marraige delayed or denied!!???!! chris!!

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Also in early 2002, Uranus will be approaching a

conjunction

of the 7th cusp which to me suggests a reversal of her

marriage fortunes.

When married people have this transit, they often

separate, when single

people have it, they meet someone quickly - love at

first sight.

 

dear chris..i read your message to me on the delayed

or denied issue.on thing common is that most of the

readings have been bright and positive.

what i would like to know is that, will all leo rising

people have a problem in their relationships? the

married ones as you have written, can have a break up?

are there factors saving this kind of planetary

position? also what happens to leo rising people who

are in a LIVE IN RELATIONSHIP? does it affect them

too?

this is something which we must know on the gjlist.

i am a learner and not good at predicting happenings.

also if jupiter is in the 29th degree of leo, does it

have a 9th house aspect on tuarus?? since this jupiter

is almost peeping into virgo?? i ask this as my 7th

house is taurus and jup is in leo at 29:19..entering

virgo 9 days later.is that why my 7th house with merc

and sun,has some saving grace from jupiter's rays?

although my marriage ended in june 1995,in ketu major

period,i was already in a 2nd relationship.no

regrets!!

also i have been told that merc lord of my 11th house,

being in 7th will always look after me, and there will

be a provider!!marriage means a lot to me, but somehow

things have been pretty rough,does a venus /mars in

8th have a hand in this?

i do have saturn® in my ascendant, but got married

at 21..so there was no delay there.

will be good hearing from you!

thanks so much

 

rhoda

 

 

 

 

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At 08:56 AM 9/12/00 -0700, you wrote:

>

>Also in early 2002, Uranus will be approaching a

>conjunction

>of the 7th cusp which to me suggests a reversal of her

>marriage fortunes.

>When married people have this transit, they often

>separate, when single

>people have it, they meet someone quickly - love at

>first sight.

>

>dear chris..i read your message to me on the delayed

>or denied issue.on thing common is that most of the

>readings have been bright and positive.

>what i would like to know is that, will all leo rising

>people have a problem in their relationships? the

>married ones as you have written, can have a break up?

>are there factors saving this kind of planetary

>position? also what happens to leo rising people who

>are in a LIVE IN RELATIONSHIP? does it affect them

>too?

 

It's important to remember that the Uranus contact I mentioned is degree

specific. I think the 'marriage delayed' chart had a 1Le35 Asc or

something like that. Uranus is approaching that point within a degree or

two in early 2002. It does NOT affect all Leo rising people! Also, it is

not "foolproof", that is it is not always effective. I'd say that without

supporting factors, Uranus on the 7th doesn't do anything. There must be

supporting factors.

 

 

>this is something which we must know on the gjlist.

>i am a learner and not good at predicting happenings.

 

Actually, few people are good at prediction. I struggle at it as well.

 

>also if jupiter is in the 29th degree of leo, does it

>have a 9th house aspect on tuarus?? since this jupiter

>is almost peeping into virgo??

 

According to standard vedic aspecting, no, Jupiter only aspects Aries. For

the moment, I would stick to the standard rules, particularly if you're

referring to the natal chart.

 

i ask this as my 7th

>house is taurus and jup is in leo at 29:19..entering

>virgo 9 days later.is that why my 7th house with merc

>and sun,has some saving grace from jupiter's rays?

 

I don't think so.

 

>although my marriage ended in june 1995,in ketu major

>period,i was already in a 2nd relationship.no

>regrets!!

>also i have been told that merc lord of my 11th house,

>being in 7th will always look after me, and there will

>be a provider!!

 

Maybe this is statistically true, but it varies enormously from chart to

chart. There are so many other factors to consider.

 

marriage means a lot to me, but somehow

>things have been pretty rough,does a venus /mars in

>8th have a hand in this?

 

I think it might, but I also think it's the fact that Venus (marriage) is

afflicted by Mars, irrespective of the house. The fact that the

conjunction takes place in the 8th may make it a bit more relevant to

married life. Come to think of it, if Taurus is your 7th, then Venus rules

it and so Mars afflicts 1)Venus as karaka for love and marriage and 2)

Venus as 7th lord. A double whammy of sorts. But it needn't be as bad as

all that. It also matters that Mars is ruler of the ascendant. The

lagnesh should be seen as a benefic in many respects. 1L and 7L conjunct

would bring quick marriage. It also sexualizes your relationships and

perhaps that accelerated the marriage timetable.

 

>i do have saturn® in my ascendant, but got married

>at 21..so there was no delay there.

 

Another case of "don't take the rules too seriously"! Saturn in the 1/7

will tend to delay marriage, but that's likely true only if you look at 100

charts or more. In each chart, you need to look at Venus, the 7th house,

the 7th lord and navamsha.

 

Chris

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Dear Rhoda,

 

I hope you don't mind me trying to answer some questions without

being asked.

 

> will all leo rising

> people have a problem in their relationships? the

> married ones as you have written, can have a break up?

 

Leo ascendants usually have difficulties with their spouses for two

major reasons. Firstly the 7th lord Saturn is also the 6th lord of

disputes. This is always the case for Leos.

 

Secondly Saturn who owns the 7th house, is the enemy of Sun the ruler

of the chart. As the Sun is the royal planet, and Saturn the servant,

we find several things happenning. The partner is often of a lower

class, and also the Leo often tends to dominate the partner.

 

> are there factors saving this kind of planetary

> position?

 

The only ameliorating factor for the ownership of the 6th is when in

the Bhava chart another planet takes ownership of the 6th. In this

case Saturn's control of the 6th house is weakened and shared with

another planet, making Saturn's preoccupation with the 7th stronger.

Also due to the moolatrikona nature of Aquarius, Saturn focuses here

more.

 

If there is beneific influence on Saturn and it is in a benefic sign

and house, then the evil results will be negligeable. However sitting

in bad houses, and with bad association, they will be magnified.

 

> also what happens to leo rising people who

> are in a LIVE IN RELATIONSHIP?

 

A live in relationship is generally the same as a marriage according

to astrology. The only other case is if the person is runnning their

5th house lover cycle in which they may live with another. Jupiter as

a natural benefic and 5th lord generally gives better lovers for Leos

than the 7th does.

 

> i am a learner and not good at predicting happenings.

 

You must become a spiritual person in order to develop the best

powers of prediction. I know one jyotishi who lives a very Sattvic

life and does much puja. She has a super intuition and understanding

of the rules. Her predicitons come out correct almost all the time.

She does puja every day for many decades.

 

> also if jupiter is in the 29th degree of leo, does it

> have a 9th house aspect on tuarus?? since this jupiter

> is almost peeping into virgo?? i ask this as my 7th

> house is taurus and jup is in leo at 29:19.

 

You must check the bhava chart. This is an unequal division and it is

given by Parasara. At 29 degrees it could very easily be in the 11th

house of the bhava chart and aspecting the 7th.

 

> although my marriage ended in june 1995...

 

Is Ketu in the 7th or aspecting it? Who is he with? It could just be

the cycle of Ketu that is bringing a new mate.

 

> also i have been told that merc lord of my 11th house,

> being in 7th will always look after me, and there will

> be a provider!!

 

Mercury also takes ownership of the 8th so it also can be bad. The

conjunction with Sun is good, as sun is a good planet for your

ascendant due to ownership. Also if Jupiter aspects, then it is much

ameliorated. In this situations due to the placement of the 11th

lord, 10th lord, and if there is aspect of Jupiter 2nd and 5th lord,

then yes, the partner will have employment and bring you income. The

influence of Mercury, Sun in Venus's sign gives a nice partner, who

could be a business man, especially aspected by Jupiter.

 

> marriage means a lot to me, but somehow

> things have been pretty rough,does a venus /mars in

> 8th have a hand in this?

 

Yes, the exchange of 7th and 8th lords Mercury and Venus is bad, as

now there is a relationship formed between a duhsthana and the 7th.

Mercury's ownership of the 8th becomes specially related to the 7th.

 

The exchange is between two excellent friends however, so it is not

as bad as an exchange between enemies. Also according to Bhrigu, when

a planet exchanges houses, it gains the strength of own house. This

is something that must be tested.

 

Also Mars and Venus in the 8th gives too much preoccupation with

sexual matters, especially when the ascendant is taken into

consideration. This will put too much emphasis on this aspect of the

married life, and attracts you to sexual people, which may lead to

infidelity of the part of the partner. This is not good as with your

ascendant, you should be very possessive and emotional depending on

your Moon sign. In your chart your 7th lord and Mars does indicate

very sexual spouses.

 

Mars in the 8th is a mangalik yoga, which causes separation from

partner.

 

> i do have saturn® in my ascendant, but got married

> at 21..so there was no delay there.

 

However there was separation. Saturn is also forming a mangalik yoga.

Where is Rahu and Ketu? and the Moon?

 

Check if Jupiter's aspect is on the 7th according to the Sripati

unequal division. This will change the results for the better.

 

Sripati is the same as Porphry, except it gives the midpoints of the

house, instead of the start of the house.

 

Alex

 

> will be good hearing from you!

> thanks so much

>

> rhoda

>

>

>

>

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Dear Alex,

Excellent post,

just some remineders...

 

 

> Secondly Saturn who owns the 7th house, is the enemy of Sun the ruler

> of the chart. As the Sun is the royal planet, and Saturn the servant,

> we find several things happenning. The partner is often of a lower

> class, and also the Leo often tends to dominate the partner.

>

 

Don't forget rulership of rahu over kumba rasi, as per Jaimini and

Parashara. Thus, rahu that eclipses sun which is dharmakaraka is

terrible enemy to marriage...

 

> The only ameliorating factor for the ownership of the 6th is when in

> the Bhava chart another planet takes ownership of the 6th. In this

> case Saturn's control of the 6th house is weakened and shared with

> another planet, making Saturn's preoccupation with the 7th stronger.

> Also due to the moolatrikona nature of Aquarius, Saturn focuses here

> more.

>

 

Excellent point about mooltrikon of saturn

 

> A live in relationship is generally the same as a marriage according

> to astrology. The only other case is if the person is runnning their

> 5th house lover cycle in which they may live with another. Jupiter as

> a natural benefic and 5th lord generally gives better lovers for Leos

> than the 7th does.

>

 

Never forget to see upapada. Parashara is very clear about it

when speaking about person's spouse and progeny. Darapada

stands for sexual life/relationship.

 

> You must become a spiritual person in order to develop the best

> powers of prediction. I know one jyotishi who lives a very Sattvic

> life and does much puja. She has a super intuition and understanding

> of the rules. Her predicitons come out correct almost all the time.

> She does puja every day for many decades.

>

 

VERY VERY TRUE.

 

> > also i have been told that merc lord of my 11th house,

> > being in 7th will always look after me, and there will

> > be a provider!!

>

> Mercury also takes ownership of the 8th so it also can be bad. The

> conjunction with Sun is good, as sun is a good planet for your

> ascendant due to ownership. Also if Jupiter aspects, then it is much

> ameliorated. In this situations due to the placement of the 11th

> lord, 10th lord, and if there is aspect of Jupiter 2nd and 5th lord,

> then yes, the partner will have employment and bring you income. The

> influence of Mercury, Sun in Venus's sign gives a nice partner, who

> could be a business man, especially aspected by Jupiter.

>

 

If your vernus(rhoda) is placed in 8th house, then upapada falls

in kumba, which is ruled by both saturn and rahu. Check these

planets and you will see all about marriage. Fasting on saturydays

will be of much help if that is the case.

 

>

> > marriage means a lot to me, but somehow

> > things have been pretty rough,does a venus /mars in

> > 8th have a hand in this?

>

> Yes, the exchange of 7th and 8th lords Mercury and Venus is bad, as

> now there is a relationship formed between a duhsthana and the 7th.

> Mercury's ownership of the 8th becomes specially related to the 7th.

> The exchange is between two excellent friends however, so it is not

> as bad as an exchange between enemies. Also according to Bhrigu, when

> a planet exchanges houses, it gains the strength of own house. This

> is something that must be tested.

 

Excellent point about Bhrigu. Planets in parivarhtana exchange roles..Thus

mercury

will perform a role of venus and vice versa. Mars and venus will be most

probably

found in 6th house from arudha lagna. Thus shasha shukra marana karaka is

very

evil for marriage.

 

>

> Also Mars and Venus in the 8th gives too much preoccupation with

> sexual matters, especially when the ascendant is taken into

> consideration. This will put too much emphasis on this aspect of the

> married life, and attracts you to sexual people, which may lead to

> infidelity of the part of the partner. This is not good as with your

> ascendant, you should be very possessive and emotional depending on

> your Moon sign. In your chart your 7th lord and Mars does indicate

> very sexual spouses.

>

 

That is correct. For a check see where moon position is, It rules darapada

The strength of jupiter is vital for this chart. Jupiter rules 2nd house

from

upapada lagna and is shubha planet for scorpio lagna. Further it holds

exaltation sign of venus.

 

>

> Mars in the 8th is a mangalik yoga, which causes separation from

> partner.

>

 

Particulary as lagnesh. Very true in this case.

 

>

> > i do have saturn® in my ascendant, but got married

> > at 21..so there was no delay there.

>

> However there was separation. Saturn is also forming a mangalik yoga.

> Where is Rahu and Ketu? and the Moon?

>

 

Saturn is one of lords of upapada and its placement in lagna is not bad

for marrital life. Venus conjunction mars may give a marriage based on

physical/sexual attraction..

Hope you don't mind my interferance,

best wishes,

Zoran