Exaltation and Debilitation

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I'm confused about the rules of E and D. If mars, for example, is at 28

degrees Cancer, it is debilitated. If it is at 20 degrees Cancer, is it still

debilitated or less debilitated than at 28 degrees? Or does that hold true

for the whole sign of Cancer? Likewise with exaltation. If this planet were

in Capricorn at two degrees, would that make it exalted? Or would it have to

be at 28 degrees?

 

Also, is it true that if a planet is exalted in rasi but debilitated in

navamsa, this debiltates the planet? What about in dusthana houses? Can the

status be changed through a change in status in navamsa?

 

Thanks.

 

Vox

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In a message dated 06/05/2000 2:24:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

costa writes:

 

<< .I stick to the SA definitions of exaltation and MT which

seem logical.and simple and use the full sign for exaltation and

debilitation and do not ascribe any particular degree as giving more

exaltation . >>

 

 

. thanks Nicholas! This is the eventual conclusion I came to, since the

texts I've read always say both things; for example, mars DEB at 28 degrees,

however, in readings for the whole sign the planet is still debilitated.

 

I'll happily read my own chart this way -- mars in cancer in the eighth, but

in Capricorn in Navamsa ( and still in the eighth at six degrees ) gives its

worst effects in the earlier part of life, and improves somewhat as time goes

on, perhaps not protecting the poor beleaguered accident prone native totally

but at least giving her a fighting chance. There is also Vipreet Raj yoga

with the lord of twelfth ( scorpio ) in the eighth. Mars is also the

strongest planet in abovesaid poor beleaguered accident prone native's Shad

Bala.

 

Hope! I'm about eighty five percent sure of my reading: What do you think?

 

Thanks again.

 

Love,

 

Vox

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In a message dated 06/05/2000 6:26:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

marcia writes:

 

<< hello all:

sorry to be so naive but i was wondering if someone could explain Vipreet

Raj yoga please?

thank you >>

 

 

: ). Hi Marcia. Vipreet Raja Yoga is when the lord of a dusthana house ( 6,

8, 12) is in another dusthana house -- so if mars, which rules scorpio on the

twelfth house cusp, is in the eighth, this is Vipreet Raja Yoga. It's

supposed to temper the evil there by containing it or maybe the idea is two

negatives make a positive or something like this. The Lord should also be

alone in the house. It doesn't have to be a natural malefic lord for Vipreet

to work -- Libra could be on the twelfth with venus in the eighth.

 

It also helps to not be Buddy Holly. .

 

 

HTH

 

Vox

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hello all:

sorry to be so naive but i was wondering if someone could explain Vipreet

Raj yoga please?

thank you

 

Marcia

 

 

At 02:49 PM 6/5/00, you wrote:

>In a message dated 06/05/2000 2:24:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

>costa writes:

>

><< .I stick to the SA definitions of exaltation and MT which

> seem logical.and simple and use the full sign for exaltation and

> debilitation and do not ascribe any particular degree as giving more

> exaltation . >>

>

>

> . thanks Nicholas! This is the eventual conclusion I came to, since the

>texts I've read always say both things; for example, mars DEB at 28 degrees,

>however, in readings for the whole sign the planet is still debilitated.

>

>I'll happily read my own chart this way -- mars in cancer in the eighth, but

>in Capricorn in Navamsa ( and still in the eighth at six degrees ) gives its

>worst effects in the earlier part of life, and improves somewhat as time goes

>on, perhaps not protecting the poor beleaguered accident prone native totally

>but at least giving her a fighting chance. There is also Vipreet Raj yoga

>with the lord of twelfth ( scorpio ) in the eighth. Mars is also the

>strongest planet in abovesaid poor beleaguered accident prone native's Shad

>Bala.

>

>Hope! I'm about eighty five percent sure of my reading: What do you think?

>

>Thanks again.

>

>Love,

>

>Vox

>

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In a message dated 06/05/2000 10:39:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

manojpathak writes:

 

<<

Regarding exaltation and debilitation, you would find an answer in the

Shadbala where you would find that the planet has not lost much strength

when it is not exactly on the degrees of exaltation. 1 Rupa is the total

strength, when it is exactly on exaltation and by rule of proportion, it

does not lose much, by being at 20 degrees. >>

 

 

Manoj, thanks for your answer -- can you just clarify this for me? I was

understanding that exaltation and debilitation are not included in Shadbala

calculations? Or is that wrong?

 

Thanks.

 

Vox

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> The Lord should also be

> alone in the house.

 

No. It can be with lord of that particular house.

 

>It doesn't have to be a natural malefic lord for

> Vipreet to work -- Libra could be on the twelfth with venus in the eighth.

 

Idealy, Vipreet is when lord of 6th, 8th or 12th is not at the same time

lord of trine or quadrant.

 

Dbd

[Guest guest]

>I'm confused about the rules of E and D. If mars, for example, is at 28

>degrees Cancer, it is debilitated. If it is at 20 degrees Cancer, is it

>still

>debilitated or less debilitated than at 28 degrees? Or does that hold true

>for the whole sign of Cancer? Likewise with exaltation. If this planet were

>in Capricorn at two degrees, would that make it exalted? Or would it have

>to

>be at 28 degrees?

>

>Also, is it true that if a planet is exalted in rasi but debilitated in

>navamsa, this debiltates the planet? What about in dusthana houses? Can the

>status be changed through a change in status in navamsa?

 

Regarding exaltation and debilitation, you would find an answer in the

Shadbala where you would find that the planet has not lost much strength

when it is not exactly on the degrees of exaltation. 1 Rupa is the total

strength, when it is exactly on exaltation and by rule of proportion, it

does not lose much, by being at 20 degrees.

 

REgarding Navamsha, no this does not debilitate the planet, theoretically

but does make the planet weak in its overall assessment.

 

regards,

 

Manoj

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Dear Vox

The theory is that Mars is at full exaltation at 20 degrees .It is still

exalted throughout Capricorn . The theory for the Moon is that it is

eaxlted in the first 3 degrees of Taurus where it is at full exaltationand

after that it is in it's MT sign for the last 27 degrees of Taurus .

One problem with this is that at it's suppopsedly point of full exaltation

it is infancy .I stick to the SA definitions of exaltation and MT which

seem logical.and simple and use the full sign for exaltation and

debilitation and do not ascribe any particular degree as giving more

exaltation .

 

A planet exalted in Rasi and debillitated in Navamsa will give good results

at first and poor results later .A planet which is debilitated in rasi and

exalted in Navamsa will give poor results st first and better results later

..Planets are weak in dusthanas and struggle to give good results even when

exalted .

Planet Exaltation Debilitation MT

Sun Aries----------Libra Leo

Moon Taurus Scorpio Cancer

Mercury Virgo Pisces Virgo

Venus Pisces Virgo Libra

Mars Capricorn Cancer Aries

Jupiter cancer Capricorn Sagittarius

Saturn Libra Aries Aquarius

Rahu Taurus Scorpio Gemini

Ketu Scorpio Taurus Saggitarius

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[gjlist] Exaltation and Debilitation

Monday, 5 June 2000 2:22

 

I'm confused about the rules of E and D. If mars, for example, is at 28

degrees Cancer, it is debilitated. If it is at 20 degrees Cancer, is it

still

debilitated or less debilitated than at 28 degrees? Or does that hold true

for the whole sign of Cancer? Likewise with exaltation. If this planet were

 

in Capricorn at two degrees, would that make it exalted? Or would it have

to

be at 28 degrees?

 

Also, is it true that if a planet is exalted in rasi but debilitated in

navamsa, this debiltates the planet? What about in dusthana houses? Can the

 

status be changed through a change in status in navamsa?

 

Thanks.

 

Vox

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In a message dated 06/06/2000 3:25:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

manojpathak writes:

 

<<

It is indeed a part of it. Shadbala is strength calculated in six ways and

exaltation is called Uccha Bala and is part of Sthana Bala. Hope it helps

>>

 

 

Very much! Thank you! I was assuming from the aforementioned Book On

Astrology For Westerners Which Is Often Wrong that you had to read exalted or

debilitated condition separately.

 

Love,

 

Vox

[Guest guest]

>Manoj, thanks for your answer -- can you just clarify this for me? I was

>understanding that exaltation and debilitation are not included in Shadbala

>calculations? Or is that wrong?>

 

It is indeed a part of it. Shadbala is strength calculated in six ways and

exaltation is called Uccha Bala and is part of Sthana Bala. Hope it helps

 

regards,

 

Manoj

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