the influence of yogas-example

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoj,

Here is the chart:

Male born 12.12.1977. in Ingolstadt

Germany in 23h 48 minutes

11.27 E 48.47 N

time zone 1h Lagna 25.29 simh

 

Please look at this chart, and you will see that it has normal

afflictions and normal beneficial places. However, life is totally

dark. I have some problems with my GJ program so I shall contact

Das about it, therefore if someone can post a chart for the benefit

and easy reference of all.

Try to give some hints about the chart objectively and you will see

that mere planetary positions cannot explain the life story,

Best wishes,

Zoran

[Guest guest]

Hi Zoran & All

 

I've been away from astrology, the list, and indeed the world, for the past

12mths so I'm more than a little rusty, but here goes.

I've just taken a VERY QUICK look at the horoscope you put up for consideration.

 

Firstly:

All the benefics (MO-ME-JU-VE) are in inimical signs whilst only the malefics

(SU-MA-SA) are neutral. There are no planets dignified. This of itself does not

bode well for a smooth life.

 

Secondly:

Asc.Lord's dispositor (Mars) has gone to the 12th house...this again (of itself)

does not bode well for a smooth life.

 

Thirdly:

Mars (in 12th) owns the two most important houses for happiness and problem

solving...4th hse; general happiness and contentment, and 9th hse; support from

nature, solutions to problems etc...not much luck! happiness & contentment

lacking!

 

Fourthly:

Saturn (Lord of 6th & 7th) in ascendant will certainly bring a lot of

difficulties, obstacles & disappointments to the native.

 

Fifthly:

The current dasa period is Rahu...note that Rahu's dispositor Mercury is

conjunct 12th lord Moon in the 5th house of the mind.

 

Sixth point:

Vidasa lord Jupiter is in the sign of a great enemy and is being aspected by

12th lord Moon and Rahu's dispositor (Mercury), who has, of course, taken

aboard the nature of Rahu.

 

Best Regards to All

Wendy

-

Zoran Radosavljevic

gjlist ; manojpathak

Tuesday, August 15, 2000 7:30 PM

[gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

 

 

 

Dear Manoj,

Here is the chart:

Male born 12.12.1977. in Ingolstadt

Germany in 23h 48 minutes

11.27 E 48.47 N

time zone 1h Lagna 25.29 simh

 

Please look at this chart, and you will see that it has normal

afflictions and normal beneficial places. However, life is totally

dark. I have some problems with my GJ program so I shall contact

Das about it, therefore if someone can post a chart for the benefit

and easy reference of all.

Try to give some hints about the chart objectively and you will see

that mere planetary positions cannot explain the life story,

Best wishes,

Zoran

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

gjlist-

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Zoran,Hare Krishna!

This chart...

 

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Rachu/Ketu - Mean

Lunar Parallax - No

Vimsottari Dasha - 360

Ashtaka Varga Bindu Scheme :Shri Parashara

 

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Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:51 +0400 Zoran Radosavljevic wrote to gjlist ,

manojpathak:

 

>

> Dear Manoj,

> Here is the chart:

> Male born 12.12.1977. in Ingolstadt

> Germany in 23h 48 minutes

> 11.27 E 48.47 N

> time zone 1h Lagna 25.29 simh

>

> Please look at this chart, and you will see that it has normal

> afflictions and normal beneficial places. However, life is totally

> dark. I have some problems with my GJ program so I shall contact

> Das about it, therefore if someone can post a chart for the benefit

> and easy reference of all.

> Try to give some hints about the chart objectively and you will see

> that mere planetary positions cannot explain the life story,

> Best wishes,

> Zoran

> gjlist-

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

[Guest guest]

Post Script

Most important feature that I forgot to mention is that 4 planets are in

retrograde motion...certainly this of itself will present many difficulties in

life. The houses ruled by these planets will not produce good results.

 

Wendy

-

Zoran Radosavljevic

gjlist ; manojpathak

Tuesday, August 15, 2000 7:30 PM

[gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

 

 

 

Dear Manoj,

Here is the chart:

Male born 12.12.1977. in Ingolstadt

Germany in 23h 48 minutes

11.27 E 48.47 N

time zone 1h Lagna 25.29 simh

 

Please look at this chart, and you will see that it has normal

afflictions and normal beneficial places. However, life is totally

dark. I have some problems with my GJ program so I shall contact

Das about it, therefore if someone can post a chart for the benefit

and easy reference of all.

Try to give some hints about the chart objectively and you will see

that mere planetary positions cannot explain the life story,

Best wishes,

Zoran

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

gjlist-

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Wendy,

Very, very glad to hear from you after such a long period.

 

>

> Firstly:

> All the benefics (MO-ME-JU-VE) are in inimical signs whilst only the malefics

(SU-MA-SA) are neutral. There are no planets dignified. This of itself does not

bode well for a smooth life.

>

 

All the things you mentioned are indicative.However, a person spent the

whole mars mahadasha in jail, being a

drug dealer. We cannot ascribe this to mars only, since my friend is leo

lagna with lagnesh in 4th surya, disposited by mangal in the deepest

debilitation point in 12 th house. The same position of lagna and lagna

lord. Thus her mars is more afflicted, and she didn't go to jail in mars

mahadasha.

Please note bandhan yoga in the chart, caused by two very evil grahas,

mangal and rahu. Bandhan means:"bondage" Rahu and mars cause bondage to

the self and body(lagna). Further, mars and ketu form again bandhan yoga

from arudha lagna, thus giving the native obstructed rise and fall/

imprisonment. Thus we can see that rahu/mangal/ketu are involved in bad

yoga, further more shani influence papargal(over mangal)from lagna just

added its restrictive influence. In navamsa,there is bahoo stree

yoga-venus and mars are placed in 2nd house, with jupiter, thus a person

is highly immoral. Ketu is capable of breaking the yoga, thus this yoga

operable untill marriage.Venus-mars-ketu are indicative of an excellent

finances, however saturn and rahu tend to break this influence and cause

expences. Rahu placed in 11th from arudha lagna will give income through

machinations/cheats. Gulika that is indicative of abusive

behaviour/drugs is placed together with mars in 12th, while in mars

mahadasha he strated using drugs. Atmakarak is chandra,and is placed

with budh, which is not good,since budh hates chandra.Guru would

otherwise be a good influence, however it is vakra(rx)The point about

retrograde planet is good, however, not a rule. From atmakarak there is

also Bandhan yoga, which indicates bondage of the soul.(rahu-ketu axis)

It is indicative that the first time he was arrested, and his troubles

started in mars mahadasha, rahu antara both planets involved in bandhan

yoga.

Best wishes,

Zoran

[Guest guest]

Dear Zoran

That was very interesting! re: time spent in jail etc...would it be possible to

send details of your friends chart so I could compare the two?

Obviously there are certain similarities, but one cannot judge without comparing

both charts...like they say, two sparrows do not a summer make.

 

I agree that yogas are very important, but even without vast knowledge of

anything other than the very basic yogas, one should be able to see the destiny

purely from the positioning and strength of the planets.

A well positioned (dignified) Jupiter has the power to cancel out all evil

yogas: i.e. bad things may still happen as a result of the (bad) yoga, but a

strong Jupiter will be able to overcome...a case of all's well that ends well.

Also, as in the chart you put up, if 9th lord is afflicted by being in the house

of loss, then outcomes will not be favourable, in spite of many good yogas.

 

Basically what I'm saying is that relying on yogas rather than simple

interpretation of the horoscope can often lead one astray...it's easy to get

caught up in many things and not see the woods for the trees.

 

Best regards

Wendy

 

-

Zoran Radosavljevic

gjlist

Cc: manojpathak

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 8:01 PM

Re: [gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

 

 

Dear Wendy,

Very, very glad to hear from you after such a long period.

 

>

> Firstly:

> All the benefics (MO-ME-JU-VE) are in inimical signs whilst only the

malefics (SU-MA-SA) are neutral. There are no planets dignified. This of itself

does not bode well for a smooth life.

>

 

All the things you mentioned are indicative.However, a person spent the

whole mars mahadasha in jail, being a

drug dealer. We cannot ascribe this to mars only, since my friend is leo

lagna with lagnesh in 4th surya, disposited by mangal in the deepest

debilitation point in 12 th house. The same position of lagna and lagna

lord. Thus her mars is more afflicted, and she didn't go to jail in mars

mahadasha.

Please note bandhan yoga in the chart, caused by two very evil grahas,

mangal and rahu. Bandhan means:"bondage" Rahu and mars cause bondage to

the self and body(lagna). Further, mars and ketu form again bandhan yoga

from arudha lagna, thus giving the native obstructed rise and fall/

imprisonment. Thus we can see that rahu/mangal/ketu are involved in bad

yoga, further more shani influence papargal(over mangal)from lagna just

added its restrictive influence. In navamsa,there is bahoo stree

yoga-venus and mars are placed in 2nd house, with jupiter, thus a person

is highly immoral. Ketu is capable of breaking the yoga, thus this yoga

operable untill marriage.Venus-mars-ketu are indicative of an excellent

finances, however saturn and rahu tend to break this influence and cause

expences. Rahu placed in 11th from arudha lagna will give income through

machinations/cheats. Gulika that is indicative of abusive

behaviour/drugs is placed together with mars in 12th, while in mars

mahadasha he strated using drugs. Atmakarak is chandra,and is placed

with budh, which is not good,since budh hates chandra.Guru would

otherwise be a good influence, however it is vakra(rx)The point about

retrograde planet is good, however, not a rule. From atmakarak there is

also Bandhan yoga, which indicates bondage of the soul.(rahu-ketu axis)

It is indicative that the first time he was arrested, and his troubles

started in mars mahadasha, rahu antara both planets involved in bandhan

yoga.

Best wishes,

Zoran

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

gjlist-

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Wendy,

 

> That was very interesting! re: time spent in jail etc...would it be possible

to send details of your friends chart so I could compare the two?

> Obviously there are certain similarities, but one cannot judge without

comparing both charts...like they say, two sparrows do not a summer make.

>

 

Of course:

She was born on 29.11.1962 in 23.46h in Novi Sad Yugoslavia

longitude 45.N 15 latitude 19E51. Time zone :1 GMT

Lagna 21.20 simha

 

 

> I agree that yogas are very important, but even without vast knowledge of

anything other than the very basic yogas, one should be able to see the destiny

purely from the positioning and strength of the planets.

> A well positioned (dignified) Jupiter has the power to cancel out all evil

yogas: i.e. bad things may still happen as a result of the (bad) yoga, but a

strong Jupiter will be able to overcome...a case of all's well that ends well.

> Also, as in the chart you put up, if 9th lord is afflicted by being in the

house of loss, then outcomes will not be favourable, in spite of many good

yogas.

> Basically what I'm saying is that relying on yogas rather than simple

interpretation of the horoscope can often lead one astray...it's easy to get

caught up in many things and not see the woods for the trees.

 

I agree. One should always evaluate strenght/positions of grahas, and their

pattern. Then Yogas,

They help us in moulding the final judgment. For example in the chart I posted,

there are many indicators

for drug abuse/imprisonment etc. Mars,9th lord(freedom of the person) is neecha

in 12th house of imprisonment

with Gulika( responsible for drug abuse).Mars has papargal and karthary yog from

shani etc.. But as the case is

with a previous chart, all those subtlities are better seen with a help of

yogas, and other parametars.

Best wishes,

Zoran

[Guest guest]

Dear Costa/ and list members,

Please do have a look at the chart I posted on list

(2nd exemple of lady born in1962) with neech mars

as well. What do you think of her husband? It is

very interesting case.

BEst wishes,

Zoran

 

costa wrote:

 

> Dear Zoran

> In this 2nd case there are no close afflictions to Mars since Rahu has a

> quite wide orb . Without afflictions Mars is still weak but does not give

> such tragic results .It may give shorter term unpleasent results due to

> transits .As soon as it gets hit by malefics he has little strength to

> protect himself whereas in the first case he has a lifelong assault from a

> malefic and with little strength to protect himself .

> Best Wishes

> Nicholas

>

> ----------

> > Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa

> > gjlist

> > Cc: manojpathak

> > Re: [gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

> > Wednesday, 16 August 2000 14:33

> >

> Dear Wendy,

>

> > That was very interesting! re: time spent in jail etc...would it be

> possible to send details of your friends chart so I could compare the two?

> > Obviously there are certain similarities, but one cannot judge without

> comparing both charts...like they say, two sparrows do not a summer make.

> >

>

> Of course:

> She was born on 29.11.1962 in 23.46h in Novi Sad Yugoslavia

> longitude 45.N 15 latitude 19E51. Time zone :1 GMT

> Lagna 21.20 simha

>

> > I agree that yogas are very important, but even without vast knowledge of

> anything other than the very basic yogas, one should be able to see the

> destiny purely from the positioning and strength of the planets.

> > A well positioned (dignified) Jupiter has the power to cancel out all

> evil yogas: i.e. bad things may still happen as a result of the (bad) yoga,

> but a strong Jupiter will be able to overcome...a case of all's well that

> ends well.

> > Also, as in the chart you put up, if 9th lord is afflicted by being in

> the house of loss, then outcomes will not be favourable, in spite of many

> good yogas.

> > Basically what I'm saying is that relying on yogas rather than simple

> interpretation of the horoscope can often lead one astray...it's easy to

> get caught up in many things and not see the woods for the trees.

>

> I agree. One should always evaluate strenght/positions of grahas, and their

> pattern. Then Yogas,

> They help us in moulding the final judgment. For example in the chart I

> posted, there are many indicators

> for drug abuse/imprisonment etc. Mars,9th lord(freedom of the person) is

> neecha in 12th house of imprisonment

> with Gulika( responsible for drug abuse).Mars has papargal and karthary yog

> from shani etc.. But as the case is

> with a previous chart, all those subtlities are better seen with a help of

> yogas, and other parametars.

> Best wishes,

> Zoran

>

> [<http://adimg./img/7746/1/_/913692/_/966499223/>]

> <http://click./1/7746/1/_/913692/_/966499223/>

>

> gjlist-

>

>

>

>

> gjlist-

[Guest guest]

Dear Zoran

Using the SA of Professor V.K.Choudhry Mars is debilitated , badly placed

and 100 % afflicted by Ketu The aspect of Ketu on Mars is 100% .Professor

Choudhry states that a planet that is weak (in this case debilitation is

weak) ,badly placed (6,8 and 12 are bad placements ) and afflicted (in this

case Ketu's affliction is measured at 100%) then he calls it severly

afflicted and such planets cause tragic results .

Hope this is useful to someone

Nicholas

 

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> Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa

> gjlist

> Cc: manojpathak

> Re: [gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

> Wednesday, 16 August 2000 7:01

>

Dear Wendy,

Very, very glad to hear from you after such a long period.

 

>

> Firstly:

> All the benefics (MO-ME-JU-VE) are in inimical signs whilst only the

malefics (SU-MA-SA) are neutral. There are no planets dignified. This of

itself does not bode well for a smooth life.

>

 

All the things you mentioned are indicative.However, a person spent the

whole mars mahadasha in jail, being a

drug dealer. We cannot ascribe this to mars only, since my friend is leo

lagna with lagnesh in 4th surya, disposited by mangal in the deepest

debilitation point in 12 th house. The same position of lagna and lagna

lord. Thus her mars is more afflicted, and she didn't go to jail in mars

mahadasha.

Please note bandhan yoga in the chart, caused by two very evil grahas,

mangal and rahu. Bandhan means:"bondage" Rahu and mars cause bondage to

the self and body(lagna). Further, mars and ketu form again bandhan yoga

from arudha lagna, thus giving the native obstructed rise and fall/

imprisonment. Thus we can see that rahu/mangal/ketu are involved in bad

yoga, further more shani influence papargal(over mangal)from lagna just

added its restrictive influence. In navamsa,there is bahoo stree

yoga-venus and mars are placed in 2nd house, with jupiter, thus a person

is highly immoral. Ketu is capable of breaking the yoga, thus this yoga

operable untill marriage.Venus-mars-ketu are indicative of an excellent

finances, however saturn and rahu tend to break this influence and cause

expences. Rahu placed in 11th from arudha lagna will give income through

machinations/cheats. Gulika that is indicative of abusive

behaviour/drugs is placed together with mars in 12th, while in mars

mahadasha he strated using drugs. Atmakarak is chandra,and is placed

with budh, which is not good,since budh hates chandra.Guru would

otherwise be a good influence, however it is vakra(rx)The point about

retrograde planet is good, however, not a rule. From atmakarak there is

also Bandhan yoga, which indicates bondage of the soul.(rahu-ketu axis)

It is indicative that the first time he was arrested, and his troubles

started in mars mahadasha, rahu antara both planets involved in bandhan

yoga.

Best wishes,

Zoran

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Wendy

Great to have you back on the list .What you been up to ? Good point about

the four retrograde planets.This person has a lot of things to work through

from the past. I agree that beginners and more experienced astrologers

should first calculate the basic strengths and weaknesses of the chart

before becoming absorbed in yogas. Yogas can be the clincher though .

Best Wishes

Nicholas

 

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> Wendy Vasicek <wenvas

> gjlist ; manojpathak

> Re: [gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

> Tuesday, 15 August 2000 23:41

>

Hi Zoran & All

 

I've been away from astrology, the list, and indeed the world, for the past

12mths so I'm more than a little rusty, but here goes.

I've just taken a VERY QUICK look at the horoscope you put up for

consideration.

 

Firstly:

All the benefics (MO-ME-JU-VE) are in inimical signs whilst only the

malefics (SU-MA-SA) are neutral. There are no planets dignified. This of

itself does not bode well for a smooth life.

 

Secondly:

Asc.Lord's dispositor (Mars) has gone to the 12th house...this again (of

itself) does not bode well for a smooth life.

 

Thirdly:

Mars (in 12th) owns the two most important houses for happiness and problem

solving...4th hse; general happiness and contentment, and 9th hse; support

from nature, solutions to problems etc...not much luck! happiness &

contentment lacking!

 

Fourthly:

Saturn (Lord of 6th & 7th) in ascendant will certainly bring a lot of

difficulties, obstacles & disappointments to the native.

 

Fifthly:

The current dasa period is Rahu...note that Rahu's dispositor Mercury is

conjunct 12th lord Moon in the 5th house of the mind.

 

Sixth point:

Vidasa lord Jupiter is in the sign of a great enemy and is being aspected

by 12th lord Moon and Rahu's dispositor (Mercury), who has, of course,

taken aboard the nature of Rahu.

 

Best Regards to All

Wendy

-

Zoran Radosavljevic

gjlist ; manojpathak

Tuesday, August 15, 2000 7:30 PM

[gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

 

 

 

Dear Manoj,

Here is the chart:

Male born 12.12.1977. in Ingolstadt

Germany in 23h 48 minutes

11.27 E 48.47 N

time zone 1h Lagna 25.29 simh

 

Please look at this chart, and you will see that it has normal

afflictions and normal beneficial places. However, life is totally

dark. I have some problems with my GJ program so I shall contact

Das about it, therefore if someone can post a chart for the benefit

and easy reference of all.

Try to give some hints about the chart objectively and you will see

that mere planetary positions cannot explain the life story,

Best wishes,

Zoran

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Zoran

although I have stated that the tragic events could be seen clearly using

the Systems Approach certainly an astrologer with good working experience

of yogas could also have predicted disaster . God is generous and gives us

more than one tool which can on it's own perform the task .

Thanks for the example

Nicholas

 

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> Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa

> gjlist

> Cc: manojpathak

> Re: [gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

> Wednesday, 16 August 2000 7:01

>

Dear Wendy,

Very, very glad to hear from you after such a long period.

 

>

> Firstly:

> All the benefics (MO-ME-JU-VE) are in inimical signs whilst only the

malefics (SU-MA-SA) are neutral. There are no planets dignified. This of

itself does not bode well for a smooth life.

>

 

All the things you mentioned are indicative.However, a person spent the

whole mars mahadasha in jail, being a

drug dealer. We cannot ascribe this to mars only, since my friend is leo

lagna with lagnesh in 4th surya, disposited by mangal in the deepest

debilitation point in 12 th house. The same position of lagna and lagna

lord. Thus her mars is more afflicted, and she didn't go to jail in mars

mahadasha.

Please note bandhan yoga in the chart, caused by two very evil grahas,

mangal and rahu. Bandhan means:"bondage" Rahu and mars cause bondage to

the self and body(lagna). Further, mars and ketu form again bandhan yoga

from arudha lagna, thus giving the native obstructed rise and fall/

imprisonment. Thus we can see that rahu/mangal/ketu are involved in bad

yoga, further more shani influence papargal(over mangal)from lagna just

added its restrictive influence. In navamsa,there is bahoo stree

yoga-venus and mars are placed in 2nd house, with jupiter, thus a person

is highly immoral. Ketu is capable of breaking the yoga, thus this yoga

operable untill marriage.Venus-mars-ketu are indicative of an excellent

finances, however saturn and rahu tend to break this influence and cause

expences. Rahu placed in 11th from arudha lagna will give income through

machinations/cheats. Gulika that is indicative of abusive

behaviour/drugs is placed together with mars in 12th, while in mars

mahadasha he strated using drugs. Atmakarak is chandra,and is placed

with budh, which is not good,since budh hates chandra.Guru would

otherwise be a good influence, however it is vakra(rx)The point about

retrograde planet is good, however, not a rule. From atmakarak there is

also Bandhan yoga, which indicates bondage of the soul.(rahu-ketu axis)

It is indicative that the first time he was arrested, and his troubles

started in mars mahadasha, rahu antara both planets involved in bandhan

yoga.

Best wishes,

Zoran

 

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[Guest guest]

jumping in where angels fear to tread ;-)

 

The man has a wry sense of humor (some would say even weird or distorted

compared to what is "normal"). Also, following marriage, her progress halted

in some ways. Progress in education, career, personal growth. Has the

husband had an operation or operations that were not successful and he

suffered during 94-95 and also in 1998 (second half). He may have a

biochemical/metabolic disorder.

 

MK

 

 

>Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa

>gjlist

>gjlist

>CC: manojpathak

>Re: [gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

>Thu, 17 Aug 2000 13:18:37 +0200

>

>Dear Costa/ and list members,

>Please do have a look at the chart I posted on list

>(2nd exemple of lady born in1962) with neech mars

>as well. What do you think of her husband? It is

>very interesting case.

>BEst wishes,

>Zoran

>

>costa wrote:

>

> > Dear Zoran

> > In this 2nd case there are no close afflictions to Mars since Rahu has a

> > quite wide orb . Without afflictions Mars is still weak but does not

>give

> > such tragic results .It may give shorter term unpleasent results due to

> > transits .As soon as it gets hit by malefics he has little strength to

> > protect himself whereas in the first case he has a lifelong assault from

>a

> > malefic and with little strength to protect himself .

> > Best Wishes

> > Nicholas

> >

> > ----------

> > > Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa

> > > gjlist

> > > Cc: manojpathak

> > > Re: [gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

> > > Wednesday, 16 August 2000 14:33

> > >

> > Dear Wendy,

> >

> > > That was very interesting! re: time spent in jail etc...would it be

> > possible to send details of your friends chart so I could compare the

>two?

> > > Obviously there are certain similarities, but one cannot judge without

> > comparing both charts...like they say, two sparrows do not a summer

>make.

> > >

> >

> > Of course:

> > She was born on 29.11.1962 in 23.46h in Novi Sad Yugoslavia

> > longitude 45.N 15 latitude 19E51. Time zone :1 GMT

> > Lagna 21.20 simha

> >

> > > I agree that yogas are very important, but even without vast knowledge

>of

> > anything other than the very basic yogas, one should be able to see the

> > destiny purely from the positioning and strength of the planets.

> > > A well positioned (dignified) Jupiter has the power to cancel out all

> > evil yogas: i.e. bad things may still happen as a result of the (bad)

>yoga,

> > but a strong Jupiter will be able to overcome...a case of all's well

>that

> > ends well.

> > > Also, as in the chart you put up, if 9th lord is afflicted by being in

> > the house of loss, then outcomes will not be favourable, in spite of

>many

> > good yogas.

> > > Basically what I'm saying is that relying on yogas rather than simple

> > interpretation of the horoscope can often lead one astray...it's easy to

> > get caught up in many things and not see the woods for the trees.

> >

> > I agree. One should always evaluate strenght/positions of grahas, and

>their

> > pattern. Then Yogas,

> > They help us in moulding the final judgment. For example in the chart I

> > posted, there are many indicators

> > for drug abuse/imprisonment etc. Mars,9th lord(freedom of the person) is

> > neecha in 12th house of imprisonment

> > with Gulika( responsible for drug abuse).Mars has papargal and karthary

>yog

> > from shani etc.. But as the case is

> > with a previous chart, all those subtlities are better seen with a help

>of

> > yogas, and other parametars.

> > Best wishes,

> > Zoran

> >

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> >

> > gjlist-

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > gjlist-

>

>

 

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Dear Zoran

In this 2nd case there are no close afflictions to Mars since Rahu has a

quite wide orb . Without afflictions Mars is still weak but does not give

such tragic results .It may give shorter term unpleasent results due to

transits .As soon as it gets hit by malefics he has little strength to

protect himself whereas in the first case he has a lifelong assault from a

malefic and with little strength to protect himself .

Best Wishes

Nicholas

 

----------

> Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa

> gjlist

> Cc: manojpathak

> Re: [gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

> Wednesday, 16 August 2000 14:33

>

Dear Wendy,

 

> That was very interesting! re: time spent in jail etc...would it be

possible to send details of your friends chart so I could compare the two?

> Obviously there are certain similarities, but one cannot judge without

comparing both charts...like they say, two sparrows do not a summer make.

>

 

Of course:

She was born on 29.11.1962 in 23.46h in Novi Sad Yugoslavia

longitude 45.N 15 latitude 19E51. Time zone :1 GMT

Lagna 21.20 simha

 

 

> I agree that yogas are very important, but even without vast knowledge of

anything other than the very basic yogas, one should be able to see the

destiny purely from the positioning and strength of the planets.

> A well positioned (dignified) Jupiter has the power to cancel out all

evil yogas: i.e. bad things may still happen as a result of the (bad) yoga,

but a strong Jupiter will be able to overcome...a case of all's well that

ends well.

> Also, as in the chart you put up, if 9th lord is afflicted by being in

the house of loss, then outcomes will not be favourable, in spite of many

good yogas.

> Basically what I'm saying is that relying on yogas rather than simple

interpretation of the horoscope can often lead one astray...it's easy to

get caught up in many things and not see the woods for the trees.

 

I agree. One should always evaluate strenght/positions of grahas, and their

pattern. Then Yogas,

They help us in moulding the final judgment. For example in the chart I

posted, there are many indicators

for drug abuse/imprisonment etc. Mars,9th lord(freedom of the person) is

neecha in 12th house of imprisonment

with Gulika( responsible for drug abuse).Mars has papargal and karthary yog

from shani etc.. But as the case is

with a previous chart, all those subtlities are better seen with a help of

yogas, and other parametars.

Best wishes,

Zoran

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

For happiness in life we look at the ascendant. It has the Maraka

Saturn in the 1st, in enemy's sign. There is no aspect of benefic on

Lagna. Lagna lord is with functionally malefic Venus. Lagna has Mars

in 12th and retrograde Rahu in 3rd, encroaching on 1st. This is very

bad, as to judge a bhava, you must look at the 1st, second and 12th

from it, which is all afflicted.

 

>From the ascendant Mars is in the 12th, and from Moon in 8th, both

houses of addiction, so he would have taken drugs through Mars. In

Bhava Saturn joins Mars which heightens the affliction. Also in the

12th house of sex it should have given no permanent relationships,

but many different partners and affairs.

 

Equal number of malefics in 2nd and 8th is kemadruma yoga of Jaimini.

 

Periods of Mars-Moon and especially Mars-Mercury very bad. Both also

bad on mind, as well as trouble.

 

Mars-Sun although bringing money, will have caused a confrontation

with the authorities and imprisonment.

 

Bhava chart is good and bad. The equal number of malefics in the

first and 12th causes the shrinkalabandha yoga of imprisonment

according to Jaimini. So this yoga is weakened, as Saturn moves out

of the 1st and combines now in the 12th with Mars, making two planets

in the 12th. This however cases another malefic yoga which causes

imprisonment.

 

Although in enemy signs, the exchange of Jupiter and Mercury is very

good, as they get the strength of own sign. It is a great combination

for wealth, status and learning. But during Jupiter's dasa.

 

Rahu is unaspected, so gives results of the house it is in and

dispositor. Both are bad. Rahu in 2nd is a maraka, and Mercury is one

of the worst planets of this ascendant. Luckily Jupiter's aspect is

on the Mercury Moon combination in the 5th, or he would have been

impotent, or have defunct sperm during Rahu.

 

I wrote this, and then saw your post about him being in jail and a

drugdealer. I knew this already! That is because I have a very

similar chart. So we can add another comparison. I have first hand

experience with this! While I have not run the Mars dasha yet, in the

dasha of Sun-Mars I was arrested and put in prison briefly, for drug

dealing charges laid against me. However unlike this fellow, I was

charged for another's crime! A person I knew had left drugs in my

car. It was towed, and I immediately reported it stolen, only to be

arrested a week later, when the police found the car and searched it

for the items I had listed on the insurance claim I made. They found

these drugs and arrested me! I had to go to court for 2 years, until

they dropped the charges! Thank God I had no bandhana yoga!

 

And recently in Sun-Saturn, Saturn who sits in my 12th with Mars,

during this cycle I was held captive by bandits in Honduras! Yogas

involving the 12th house are not nice! You will see that in my

navamsha Mars the 12th lord and Saturn combine again.

 

I just did your female friends chart. She also has bandhana yoga

along the 6th/12th axis. The Bandhana yoga in the case of the male is

exact. Mars and Rahu are 1 degree apart. Whereas with the girl, the

planets are more separate. As well, a raja yoga is formed with Mars

and Saturn, which lessens the malefic effects of the combination. But

I cannot beleive that she has suffered no harm from these placements,

especially in the Saturn subcycle. This also forms bandhana yoga with

Mars. However, most of all she will have a very high chance of

imprisonment or hospitilization during the Sun antardasha.

 

Yogas are as important in the horoscope as any other part. You cannot

venture accurate interpretations without them. The bandhana yoga is a

great example. Also for example the combination of Saturn and Mars in

the first for Cancer appears very bad, as Mars is debilitated, and

Saturn in the worst enemy's sign. It should make the person a failure

in life, poor, and without status. However the results are quite the

opposite due to the several raja yogas caused. The ill health still

remains however.

 

My Mars in 12th chart:

 

Alex

May 16,1976

Time: 1:03PM Zone: 5:00 DST: 1

 

Longitude: 79W34 Latitude: 43N39

Lahiri Ayanamsa: 23:32 365.25 Day Year

Current Period: Su/Sa/Ve

 

As 06:18 Le Magha Ke

Su 02:25 Ta Krittika Su

Mo 11:28 Sg Mula Ke

Ma 06:37 Cn Pushya Sa

MeR 08:09 Ta Krittika Su

Ju 18:37 Ar Bharani Ve

Ve 23:39 Ar Bharani Ve

Sa 04:40 Cn Pushya Sa

Ra 18:59 Li Swati Ra

Ke 18:59 Ar Bharani Ve

 

Vimshottari Dashas

==================

Ke May-16-1976

Ve May-10-1977

Su May-10-1997

Mo May-10-2003

Ma May-10-2013

Ra May-09-2020

Ju May-10-2038

Sa May-10-2054

Me May-10-2073

 

Rashi Chart

*******************************************************

** * * **

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * SA 04:40 * *

* * 6 * MA 06:37* *

* * * * * *

*RA 18:59 7 * AS 06:18 * 3 *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * 5 * * *

** * * SU 02:25 **

* 8 * 2 MER08:09 *

** * * **

* * * 11 * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * JU 18:37*

*MO 11:28 9 * * 1 KE 18:59*

* * * * * VE 23:39*

* * 10 * * 12 * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

** * * **

*******************************************************

 

Navamsa Chart

*******************************************************

** * * **

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * 3 * * 1 * *

* * * AS * * *

* MO 4 * * 12 MER *

* * * * * RA *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * 2 * * *

** * * **

* MA 5 * 11 *

** SA * * **

* * * 8 * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* JU 6 * VE * 10 SU *

* KE * * * * *

* * 7 * * 9 * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

** * * **

*******************************************************

 

 

Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis

========================

Ke/Me May 16,1976

Ve/Ve May 10,1977

Ve/Su Sep 8,1980

Ve/Mo Sep 8,1981

Ve/Ma May 10,1983

Ve/Ra Jul 9,1984

Ve/Ju Jul 10,1987

Ve/Sa Mar 10,1990

Ve/Me May 10,1993

Ve/Ke Mar 10,1996

Su/Su May 10,1997

Su/Mo Aug 27,1997

Su/Ma Feb 26,1998

Su/Ra Jul 4,1998

Su/Ju May 28,1999

Su/Sa Mar 16,2000

Su/Me Feb 26,2001

Su/Ke Jan 2,2002

Su/Ve May 10,2002

Mo/Mo May 10,2003

Mo/Ma Mar 10,2004

Mo/Ra Oct 9,2004

Mo/Ju Apr 9,2006

Mo/Sa Aug 9,2007

Mo/Me Mar 10,2009

Mo/Ke Aug 9,2010

Mo/Ve Mar 10,2011

Mo/Su Nov 8,2012

Ma/Ma May 10,2013

Ma/Ra Oct 6,2013

Ma/Ju Oct 24,2014

Ma/Sa Sep 30,2015

Ma/Me Nov 8,2016

Ma/Ke Nov 5,2017

Ma/Ve Apr 3,2018

Ma/Su Jun 4,2019

Ma/Mo Oct 9,2019

Ra/Ra May 9,2020

Ra/Ju Jan 21,2023

Ra/Sa Jun 15,2025

Ra/Me Apr 21,2028

Ra/Ke Nov 9,2030

Ra/Ve Nov 27,2031

Ra/Su Nov 27,2034

Ra/Mo Oct 22,2035

Ra/Ma Apr 21,2037

Ju/Ju May 10,2038

Ju/Sa Jun 27,2040

Ju/Me Jan 8,2043

Ju/Ke Apr 15,2045

Ju/Ve Mar 22,2046

Ju/Su Nov 20,2048

Ju/Mo Sep 8,2049

Ju/Ma Jan 8,2051

Ju/Ra Dec 15,2051

Sa/Sa May 10,2054

Sa/Me May 13,2057

Sa/Ke Jan 21,2060

Sa/Ve Mar 1,2061

Sa/Su Apr 30,2064

Sa/Mo Apr 12,2065

Sa/Ma Nov 12,2066

Sa/Ra Dec 21,2067

Sa/Ju Oct 27,2070

Me/Me May 10,2073

Me/Ke Oct 6,2075

Me/Ve Oct 3,2076

Me/Su Aug 3,2079

Me/Mo Jun 9,2080

Me/Ma Nov 8,2081

Me/Ra Nov 5,2082

Me/Ju May 25,2085

Me/Sa Aug 31,2087

 

 

 

 

gjlist , Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@p...> wrote:

>

> Dear Manoj,

> Here is the chart:

> Male born 12.12.1977. in Ingolstadt

> Germany in 23h 48 minutes

> 11.27 E 48.47 N

> time zone 1h Lagna 25.29 simh

>

> Please look at this chart, and you will see that it has normal

> afflictions and normal beneficial places. However, life is totally

> dark. I have some problems with my GJ program so I shall contact

> Das about it, therefore if someone can post a chart for the benefit

> and easy reference of all.

> Try to give some hints about the chart objectively and you will see

> that mere planetary positions cannot explain the life story,

> Best wishes,

> Zoran

[Guest guest]

Hi Zoran,

 

Husband is foreigner. Has money. But otherwise it looks bad. An

accident is shown during travel, hospitilization. But this is a

simple delineation. I know it is not what you are looking for. I am

very curious as to why this is an interesting case. Please tell us

about this fellow.

 

>From what I have seen in similar combinations it would make him a bad

man. The only saving feature being the Jupiter in the 7th, if she met

him during Jupiter sub-cycle. If it was in Saturn, then it is not so

good.

 

Alex

 

gjlist , Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@p...> wrote:

> Dear Costa/ and list members,

> Please do have a look at the chart I posted on list

> (2nd exemple of lady born in1962) with neech mars

> as well. What do you think of her husband? It is

> very interesting case.

> BEst wishes,

> Zoran

>

> costa wrote:

>

> > Dear Zoran

> > In this 2nd case there are no close afflictions to Mars since

Rahu has a

> > quite wide orb . Without afflictions Mars is still weak but does

not give

> > such tragic results .It may give shorter term unpleasent results

due to

> > transits .As soon as it gets hit by malefics he has little

strength to

> > protect himself whereas in the first case he has a lifelong

assault from a

> > malefic and with little strength to protect himself .

> > Best Wishes

> > Nicholas

> >

> > ----------

> > > Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@p...>

> > > gjlist

> > > Cc: manojpathak@h...

> > > Re: [gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

> > > Wednesday, 16 August 2000 14:33

> > >

> > Dear Wendy,

> >

> > > That was very interesting! re: time spent in jail etc...would

it be

> > possible to send details of your friends chart so I could compare

the two?

> > > Obviously there are certain similarities, but one cannot judge

without

> > comparing both charts...like they say, two sparrows do not a

summer make.

> > >

> >

> > Of course:

> > She was born on 29.11.1962 in 23.46h in Novi Sad Yugoslavia

> > longitude 45.N 15 latitude 19E51. Time zone :1 GMT

> > Lagna 21.20 simha

> >

> > > I agree that yogas are very important, but even without vast

knowledge of

> > anything other than the very basic yogas, one should be able to

see the

> > destiny purely from the positioning and strength of the planets.

> > > A well positioned (dignified) Jupiter has the power to cancel

out all

> > evil yogas: i.e. bad things may still happen as a result of the

(bad) yoga,

> > but a strong Jupiter will be able to overcome...a case of all's

well that

> > ends well.

> > > Also, as in the chart you put up, if 9th lord is afflicted by

being in

> > the house of loss, then outcomes will not be favourable, in spite

of many

> > good yogas.

> > > Basically what I'm saying is that relying on yogas rather than

simple

> > interpretation of the horoscope can often lead one astray...it's

easy to

> > get caught up in many things and not see the woods for the trees.

> >

> > I agree. One should always evaluate strenght/positions of grahas,

and their

> > pattern. Then Yogas,

> > They help us in moulding the final judgment. For example in the

chart I

> > posted, there are many indicators

> > for drug abuse/imprisonment etc. Mars,9th lord(freedom of the

person) is

> > neecha in 12th house of imprisonment

> > with Gulika( responsible for drug abuse).Mars has papargal and

karthary yog

> > from shani etc.. But as the case is

> > with a previous chart, all those subtlities are better seen with

a help of

> > yogas, and other parametars.

> > Best wishes,

> > Zoran

> >

> > [<http://adimg./img/7746/1/_/913692/_/966499223/>]

> > <http://click./1/7746/1/_/913692/_/966499223/>

> >

> > gjlist-

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > gjlist-

[Guest guest]

Dear Manas,

(what a nice name indeed)

 

> The man has a wry sense of humor (some would say even weird or distorted

> compared to what is "normal").

 

OK. It is true.

 

> Also, following marriage, her progress halted

> in some ways.

 

No. On the contrary

 

> Progress in education, career, personal growth.

 

Average education, good career, weak personal growth

 

> Has the

> husband had an operation or operations that were not successful

 

No,

 

> and he

> suffered during 94-95 and also in 1998 (second half).

 

Yes.

 

> He may have a

> biochemical/metabolic disorder.

 

Could be said.

Good try,

Best wishes,

I will wait for some other comments and tell more.

Zoran

[Guest guest]

Dear Costa,Alex, Wendy and others,

 

> The native first ran the mahadashas of Sun and Venus which are both strong

> in the chart .This gave her a good start in life and good education 1st is

> close to 2nd Lord in the 4th. Moon is Functionally malefic but

> reasonably strong and so should have been a reasonable period .

>

 

Her education is averege(not university). Note, 9th house afflicted, which has

denied university study. Moon mahadasha was very good. Moon rules

9th house from AL and Paka lagna. Moon is also well placed from surya.

On the very onset of moon mahadasha she got married. Moon has subharagal

over navamsa lagna and over 7th house, while sending rashi dristi to 7th house

in navamsa. Moon is in trines to 7th house, so moon maha/antara and pratyantara

 

gave marriege. At the time of marriage, guru was transiting kumbha over his

natal

position at the same time aspecting 2nd house from upapada, which is essential

for

marriage.

 

> Now w.r.t marriage Jupiter in 7th functionally benefic give shusband of

> good status .The 7th Lord has gone to the 6th (house of disputes) but is in

> it's own sign however it is also afflicted by Ketu .This does not bode well

> for continuing affection .Jupiter's debiliation in Navamsa furthermore

> suggests the good results he initially may give will collapse .The Mars

> mahadasha is weak and therefore likely to put every thing under stress .

>

 

Upapada lagan is in taurus, while its lord is in 6th house in libra. So husband

 

lagna is libra. Venus ruling upapada speaks of a wealthy husband. 2nd house

from upapada is afflicted by papargala of mars and rahu, as well as rashi

dristi

of mars/ket/sani/ rahu. Chandra is placed in 8th house from UL which is bad.

So chandra mahadasha gave both marriege and divorce.Please note that shukra is

as UL and natural karaka placed in 12th house from Arudha lagna, which is a

tendency

to reject husband. Navamsa positions are very afflicted as well. Guru in 7th

house is

initially good. Husband came from a wealthy position. He was a nice looking,

sportish,

well built, however, note that both lords of 7th house saturn and rahu are

placed in dustan.

In navamsa 7th lord mars is with ketu/venus which is a yoga for wealth.

However, shashta

shukra marana karaka(venus placement in 6th house is very evil) Thus when she

fell in

love she found out that her future husband was a heroine(drug) addict. She

fought with

that and managed to get him off the drugs, and gave birth to a sun. Many

pscyhiatrists

wanted to examine her case, since she was the rare woman who married a drug

addict

and managed to get him off drugs, and give birth to a healthy boy, born of

dhanu lagna.

and simha chandra. Note that in saptamsa, 5th lord ruling the 1st child is mars

which is neecha

placed in a frutiful sign cancer, which signifies a male child. Guru is placed

in 5th house so

the son's lagna is dhanu. In budha antara of chandra mahadasha, husband had a

love affair.

Budha is in 7th house of upapada lagna, being 5th lord(affair) placed in maraka

place from upapada.

Grahas in 7th house of upapada obstruct marriage being marakas. Surya is also

placed in 7th house

while chandra is placed in 8th house, so both parents in law didn't support

her, and were

inimical. Thus in chandra ketu, they divorced, ketu being lord of 7th

house(from UL), maraka and badly

placed in navamsa. IT is interesting to note that she started private business

with socks,

with the help of husband and in-laws. In chandra ketu, ex husband left abroad.

Guru is natural naisarghik karaka for female chart and at the same time

darakarak.

When venus and guru become darakarak some bitter experiences are expected in

the

field of marriage. At the onset of mars mahadasha, I predicted her a downfall

of business

in mars mahdasha and saturn antara. I also predicted a loss of a house on

account of debts.

See saturn bad placement in both rashi/navamsa, while mars is on the deepest

neecha degree

as 4th house lord. This has unfortuantely happened, since mars is atmakarak and

tends to punish

severely in his dasha, for the purpose of cleansing the sould and opening part

for spiritual evolution.

Now she started studying jyotisha and changed her views..

BEst wishes,

Zoran

[Guest guest]

Hi Zoran,

 

There are many similarities in the experiences of this woman and me.

The dashas are also nearly the same.

 

> Her education is averege(not university). Note, 9th house

> afflicted, which has denied university study.

 

I also have my Mars 4th and 9th lord debilitated in the 12th house

for Leo lagna. I finished my university degree with very great

difficulty. It took one more year than usual, and summer courses and

was extremely stressful.

 

I only attribute this completion to the conjunction of Jupiter, Ketu

and Venus in my 9th house. It was in Ketu antardasha in Venus dasha

that I went abroad to China to study. Ketu is in the 9th with the 5th

lord and is disposited by Mars in the 12th.

 

> On the very onset of moon mahadasha she got married.

 

In my haste, I did not look at her age or past dashas for timing

marriage. I have too many impatient fire signs!

 

I also have my Moon in the 5th in Sagittarius, and indeed in Sun-Moon

I had my first serious relationship, as soon as the antardasha began.

Before I figured this is because it rules the 12th house of

relationships and is in the 5th house of lover and is the

significator for woman or motherhood. But now I must study your extra

methods...(Great! more time on the computer ;-)

 

> So chandra mahadasha gave both marriege and divorce.

 

I would have predicted in Moon-Mars and Rahu great tension and

possible divorce due to the Mangalik yogas formed from the ascendant

and Moon by Mars and Rahu, but I guess I was mistaken.

 

>Guru in 7th house is initially good. Husband came from a wealthy

>position.

 

I wrote that he had money, as the 7th lord was forming a kendra-

trikona raya yoga with Mars, although along the 6/12th axis. I also

have my 7th lord in the 12th with Mars, and it gives me girlfriends

who are very well off for their ages.

 

>Thus when she fell in love she found out that her future husband was

> a heroine(drug)addict.

 

This I can attest to. I also have my Saturn in the 12th with Mars,

forming a similar yoga, with the exclusion of Rahu/Ketu and as such,

I have attracted to me either women who have been addicted to drugs

or alcohol and cigarrettes, or very sexually immoral and adulterous

women. In fact I have to say almost all of them were adulterous. And

it does not matter where I have met them, whether in class at

university, or through friends, they almost always turn out like this.

 

>Many pscyhiatrists wanted to examine her case, since she was the

>rare woman who married a drug addict and managed to get him off

> drugs, and give birth to a healthy boy, born of dhanu lagna.

> and simha chandra.

 

My friends want me to see a psychiatrist, but becasue I seem to only

date these probelmatic women. But it is not my fault. Any attempt to

meet normal women ends in failure. For example when I meet a decent

girl, we are separated immediately for one reason or another. I wish

there was something I could do to meet and keep a nice girl, but that

is karma.

 

> In budha antara of chandra mahadasha, husband had a

> love affair.

 

Long ago, I realized to expect this from the women I date ;-)

 

 

> Budha is in 7th house of upapada lagna, being 5th lord(affair)

> placed in maraka place from upapada. Grahas in 7th house of upapada

> obstruct marriage being marakas. Surya is also placed in 7th house

> while chandra is placed in 8th house, so both parents in law didn't

> support her, and were inimical.

 

Well, I also have the same Upapada lagna as she does, with maraka

Mercury in the 1st with Sun, and Moon in the 8th, so I can tell I

have a lot to look forward to in my Moon mahadasha ;-)

 

> At the onset of mars mahadasha, I predicted her a downfall

> of business in mars mahdasha and saturn antara. I also predicted a

> loss of a house on account of debts.

 

More exciting things to look forward to in my Mars Mahadasha! Well,

mine is not as bad as hers. Mars-Saturn she got bandhana yoga, also

Saturn becomes a very strong duhstana lord as well as maraka in the

6th in own house, as well Mars conjoins 12th lord Rahu, and Saturn

6th lord Ketu. So it is much worse.

 

In my Mars and Saturn subcycles for the most part I have lived in

very nice houses for free, with vehicles and domestic life, apart

from the odd argument with family memebers.

 

But in my Navamsha, Mars/Saturn form another kendra-trikona yoga in

the 4th house.

 

> Now she started studying jyotisha and changed her views..

 

In Mars antar of Sun dasha I became even more deeply interested in

spiritual life, and it greatly escalated from Rahu antar onwards.

 

Thanks for the info Zoran, it had special significance to myself,

 

C'est la vie,

 

Alex

[Guest guest]

Dear Alex,

 

>

> I also have my Mars 4th and 9th lord debilitated in the 12th house

> for Leo lagna. I finished my university degree with very great

> difficulty. It took one more year than usual, and summer courses and

> was extremely stressful.

> I only attribute this completion to the conjunction of Jupiter, Ketu

> and Venus in my 9th house. It was in Ketu antardasha in Venus dasha

> that I went abroad to China to study. Ketu is in the 9th with the 5th

> lord and is disposited by Mars in the 12th.

>

 

Completely different effects are seen in your chart. Ketu is coolord of 4th

house

of formal education, thus he helps.

 

> I also have my Moon in the 5th in Sagittarius, and indeed in Sun-Moon

> I had my first serious relationship, as soon as the antardasha began.

> Before I figured this is because it rules the 12th house of

> relationships and is in the 5th house of lover and is the

> significator for woman or motherhood. But now I must study your extra

> methods...(Great! more time on the computer ;-)

>

 

What is significant in your chart, is that darapada(arudha of 7th) is in

dhanu in

your chart, holding moon. So this indicated relationship/sex partners.

 

> I wrote that he had money, as the 7th lord was forming a kendra-

> trikona raya yoga with Mars, although along the 6/12th axis. I also

> have my 7th lord in the 12th with Mars, and it gives me girlfriends

> who are very well off for their ages.

>

 

Darapada is in 5th house, Thus girlfriends are well off.

 

> This I can attest to. I also have my Saturn in the 12th with Mars,

> forming a similar yoga, with the exclusion of Rahu/Ketu and as such,

> I have attracted to me either women who have been addicted to drugs

> or alcohol and cigarrettes, or very sexually immoral and adulterous

> women. In fact I have to say almost all of them were adulterous. And

> it does not matter where I have met them, whether in class at

> university, or through friends, they almost always turn out like this.

>

 

This position is bad as it gives tendency to reject wome/partners at last..

 

> My friends want me to see a psychiatrist, but becasue I seem to only

> date these probelmatic women. But it is not my fault. Any attempt to

> meet normal women ends in failure. For example when I meet a decent

> girl, we are separated immediately for one reason or another. I wish

> there was something I could do to meet and keep a nice girl, but that

> is karma.

>

 

There is something. Your Upapada lagna is afflicted. ITs lord venus is in

12th house from it. That is very difficult for marriage. IT gives either no

marriage or marriage to a foreigner. Thus fast on the days of Upapada

will bring releif. So fast on friday, from sunrise-to sunset, with

fruit/milk/water.

and say mantra to Lord Bhagawan Vishnu, who is the protector of Dharma

(OM NAMO NARAYANAYA). You may also wear a red coral ruing the

house of dharma(mangal). THese are the best traditional remedies. Furhter

more,

7th lord from venus is assigned to bring spouse. It is again venus. So

fasting will

help you get the spouse as soon as possible.

 

> Well, I also have the same Upapada lagna as she does, with maraka

> Mercury in the 1st with Sun, and Moon in the 8th, so I can tell I

> have a lot to look forward to in my Moon mahadasha ;-)

>

 

Don't worry sun and mercury are well placed in upapada. Spouse should

be intelectual, influential and coming from a good family. Sun is never

malefic

for upapada(see Jaimini) It is dharmakaraka.

 

> In Mars antar of Sun dasha I became even more deeply interested in

> spiritual life, and it greatly escalated from Rahu antar onwards.

>

 

Mars is sitting in dharmapada, while sun rules mantrapada. You have rahu in

12th house from arudha lagna, so from rahu antara onwards the spirital path

unfolded.

 

>

> Thanks for the info Zoran, it had special significance to myself,

>

 

Best wishes,

Zoran

[Guest guest]

Dear Nicholas,

 

> I think I got the main points using just the basic strengths of the planets

> but obviously with Jaimini astrology (which I am ignorant of) you are able

> to get into a lot more detail .

 

Of course. The basic aspect is first. When I do charts, I have a methodology.

First I ascertain each planet carefuly, and then move on.. Jiamini astrology is

no different from Parashari, as it is seen in BPHS. The great value of

Maharishi Jaimini is on rashi dasas, his invaluble commentaries on

navamsa/karakamsa and special yogas.

 

> Congratulations on your successful

> predictions

 

I was most unhappy when this happened. I advised her strongly to save money

before that. She didn't listen. Even when I predicted that she would buy a new

expensive car in the 1st part of january 1998, in guru antaradasha, she was

very happy. I strongly advised her not to do it, she bought a car on 8th of

january(more than 15000US $ in cash) If she had properly invested the money,

she would have saved a house. You see the deepest debilitation degree mars!

 

> My one obvious mistake was to think the native had good rather

> than average education . The weakness of the 4th Lord and the debilitastion

> of Jupiter in Navamsa should have alerted me that the native may not go all

> the way despite the promise of the Sun,Mercury combination .

 

Don't worry, we all learn on mistakes..For higher education, always consult 9th

house.

Warm regards,

Zoran

[Guest guest]

Dear Zoran

Here's my attempt .Thamks for the puzzle also .I am in favor of studying

examples rather than theoretical posturing .Unfortunately I use Jupiter for

marriage for women .

The native first ran the mahadashas of Sun and Venus which are both strong

in the chart .This gave her a good start in life and good education 1st is

close to 2nd Lord in the 4th. Moon is Functionally malefic but

reasonably strong and so should have been a reasonable period .

 

Now w.r.t marriage Jupiter in 7th functionally benefic give shusband of

good status .The 7th Lord has gone to the 6th (house of disputes) but is in

it's own sign however it is also afflicted by Ketu .This does not bode well

for continuing affection .Jupiter's debiliation in Navamsa furthermore

suggests the good results he initially may give will collapse .The Mars

mahadasha is weak and therefore likely to put every thing under stress .

 

So my conclusion is that the early promise of the marriage fizzled out .

Looking forward to the answer .

Nicholas------

> Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa

> gjlist

> Cc: manojpathak

> Re: [gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

> Thursday, 17 August 2000 6:18

>

Dear Costa/ and list members,

Please do have a look at the chart I posted on list

(2nd exemple of lady born in1962) with neech mars

as well. What do you think of her husband? It is

very interesting case.

BEst wishes,

Zoran

 

costa wrote:

 

> Dear Zoran

> In this 2nd case there are no close afflictions to Mars since Rahu has a

> quite wide orb . Without afflictions Mars is still weak but does not

give

> such tragic results .It may give shorter term unpleasent results due to

> transits .As soon as it gets hit by malefics he has little strength to

> protect himself whereas in the first case he has a lifelong assault from

a

> malefic and with little strength to protect himself .

> Best Wishes

> Nicholas

>

> ----------

> > Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa

> > gjlist

> > Cc: manojpathak

> > Re: [gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

> > Wednesday, 16 August 2000 14:33

> >

> Dear Wendy,

>

> > That was very interesting! re: time spent in jail etc...would it be

> possible to send details of your friends chart so I could compare the

two?

> > Obviously there are certain similarities, but one cannot judge without

> comparing both charts...like they say, two sparrows do not a summer make.

> >

>

> Of course:

> She was born on 29.11.1962 in 23.46h in Novi Sad Yugoslavia

> longitude 45.N 15 latitude 19E51. Time zone :1 GMT

> Lagna 21.20 simha

>

> > I agree that yogas are very important, but even without vast knowledge

of

> anything other than the very basic yogas, one should be able to see the

> destiny purely from the positioning and strength of the planets.

> > A well positioned (dignified) Jupiter has the power to cancel out all

> evil yogas: i.e. bad things may still happen as a result of the (bad)

yoga,

> but a strong Jupiter will be able to overcome...a case of all's well that

> ends well.

> > Also, as in the chart you put up, if 9th lord is afflicted by being in

> the house of loss, then outcomes will not be favourable, in spite of many

> good yogas.

> > Basically what I'm saying is that relying on yogas rather than simple

> interpretation of the horoscope can often lead one astray...it's easy to

> get caught up in many things and not see the woods for the trees.

>

> I agree. One should always evaluate strenght/positions of grahas, and

their

> pattern. Then Yogas,

> They help us in moulding the final judgment. For example in the chart I

> posted, there are many indicators

> for drug abuse/imprisonment etc. Mars,9th lord(freedom of the person) is

> neecha in 12th house of imprisonment

> with Gulika( responsible for drug abuse).Mars has papargal and karthary

yog

> from shani etc.. But as the case is

> with a previous chart, all those subtlities are better seen with a help

of

> yogas, and other parametars.

> Best wishes,

> Zoran

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Dear Zoran

thanks for an interesting example

I think I got the main points using just the basic strengths of the planets

but obviously with Jaimini astrology (which I am ignorant of) you are able

to get into a lot more detail . Congratulations on your successful

predictions My one obvious mistake was to think the native had good rather

than average education . The weakness of the 4th Lord and the debilitastion

of Jupiter in Navamsa should have alerted me that the native may not go all

the way despite the promise of the Sun,Mercury combination .

Warm Regards

Nicholas

----------

> Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa

> gjlist

> Cc: manojpathak

> Re: [gjlist] the influence of yogas-example

> Friday, 18 August 2000 11:20

>

Dear Costa,Alex, Wendy and others,

 

> The native first ran the mahadashas of Sun and Venus which are both

strong

> in the chart .This gave her a good start in life and good education 1st

is

> close to 2nd Lord in the 4th. Moon is Functionally malefic but

> reasonably strong and so should have been a reasonable period .

>

 

Her education is averege(not university). Note, 9th house afflicted, which

has

denied university study. Moon mahadasha was very good. Moon rules

9th house from AL and Paka lagna. Moon is also well placed from surya.

On the very onset of moon mahadasha she got married. Moon has subharagal

over navamsa lagna and over 7th house, while sending rashi dristi to 7th

house

in navamsa. Moon is in trines to 7th house, so moon maha/antara and

pratyantara

 

gave marriege. At the time of marriage, guru was transiting kumbha over his

natal

position at the same time aspecting 2nd house from upapada, which is

essential

for

marriage.

 

> Now w.r.t marriage Jupiter in 7th functionally benefic give shusband of

> good status .The 7th Lord has gone to the 6th (house of disputes) but is

in

> it's own sign however it is also afflicted by Ketu .This does not bode

well

> for continuing affection .Jupiter's debiliation in Navamsa furthermore

> suggests the good results he initially may give will collapse .The Mars

> mahadasha is weak and therefore likely to put every thing under stress .

>

 

Upapada lagan is in taurus, while its lord is in 6th house in libra. So

husband

 

lagna is libra. Venus ruling upapada speaks of a wealthy husband. 2nd house

from upapada is afflicted by papargala of mars and rahu, as well as rashi

dristi

of mars/ket/sani/ rahu. Chandra is placed in 8th house from UL which is

bad.

So chandra mahadasha gave both marriege and divorce.Please note that shukra

is

as UL and natural karaka placed in 12th house from Arudha lagna, which is a

tendency

to reject husband. Navamsa positions are very afflicted as well. Guru in

7th

house is

initially good. Husband came from a wealthy position. He was a nice

looking,

sportish,

well built, however, note that both lords of 7th house saturn and rahu are

placed in dustan.

In navamsa 7th lord mars is with ketu/venus which is a yoga for wealth.

However, shashta

shukra marana karaka(venus placement in 6th house is very evil) Thus when

she

fell in

love she found out that her future husband was a heroine(drug) addict. She

fought with

that and managed to get him off the drugs, and gave birth to a sun. Many

pscyhiatrists

wanted to examine her case, since she was the rare woman who married a drug

addict

and managed to get him off drugs, and give birth to a healthy boy, born of

dhanu lagna.

and simha chandra. Note that in saptamsa, 5th lord ruling the 1st child is

mars

which is neecha

placed in a frutiful sign cancer, which signifies a male child. Guru is

placed

in 5th house so

the son's lagna is dhanu. In budha antara of chandra mahadasha, husband had

a

love affair.

Budha is in 7th house of upapada lagna, being 5th lord(affair) placed in

maraka

place from upapada.

Grahas in 7th house of upapada obstruct marriage being marakas. Surya is

also

placed in 7th house

while chandra is placed in 8th house, so both parents in law didn't support

her, and were

inimical. Thus in chandra ketu, they divorced, ketu being lord of 7th

house(from UL), maraka and badly

placed in navamsa. IT is interesting to note that she started private

business

with socks,

with the help of husband and in-laws. In chandra ketu, ex husband left

abroad.

Guru is natural naisarghik karaka for female chart and at the same time

darakarak.

When venus and guru become darakarak some bitter experiences are expected

in

the

field of marriage. At the onset of mars mahadasha, I predicted her a

downfall

of business

in mars mahdasha and saturn antara. I also predicted a loss of a house on

account of debts.

See saturn bad placement in both rashi/navamsa, while mars is on the

deepest

neecha degree

as 4th house lord. This has unfortuantely happened, since mars is atmakarak

and

tends to punish

severely in his dasha, for the purpose of cleansing the sould and opening

part

for spiritual evolution.

Now she started studying jyotisha and changed her views..

BEst wishes,

Zoran

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Alex

Could you submit your birth details

I am finding this quite useful studying differences between similar charts

Nicholas

 

----------

> Alex <lostinmotion

> gjlist

> [gjlist] Re: the influence of yogas-example

> Friday, 18 August 2000 13:14

>

Hi Zoran,

 

There are many similarities in the experiences of this woman and me.

The dashas are also nearly the same.

 

> Her education is averege(not university). Note, 9th house

> afflicted, which has denied university study.

 

I also have my Mars 4th and 9th lord debilitated in the 12th house

for Leo lagna. I finished my university degree with very great

difficulty. It took one more year than usual, and summer courses and

was extremely stressful.

 

I only attribute this completion to the conjunction of Jupiter, Ketu

and Venus in my 9th house. It was in Ketu antardasha in Venus dasha

that I went abroad to China to study. Ketu is in the 9th with the 5th

lord and is disposited by Mars in the 12th.

 

> On the very onset of moon mahadasha she got married.

 

In my haste, I did not look at her age or past dashas for timing

marriage. I have too many impatient fire signs!

 

I also have my Moon in the 5th in Sagittarius, and indeed in Sun-Moon

I had my first serious relationship, as soon as the antardasha began.

Before I figured this is because it rules the 12th house of

relationships and is in the 5th house of lover and is the

significator for woman or motherhood. But now I must study your extra

methods...(Great! more time on the computer ;-)

 

> So chandra mahadasha gave both marriege and divorce.

 

I would have predicted in Moon-Mars and Rahu great tension and

possible divorce due to the Mangalik yogas formed from the ascendant

and Moon by Mars and Rahu, but I guess I was mistaken.

 

>Guru in 7th house is initially good. Husband came from a wealthy

>position.

 

I wrote that he had money, as the 7th lord was forming a kendra-

trikona raya yoga with Mars, although along the 6/12th axis. I also

have my 7th lord in the 12th with Mars, and it gives me girlfriends

who are very well off for their ages.

 

>Thus when she fell in love she found out that her future husband was

> a heroine(drug)addict.

 

This I can attest to. I also have my Saturn in the 12th with Mars,

forming a similar yoga, with the exclusion of Rahu/Ketu and as such,

I have attracted to me either women who have been addicted to drugs

or alcohol and cigarrettes, or very sexually immoral and adulterous

women. In fact I have to say almost all of them were adulterous. And

it does not matter where I have met them, whether in class at

university, or through friends, they almost always turn out like this.

 

>Many pscyhiatrists wanted to examine her case, since she was the

>rare woman who married a drug addict and managed to get him off

> drugs, and give birth to a healthy boy, born of dhanu lagna.

> and simha chandra.

 

My friends want me to see a psychiatrist, but becasue I seem to only

date these probelmatic women. But it is not my fault. Any attempt to

meet normal women ends in failure. For example when I meet a decent

girl, we are separated immediately for one reason or another. I wish

there was something I could do to meet and keep a nice girl, but that

is karma.

 

> In budha antara of chandra mahadasha, husband had a

> love affair.

 

Long ago, I realized to expect this from the women I date ;-)

 

 

> Budha is in 7th house of upapada lagna, being 5th lord(affair)

> placed in maraka place from upapada. Grahas in 7th house of upapada

> obstruct marriage being marakas. Surya is also placed in 7th house

> while chandra is placed in 8th house, so both parents in law didn't

> support her, and were inimical.

 

Well, I also have the same Upapada lagna as she does, with maraka

Mercury in the 1st with Sun, and Moon in the 8th, so I can tell I

have a lot to look forward to in my Moon mahadasha ;-)

 

> At the onset of mars mahadasha, I predicted her a downfall

> of business in mars mahdasha and saturn antara. I also predicted a

> loss of a house on account of debts.

 

More exciting things to look forward to in my Mars Mahadasha! Well,

mine is not as bad as hers. Mars-Saturn she got bandhana yoga, also

Saturn becomes a very strong duhstana lord as well as maraka in the

6th in own house, as well Mars conjoins 12th lord Rahu, and Saturn

6th lord Ketu. So it is much worse.

 

In my Mars and Saturn subcycles for the most part I have lived in

very nice houses for free, with vehicles and domestic life, apart

from the odd argument with family memebers.

 

But in my Navamsha, Mars/Saturn form another kendra-trikona yoga in

the 4th house.

 

> Now she started studying jyotisha and changed her views..

 

In Mars antar of Sun dasha I became even more deeply interested in

spiritual life, and it greatly escalated from Rahu antar onwards.

 

Thanks for the info Zoran, it had special significance to myself,

 

C'est la vie,

 

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Hi Zoran,

 

Thanks for all of the time and effort spent on my questions and

everyone elses. How do you find time for yourself? Or maybe this is

what you do with some of that time to yourself ;-)

 

Your points are very well received. I have had not much experience in

Jaimini, due to the confusion surrounding him. Such as the

calculation of Arudhas according to the special rules.

 

I have Hora Lite program. Do you follow the same method of Arudha

calculation?

 

Warm regards,

 

Alex

 

 

 

 

gjlist , Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@p...> wrote:

> Dear Alex,

>

> >

> > I also have my Mars 4th and 9th lord debilitated in the 12th house

> > for Leo lagna. I finished my university degree with very great

> > difficulty. It took one more year than usual, and summer courses

and

> > was extremely stressful.

> > I only attribute this completion to the conjunction of Jupiter,

Ketu

> > and Venus in my 9th house. It was in Ketu antardasha in Venus

dasha

> > that I went abroad to China to study. Ketu is in the 9th with the

5th

> > lord and is disposited by Mars in the 12th.

> >

>

> Completely different effects are seen in your chart. Ketu is

coolord of 4th

> house

> of formal education, thus he helps.

>

> > I also have my Moon in the 5th in Sagittarius, and indeed in Sun-

Moon

> > I had my first serious relationship, as soon as the antardasha

began.

> > Before I figured this is because it rules the 12th house of

> > relationships and is in the 5th house of lover and is the

> > significator for woman or motherhood. But now I must study your

extra

> > methods...(Great! more time on the computer ;-)

> >

>

> What is significant in your chart, is that darapada(arudha of 7th)

is in

> dhanu in

> your chart, holding moon. So this indicated relationship/sex

partners.

>

> > I wrote that he had money, as the 7th lord was forming a kendra-

> > trikona raya yoga with Mars, although along the 6/12th axis. I

also

> > have my 7th lord in the 12th with Mars, and it gives me

girlfriends

> > who are very well off for their ages.

> >

>

> Darapada is in 5th house, Thus girlfriends are well off.

>

> > This I can attest to. I also have my Saturn in the 12th with Mars,

> > forming a similar yoga, with the exclusion of Rahu/Ketu and as

such,

> > I have attracted to me either women who have been addicted to

drugs

> > or alcohol and cigarrettes, or very sexually immoral and

adulterous

> > women. In fact I have to say almost all of them were adulterous.

And

> > it does not matter where I have met them, whether in class at

> > university, or through friends, they almost always turn out like

this.

> >

>

> This position is bad as it gives tendency to reject wome/partners

at last..

>

> > My friends want me to see a psychiatrist, but becasue I seem to

only

> > date these probelmatic women. But it is not my fault. Any attempt

to

> > meet normal women ends in failure. For example when I meet a

decent

> > girl, we are separated immediately for one reason or another. I

wish

> > there was something I could do to meet and keep a nice girl, but

that

> > is karma.

> >

>

> There is something. Your Upapada lagna is afflicted. ITs lord venus

is in

> 12th house from it. That is very difficult for marriage. IT gives

either no

> marriage or marriage to a foreigner. Thus fast on the days of

Upapada

> will bring releif. So fast on friday, from sunrise-to sunset, with

> fruit/milk/water.

> and say mantra to Lord Bhagawan Vishnu, who is the protector of

Dharma

> (OM NAMO NARAYANAYA). You may also wear a red coral ruing the

> house of dharma(mangal). THese are the best traditional remedies.

Furhter

> more,

> 7th lord from venus is assigned to bring spouse. It is again venus.

So

> fasting will

> help you get the spouse as soon as possible.

>

> > Well, I also have the same Upapada lagna as she does, with maraka

> > Mercury in the 1st with Sun, and Moon in the 8th, so I can tell I

> > have a lot to look forward to in my Moon mahadasha ;-)

> >

>

> Don't worry sun and mercury are well placed in upapada. Spouse

should

> be intelectual, influential and coming from a good family. Sun is

never

> malefic

> for upapada(see Jaimini) It is dharmakaraka.

>

> > In Mars antar of Sun dasha I became even more deeply interested in

> > spiritual life, and it greatly escalated from Rahu antar onwards.

> >

>

> Mars is sitting in dharmapada, while sun rules mantrapada. You have

rahu in

> 12th house from arudha lagna, so from rahu antara onwards the

spirital path

> unfolded.

>

> >

> > Thanks for the info Zoran, it had special significance to myself,

> >

>

> Best wishes,

> Zoran

[Guest guest]

Hi Nicholas,

 

No problem,

 

May 16, 1976 1:04pm Toronto, Canada

 

Alex

 

 

 

gjlist , "costa" <costa@A...> wrote:

> Dear Alex

> Could you submit your birth details

> I am finding this quite useful studying differences between similar

charts

> Nicholas

>

> ----------

> > Alex <lostinmotion@h...>

> > gjlist

> > [gjlist] Re: the influence of yogas-example

> > Friday, 18 August 2000 13:14

> >

> Hi Zoran,

>

> There are many similarities in the experiences of this woman and

me.

> The dashas are also nearly the same.

>

> > Her education is averege(not university). Note, 9th house

> > afflicted, which has denied university study.

>

> I also have my Mars 4th and 9th lord debilitated in the 12th house

> for Leo lagna. I finished my university degree with very great

> difficulty. It took one more year than usual, and summer courses

and

> was extremely stressful.

>

> I only attribute this completion to the conjunction of Jupiter,

Ketu

> and Venus in my 9th house. It was in Ketu antardasha in Venus dasha

> that I went abroad to China to study. Ketu is in the 9th with the

5th

> lord and is disposited by Mars in the 12th.

>

> > On the very onset of moon mahadasha she got married.

>

> In my haste, I did not look at her age or past dashas for timing

> marriage. I have too many impatient fire signs!

>

> I also have my Moon in the 5th in Sagittarius, and indeed in Sun-

Moon

> I had my first serious relationship, as soon as the antardasha

began.

> Before I figured this is because it rules the 12th house of

> relationships and is in the 5th house of lover and is the

> significator for woman or motherhood. But now I must study your

extra

> methods...(Great! more time on the computer ;-)

>

> > So chandra mahadasha gave both marriege and divorce.

>

> I would have predicted in Moon-Mars and Rahu great tension and

> possible divorce due to the Mangalik yogas formed from the

ascendant

> and Moon by Mars and Rahu, but I guess I was mistaken.

>

> >Guru in 7th house is initially good. Husband came from a wealthy

> >position.

>

> I wrote that he had money, as the 7th lord was forming a kendra-

> trikona raya yoga with Mars, although along the 6/12th axis. I also

> have my 7th lord in the 12th with Mars, and it gives me girlfriends

> who are very well off for their ages.

>

> >Thus when she fell in love she found out that her future husband

was

> > a heroine(drug)addict.

>

> This I can attest to. I also have my Saturn in the 12th with Mars,

> forming a similar yoga, with the exclusion of Rahu/Ketu and as

such,

> I have attracted to me either women who have been addicted to drugs

> or alcohol and cigarrettes, or very sexually immoral and adulterous

> women. In fact I have to say almost all of them were adulterous.

And

> it does not matter where I have met them, whether in class at

> university, or through friends, they almost always turn out like

this.

>

> >Many pscyhiatrists wanted to examine her case, since she was the

> >rare woman who married a drug addict and managed to get him off

> > drugs, and give birth to a healthy boy, born of dhanu lagna.

> > and simha chandra.

>

> My friends want me to see a psychiatrist, but becasue I seem to

only

> date these probelmatic women. But it is not my fault. Any attempt

to

> meet normal women ends in failure. For example when I meet a decent

> girl, we are separated immediately for one reason or another. I

wish

> there was something I could do to meet and keep a nice girl, but

that

> is karma.

>

> > In budha antara of chandra mahadasha, husband had a

> > love affair.

>

> Long ago, I realized to expect this from the women I date ;-)

>

>

> > Budha is in 7th house of upapada lagna, being 5th lord(affair)

> > placed in maraka place from upapada. Grahas in 7th house of

upapada

> > obstruct marriage being marakas. Surya is also placed in 7th house

> > while chandra is placed in 8th house, so both parents in law

didn't

> > support her, and were inimical.

>

> Well, I also have the same Upapada lagna as she does, with maraka

> Mercury in the 1st with Sun, and Moon in the 8th, so I can tell I

> have a lot to look forward to in my Moon mahadasha ;-)

>

> > At the onset of mars mahadasha, I predicted her a downfall

> > of business in mars mahdasha and saturn antara. I also predicted

a

> > loss of a house on account of debts.

>

> More exciting things to look forward to in my Mars Mahadasha! Well,

> mine is not as bad as hers. Mars-Saturn she got bandhana yoga, also

> Saturn becomes a very strong duhstana lord as well as maraka in the

> 6th in own house, as well Mars conjoins 12th lord Rahu, and Saturn

> 6th lord Ketu. So it is much worse.

>

> In my Mars and Saturn subcycles for the most part I have lived in

> very nice houses for free, with vehicles and domestic life, apart

> from the odd argument with family memebers.

>

> But in my Navamsha, Mars/Saturn form another kendra-trikona yoga in

> the 4th house.

>

> > Now she started studying jyotisha and changed her views..

>

> In Mars antar of Sun dasha I became even more deeply interested in

> spiritual life, and it greatly escalated from Rahu antar onwards.

>

> Thanks for the info Zoran, it had special significance to myself,

>

> C'est la vie,

>

> Alex

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