Guest guest Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Digest 115, February 23rd, 2005. Answers by His Holiness Romapada Swami Maharaja **You are welcome to send in your questions to HH Romapada Swami at iskcon_dc with the word "Question" in the subject. The soul and the Supersoul ************************** I have a question related to the chariot analogy of the living entity. In the Katha Upanishad a description is given of a chariot drawn by 5 horses representing the senses, the mind the reins, the charioteer the intelligence and the passenger the soul. My understanding is that as long as the soul/passenger is asleep, the living entity is conditioned, as he has no proper direction and undergoes repeated "birth and death" in the material world. Q1- When the soul/passenger is awake and directs the intelligence and the senses, since one is no longer acting on the urge of the unbridled senses, the mind and the intelligence, is one in a liberated state? Answer- Your description and understanding of the analogy is correct, although the soul is not specifically compared to the states of being asleep and awake. When the self directs the intelligence according to spiritual instructions, the Upanishad states that one can reach the destination, Vishnu, who is paramam padam, the supreme goal of life (Katha Upanishad 1.3.9*). Thus, in this analogy, the liberated state can be understood as the destination and the self is on the path towards liberation. Srila Prabhupada comments on this verse: One may drive well, or else one may drive whimsically, in which case it is quite possible that he may have an accident and fall into a ditch. In other words, if one takes directions from the experienced spiritual master one can go back home, back to Godhead. (SB 7.15.41 purport, http://www.vedabase.net/sb/7/15/41/en) Q2- Why is the Super-soul not mentioned in this analogy as the second passenger on the chariot? Answer- Katha Upanishad does mention the Supersoul, although not in this particular analogy, but both in preceding and following sections. Clear distinction is made between the soul, Supersoul and the body in this Upanishad. The Supersoul is specifically described as residing in the heart along with the atomic soul. (Katha Upanishad 1.2.20 quoted in purport of Bhagavad-gita 2.20 http://www.vedabase.net/bg/2/20/en), Katha Upanishad 2.2.13 quoted in Bhagavad-gita 2.12 http://www.vedabase.net/bg/2/12/en and Bhagavad-gita 15.17 http://www.vedabase.net/bg/15/17/en) * The Kathopanisad, 1.3.9, states: vijnana-sarathir yas tu manah pragrahavan narah so'dhvanah param apnoti tad visnoh paramam padam "One who possesses vijnana, realization of the Lord, as his charioteer, and who thus maintains a steady control of the mind, which is like the reins that control the horses of the bodily senses, crosses this material reality and attains the supreme abode of Sri Visnu, who is the omnipresent Supersoul known as Vasudeva." This digest is accessible on the web at: http://iskcondc.org/cgi-bin/renderphilo.pl?digestname=digest115 All the previous digests have been collected in one file at: http://iskcondc.org/cgi-bin/renderphilo.pl?digestname=digest00 To , or change/add your email address please send email to iskcon_dcr Please reply to this email at iskcon_dcr if you choose to discontinue receiving these digests. If you have received the "Inquiries Into the Absolute" digests despite requesting removal in the past, please let us know immediately by emailing us at iskcon_dcr These functions are currently not available at the ISKCON DC website or by emailing admin (AT) iskcondc (DOT) org. - ------------------ ** A brief biography of His Holiness Romapada Swami is available at: http://www.prastha.com/cgi-bin/uncgi/renderphilo.pl?ndx=2 ** This and all previous digests are available on the web** They can be accessed at: http://www.iskcondc.org -> Philosophy -> Inquiries into the Absolute http://www.iskcondc.org/cgi-bin/renderphilo.pl?ndx=132 You can also directly link to our Philosophy website by adding the following URL to your website: http://www.prastha.com/cgi-bin/uncgi/renderphilo.pl - ------------------ This email has been sent to you by the ISKCON (International Society for Krishna Consciousness) temple of Washington D.C. Our contacts are: Email: iskcon_dcr Internet Website Address: http://www.iskcondc.org Postal Address: 10310 Oaklyn Drive, Potomac, MD 20854-3932 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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