless you are aware of what you say. Mars causes angry words. Saturn causes negative talk, and deception. Everytime you are about to say somehting you should watch yourself. You may in fact be a very good person, but your speech is giving the impression to people that you are cruel. I have seen charts of crazy or evil people, with benefics in the second house. Everyone thinks that they are great people, when in fact this is not the case. Alex gjlist , "Shamim Lila" <LilaSh@o...> wrote: > Hi Manoj and others: > > I have lots of anger and it shows. I get angry at people for nothing > but just as I get angry easily, I get cooled off easily as well. I have > Virgo lagna with Mars and Saturn conjoined in 2nd in Libra. That > shouldn't make me angry. Any thoughts to this. Thanks. > > Shamim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2000 Report Share Posted September 28, 2000 Dear Shamim, Mars is a naturally fiery (angry) Planet, and is in the 2nd House of Speech - Saturn for Virgos is the 6th Lord of Disputes - and it is combined with Mars in the House of Speech...there you go :-) . Very best - Sateesh. ========== - "Shamim Lila" <LilaSh <gjlist > 28 September 2000 14:25 [gjlist] Anger > Hi Manoj and others: > > I have lots of anger and it shows. I get angry at people for nothing > but just as I get angry easily, I get cooled off easily as well. I have > Virgo lagna with Mars and Saturn conjoined in 2nd in Libra. That > shouldn't make me angry. Any thoughts to this. Thanks. > > Shamim > > > gjlist- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2000 Report Share Posted September 28, 2000 Hi! Anger is a common feature in life. When it comes to explosive and uncontrolled anger, as a result of excessive egoism and lack of respect for others - or respect for their feelings - I have found that two factors play a big role: 1. Moon in Cancer, in Pushya Nakshatra. 2. Scorpio as Ascendant or otherwise prominent thru occupation and with afflicting aspects. Mars in Scorpio or Aries helps to regain balance. Saturn in Scorpio makes one "non-forgiving". Moon in Cancer, its own house, makes the native "power-seeking". It is the Queen who wants to rule. The person may otherwise be generous and understanding, but always tries to control, is prepared to use all means to do so, and if this does not succeed, the anger is great indeed! Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2000 Report Share Posted September 28, 2000 Dear List members, This is very interesting and rather long subject line on this list. May I add two cents.. Agni Tatwa, represented by fiery signs(aries, leo, saggitarius),and fiery Grahas(sun and mars), represented in pitta dosha in Ayur Ved, is responsible for anger. So see the predominating Tatwa in Lagna/moon, and you will see the character. If the fiery signs/grahas predominate, a person is of fiery temperament and naturally prone to anger and angry(fiery) reactions. When these signs/grahas are in dustanas from sun/lagna, these pitta fiery troubles will torment the body, If from moon, they will torment the mind. If from Arudha Lagna, they may pose obstacles in success, while from Atmakarak, the anger will torment the soul >From dustana, treat the 8th house as roga(disease) and 6th house as shadripu (six weaknesses such as vices, etc.that may damage health.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2000 Report Share Posted September 29, 2000 Dear List Members, I can attest to my own anger, which I have learn to control through meditation and prayer. I have Sun and Mercury in Sagittarius, Mars in Leo and Aries lagnua, The anger does still come out, but to a much lesser degree and usually time alone and forgiveness seems to correct it. Denise Hoffecker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2000 Report Share Posted September 29, 2000 Dharmapada, LOL..... well, now knowing full well what your intentions are, it would be much harder for you. Good luck, Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2000 Report Share Posted September 29, 2000 Dear Denise, I bet I could piss you off! And you could meditate all you'd like. # ; ^ ) Dharmapada > Dear List Members, > I can attest to my own anger, which I have learn to control through > meditation and prayer. I have Sun and Mercury in Sagittarius, Mars in Leo and > Aries lagnua, The anger does still come out, but to a much lesser degree and > usually time alone and forgiveness seems to correct it. > > Denise Hoffecker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2000 Report Share Posted September 29, 2000 Sun, mercury and rahu must be looked at. What is your full data? M___ >"Shamim Lila" <LilaSh >gjlist ><gjlist > >[gjlist] Anger >Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:25:04 -0400 > >Hi Manoj and others: > >I have lots of anger and it shows. I get angry at people for nothing >but just as I get angry easily, I get cooled off easily as well. I have >Virgo lagna with Mars and Saturn conjoined in 2nd in Libra. That >shouldn't make me angry. Any thoughts to this. Thanks. > >Shamim _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2000 Report Share Posted September 30, 2000 As always My fingers are quicker than my brain and I sent this before adding that the influence of (malefic) Saturn on the other hand can produce real cruelty, and without any beneficial aspect can result in violent actions. Wendy - Wendy Vasicek gjlist Saturday, September 30, 2000 8:37 PM anger Hi All, A little input to the anger debate whilst I'm here. Mars connected to ascendant or it's lord (self), third house (actions), or fifth house of mind, suggests that anger can be quick to rise. It's important however to consider the influence Jupiter has on Mars or any of the aforementioned houses, as a beneficial Jupiter will quickly put out the fire of Mars. Anger may be quick to rise, but compassion will rise just as quickly. Mars connected in any way to the emotions can certainly reduce one to "angry tears" i.e. fourth house, Cancer, or Moon. Regards Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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