Guest guest Posted March 3, 1984 Report Share Posted March 3, 1984 Dear Das, thank you for sharing your understanding of relationships, it was beautiful. Your ability to capture and explain the hilarious tragedy of our human condition is a great blessing. Also, thank you for staying live on the net. As always, with much appreciation for all of your sharing, Pearl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2000 Report Share Posted May 10, 2000 Re what Manu asked: >If a person carrying bad yogas for married life finds another horoscope perfectly matching for him/her , will he/she still suffer from those bad yogas and will not have good married life or his/her partner's yogas will nullify the effect of bad yogas in his/her horoscope and both will lead a happy life. I think that the yogas in one's chart will bear their fruit. But, birds of a feather get along better... so it's important that people be matched for who they are, not who they are not. In other words, biker chicks like biker guys, and knarly people get along best with other knarly people.... And proper Virgos need really tidy guys, and leader types need that vibration...and so on. So it's not that we throw out common sense when we hit Jyotish, rather, we bring the two together. So Jyotish lets us see who is who and so on, but we should still think like we used to. So if someone has problems, without Jyotish you would think, let's find someone similar to them in some way, something complimentary, so that they can get along. Sometimes it's to find some sort of proper compliment, and other times it's finding someone similar. Between these two it usually goes. But in general we find someone similar. So their should be "agreement". Like my spouse and myself both prefer quiet. It's pretty important to not match a loud person with a soft person, right? Many people cannot stand me, and many cannot stand her. So you see, when we're together, we're happy, but it's based on alot of "weird" that we both share and agree with. We get alot of stares, because we're both different, but we get along together. Tons of people really dislike her, but I don't. And lot's of people dislike me, but she doesn't. My devotion to liberation, fixation with death, love of quiet, religion, really intense discussions about bitter truth, and so on, turn most people OFF big time. But not her. So see, God brought together me and someone who matches me, but individually, we hardly match anybody at all. She has terrible marital karma in her chart. TERRRIBLE. But she's VERY MARRIED and is rather happy about it. We're having a pretty good, but rocky, relationship. So that's how it goes. It's our karma to struggle in this arena of life, but spots of happiness and being generally satisfied enough to go on in life is there for us, me and her, but her chart, at first glance, is like, well, really bad. And one famous astrologer looked at mine and pronounced immediately "You will NEVER have happiness in marriage". OK, thanks buddy. I've had tons of happiness in relationships, and marriage. Sure, I've also had tons of unhappiness and angry moments, and frustrations, and so on, but that's how we learn about the truth- through struggle and dissapointment. It's not easy being purified of material desire, but that is what's important. So avoiding all pain, hmmm, is that we want to do?, at ANY price? I think not. Our goals should be otherwise. My oldest brother and his wife appear to fight constantly. But they NEVER talk of separating nor do they say they're upset. It's THEIR WAY. Every member of their five person family, has debilitated Mars. They all act frantic all the time. But for them this is "NORMAL". When they come in, they ask "Where the HELL have YOU been?", and that's considered friendly.... ;-) Personally, I cannot STAND being around them. It's WAY too heavy for me. I cannot find out how to turn my stereo down LOW enough. I wrestle with the line of inaudibility. Isn't that hilarious? But in the car I like it so loud that I wrestle with not blowing out my speakers... so weirdoes need weirdos. That's what astrology helps us to do...match the strangers to the strangers, and the straight up proper good karma folks too. Let birds of a feather flock together. Every "couple" I know has lots of hard stuff to face, usually daily. Relationships are hard work. Those who can love, accept, forgive, and serve, in other words, tend to have better relationships, because they are relationship capable beings. Those who cannot do this, who are only selfish, projecting problems onto others, and so on, they can never have good relationships. So I personally see, without astrology, that some people have what it takes to "relate" to others, and some do not. With astrology, we can see why the extreme ones are extreme. So it depends on the nature of the affliction- how strong it is, whether the person will have SOME married life which is nice, or NONE at all. The people I know who have SERIOUS relating problems, and hence no marriage at all, or only bad stuff constantly, have rather marked afflictions to the 7th or other things. Karma is one thing, but our mood is another. That we can adjust somewhat by our own will. So come what may materially, but the conscious embodied person must always remember that relationships are material in the sense of "having someone" here and now. Our bodies are all made up of the changing material energy, but our conscious selves go on and on. If we are right with Divinity, then we will have no problems, even in the midst of many so called problems. Nobody is guaranteed anything. We have to be incredibly humble to be actually happy. So accepting one's chart, and accepting that life is really for frustration and becoming transcendental by that impetus, we can turn our attitudes to gold, then start giving as fully as possible, to everyone around us, then watch the happiness return in the form of appreciation from others, and this is relating properly- to give and give- then others want to give back. Afflictions to the marital arena of one's chart can be seen rather better as: "Focuses" or "Refinements" of who to choose from. In other words, again, let the birds of a feather flock together. I have a much easier time relating to my second spouse than my first. So I have lived this personally. It's a matter of overall lineups and matching. I am a very odd person, and I'm quite convinced that I am not easy to be around between workaholism and some knarly habits..and lack of desire to be involved in "normal" things of the world that people usually do including farting around constantly, meat eating, not believing in Krishna, and so on, well anyway, even I found somebody. So, nearly anybody can find somebody. That's true on one level. But "happiness" and "satisfaction" and so on, are risky words. We get it somewhat, but never really fully. That's not what life is for, and that's not what this place is best at delivering to us Jivas. This is not a shopping market life. Rather, it's more better seen as a Federal Prison with lots of trees inside. Big deal. It's still prison. We're still here to pay and learn and rectify. Rectification is saintliness or becoming Divine in nature, eternal, transcendental, free from false desires, born of the temporary, and so on. I hope my sharing has helped. 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Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 Dear Manu, In respect to your questins about relationships here is a bit on what my experiences have shown me. \ If one persons horoscope is afflicted in regards to marriage then the others is also, they horoscopes complement each other that what. Even if there are blemishes to the 7th house, etc the people can be happy in thier marriage if the man is possessed of self esteem and the woman is secure within herself, if either one of these are not good then people will suffer in thier marriage when faced with the other person regardless of the 7th house because the amount of happiness a person expereiences in a relationship is largel a reflection of themselves. AN affliction to the 7th house. etc. can indicate the native not getting along with their spouse, or it could mean difficulties happening to the spouse that cause the native sadness, or difficulteis coming into the life after marriage. I find that at least in the US where there are love marriages, compatibility readings can benefit the couple to give them an understanding of what is happeining so that they can tolerate it better, be more acepting of thier partner, and do what they can to try to creatye more happiness. BUt in cases when i have had a horoscope of someone with an afflicted 7th house and an afflicted personality, when they where matcheted with someone they had a good compatibility with, they would feel no attraction. WHen it comes to love, the stronger attractions ussually just have more projection of needs and lack onto a perons who can't fullfil them and so these relationships usually don't give the metnal peace and family life that is condicive to a balanced life. I hope that bit on a very vast subject answers your question to some small degree. Take Care, ERnst Interested in learning more about Vedic Astrology? www.vedic astrology.net - manu smith <manu_smith <gjlist > Monday, May 08, 2000 1:19 PM [gjlist] horoscope compatibility > namaste all, > There is a discussion going on Horoscope compatibity on > www.rediff.com(a very popular Indian site) - In astrology section .Found > some of the points good . A quick question -- > If a person carrying bad yogas for married life finds another horoscope > perfectly matching for him/her , will he/she still suffer from those bad > yogas and will not have good married life or > his/her partner's yogas will nullify the effect of bad yogas in his/her > horoscope and both will lead a happy life. > > ( CAN WE REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THE BLEMISHES IN OUR HOROSCOPE WITH THE USE OF > ASTROLOGY i.e.horoscope compatibility OR WE HAVE TO CARRY THEM FOR ALL OUR > LIFE ? ) > > One more question how much is responsible the bad yoga(Kuja dosha or so) for > the death of the partner . Are the stars/yogas of a dying person mainly > responsible or the spouse star's also play a significant role ? > > Comments are welcome. > > regards > -manu > ______________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ------ > Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. > http://click./1/3020/1/_/913692/_/957817193/ > ------ > > > gjlist- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2000 Report Share Posted May 15, 2000 Namaste all, Thanks a lot Das for presenting your thoughts in such a nice way . It always happens to me that when I loose all my hopes I get something .. When I didn't get any comment on this list , I thought I asked a too elementry question for you gurus to answer and didn't check the mail box for last 2-3 days. But Today when I checked it , I got 3 reply's from das , wonder ful . But Das, still my second question is unanswered ( Question regarding the death of the spouse/partner). Please shed some light on this also. thanks Manu ______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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