Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2000 Hello Marcia and other group members, Vipreet Raj Yoga occurs when: a) The 6th lord is in the 8th or the 12th house - gives happiness, helath and fame b) The 8th lord is in the 6th or the 12th house - gives learning and prosperity c) The 12th lord is in the 6th or the 8th house - makes native virtuous and contented Vipin Doda Free! Astrological Consultancy at: http://www.sonipat.com/supraastrology Ph: 0091-1264-50841 ICQ#: 65802234 - marcia gjlist Tuesday, June 06, 2000 6:53 AM Re: [gjlist] Exaltation and Debilitation hello all: sorry to be so naive but i was wondering if someone could explain Vipreet Raj yoga please? thank you Marcia At 02:49 PM 6/5/00, you wrote: >In a message dated 06/05/2000 2:24:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >costa writes: > ><< .I stick to the SA definitions of exaltation and MT which > seem logical.and simple and use the full sign for exaltation and > debilitation and do not ascribe any particular degree as giving more > exaltation . >> > > > . thanks Nicholas! This is the eventual conclusion I came to, since the >texts I've read always say both things; for example, mars DEB at 28 degrees, >however, in readings for the whole sign the planet is still debilitated.. > >I'll happily read my own chart this way -- mars in cancer in the eighth, but >in Capricorn in Navamsa ( and still in the eighth at six degrees ) gives its >worst effects in the earlier part of life, and improves somewhat as time goes >on, perhaps not protecting the poor beleaguered accident prone native totally >but at least giving her a fighting chance. There is also Vipreet Raj yoga >with the lord of twelfth ( scorpio ) in the eighth. Mars is also the >strongest planet in abovesaid poor beleaguered accident prone native's Shad >Bala. > >Hope! I'm about eighty five percent sure of my reading: What do you think? > >Thanks again. > >Love, > >Vox > > >------ >How about a flat, no-fee long distance rate of 6.7¢ per min. - >or less? Join beMANY! Our huge buying group gives you rates which >fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! >http://click./1/3820/1/_/913692/_/960241794/ >------ > > >gjlist- > @}-------->-------------- "Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke of luck." The Dalai Lama gjlist- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 6, 2000 Vipin, In my case (scorpio Lagna), 1st and 6th Lord Mars is in 8th. 7th and 12th Lord Venus is in 8th and 2nd and 5th Lord, Jupe, is also in the 8th. Since 6th lord is in 8th and 12th lord is in 8th, does it constitute Vipareet Raj Yoga ? [ The GJ Software is saying that it's Vipreet Raj Yoga, but I heard from someone that the dusthana planets should not be associated with anybody else for a Vipareet. ] What's right ? Tarun Vipin Doda wrote: > Hello Marcia and other group members, > > Vipreet Raj Yoga occurs when: > > a) The 6th lord is in the 8th or the 12th house - gives happiness, helath and fame > b) The 8th lord is in the 6th or the 12th house - gives learning and prosperity > c) The 12th lord is in the 6th or the 8th house - makes native virtuous and contented > > Vipin Doda > Free! Astrological Consultancy at: > http://www.sonipat.com/supraastrology > Ph: 0091-1264-50841 > ICQ#: 65802234 > > - > marcia > gjlist > Tuesday, June 06, 2000 6:53 AM > Re: [gjlist] Exaltation and Debilitation > > hello all: > sorry to be so naive but i was wondering if someone could explain Vipreet > Raj yoga please? > thank you > > Marcia > > At 02:49 PM 6/5/00, you wrote: > >In a message dated 06/05/2000 2:24:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > >costa writes: > > > ><< .I stick to the SA definitions of exaltation and MT which > > seem logical.and simple and use the full sign for exaltation and > > debilitation and do not ascribe any particular degree as giving more > > exaltation . >> > > > > > > . thanks Nicholas! This is the eventual conclusion I came to, since the > >texts I've read always say both things; for example, mars DEB at 28 degrees, > >however, in readings for the whole sign the planet is still debilitated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 6, 2000 > I heard from someone that the dusthana planets should not be associated > with anybody else > for > a Vipareet. ] What's right ? The formal definition is given in Uttara Kalamrita 4.22: "If any one of the following four Yogas takes place-(1) Lord of the 8th in the 12th or the 6th; (2) Lord of the 6th being placed in the 8th or the 12th; (3) Lord of the 12th being in the 6th or the 8th; (4) the said three lords being connected in any way, by mutual exchange, mutual aspect or conjunction and at the same time are free from such relation with other planets-the person born will become a great king lording over other kings and blessed with fame and wealth." There is, however, a rider on this rule and that is that there can be no other planets involved who are lords of good houses. Suppose for Pisces Ascendant you have Sun, Jupiter and Venus in the 12th. Then the Sun as 6th lord, and Venus as 8th conjoined in the 12th form Viparita Raja Yoga, but because Jupiter is there and he is the lord of the Ascendant and the 10th, then this is not Viparita Raja Yoga but rather a very destructive yoga. In this case Jupiter is assailed by two bad planets while in a weak position. So as long as there are no good lords in the combination then Viparita Raja Yoga can be said to exist. Also, the result will vary considerably according to the following criterion: What sign is rising, which sign rules the 8th house, who is the ruling planet of the 8th house, what is the relationship between the planet who rules the 8th house and the planet who tenants it, who is aspecting or conjoining the 8th house and its lord, what is the situation of the 8th house; is the planet situated in the 8th weak or strong or somewhere in between by positional strength (stana-bala), temporal strength (kala-bala), etc.; are any special yogas (planetary combinations) formed, what houses does the planet who is tenanting the 8th own, etc. Only after carefully scrutinizing the situation should a person make a decision. Dbd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 6, 2000 Namaste All!, I was wondering about this Yoga, and let me take the case of a Virgo Ascendant, which has Saturn in Leo (without any other planets). Saturn is the lord of 6, so this must be Vipreet Raj Yoga, but at the same time saturn is also the lord of 5 (children). What should one conclude in such a case?? Thanx in advance -Saravanan Markandeyan Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 7, 2000 Dear List Members, with respect to VIpareet Raj Yogas, I have found in my expereience that if another palnet is involved in a vipareet raj yoga, that planet suffers due to it's house indications as well as natural karakas. There still seems to be a yoga effect, but also the destruction of the other planet. Take Care, Ernst www.vedic astrology.net - Dadhibhaksa (das) HKS (Cakovec - HR) <dadhibhaksa.hks <gjlist > Tuesday, June 06, 2000 2:18 PM Re: [gjlist] Re: Vipreet Raj Yoga > > I heard from someone that the dusthana planets should not be associated > > with anybody else > > for > > a Vipareet. ] What's right ? > > The formal definition is given in Uttara Kalamrita 4.22: > > "If any one of the following four Yogas takes place-(1) Lord of the 8th in > the 12th or the 6th; (2) Lord of the 6th being placed in the 8th or the > 12th; (3) Lord of the 12th being in the 6th or the 8th; (4) the said three > lords being connected in any way, by mutual exchange, mutual aspect or > conjunction and at the same time are free from such relation with other > planets-the person born will become a great king lording over other kings > and blessed with fame and wealth." > > There is, however, a rider on this rule and that is that there can be no > other planets involved who are lords of good houses. Suppose for Pisces > Ascendant you have Sun, Jupiter and Venus in the 12th. Then the Sun as 6th > lord, and Venus as 8th conjoined in the 12th form Viparita Raja Yoga, but > because Jupiter is there and he is the lord of the Ascendant and the 10th, > then this is not Viparita Raja Yoga but rather a very destructive yoga. In > this case Jupiter is assailed by two bad planets while in a weak position. > > So as long as there are no good lords in the combination then Viparita Raja > Yoga can be said to exist. > > Also, the result will vary considerably according to the following > criterion: What sign is rising, which sign rules the 8th house, who is the > ruling planet of the 8th house, what is the relationship between the planet > who rules the 8th house and the planet who tenants it, who is aspecting or > conjoining the 8th house and its lord, what is the situation of the 8th > house; is the planet situated in the 8th weak or strong or somewhere in > between by positional strength (stana-bala), temporal strength (kala-bala), > etc.; are any special yogas (planetary combinations) formed, what houses > does the planet who is tenanting the 8th own, etc. Only after carefully > scrutinizing the situation should a person make a decision. > > Dbd > > ------ > Remember Father's Day Is June 18th > Click Here For Great Gifts! > http://click./1/5037/1/_/913692/_/960326660/ > ------ > > > gjlist- > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 7, 2000 Thank you vipin. At 08:23 PM 6/5/00, Vipin Doda wrote: >Hello Marcia and other group members, > >Vipreet Raj Yoga occurs when: > >a) The 6th lord is in the 8th or the 12th house - gives happiness, helath >and fame >b) The 8th lord is in the 6th or the 12th house - gives learning and >prosperity >c) The 12th lord is in the 6th or the 8th house - makes native virtuous >and contented > >Vipin Doda >Free! Astrological Consultancy at: >http://www.sonipat.com/supraastrology >Ph: 0091-1264-50841 >ICQ#: 65802234 @}-------->-------------- "Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke of luck." The Dalai Lama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 8, 2000 > I was wondering about this Yoga, and let me take > the case of a Virgo Ascendant, which has Saturn > in Leo (without any other planets). > Saturn is the lord of 6, so this must be Vipreet > Raj Yoga, but at the same time saturn is also the > lord of 5 (children). > What should one conclude in such a case?? You'll feel effects od Vipreet Raja Yoga. As far as Saturn is concerned as 5h lord, it depends of Navamsa, other influences, etc.. Dbd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
