Dhumavati

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Namaskhar,

 

Dhumavati, one of the dash Mahavidyas of Tantra, is known as a widow.

Acc to mythology, she ate her own husband.

 

But in practical terms- how can a shakti exist without a

consciousness- Shakti has no existence with Shiv, just as Shiv is

incomplete without Shakti.

 

Were our Sadhus trying to tell us that pure shakti- without Shiv to

guide her- turns towards destruction? Maybe this was a warning to

Tantriks who got Shakti by mechanical excersises, but not the Buddhi

to control it?

 

Even Kali becomes uncontrollable without Shiv- a famous painting is of

a furious Kali stepping on an inert Shiv, which causes all her anger

to melt.

 

But then acc. to classical tantra, Shiv is a witness to everything,

but all the works of Shakti has his silent support. Without his silent

approval, Shakti is helpless. So even though Dhumavati is a widow, she

must still have the silent approval of Shiv, which also means he gave

her permission to eat him!

 

What is the secret of this mystery?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for your query.

 

My two cents on this are:

 

The legend behind Dhumavati's origin says that once Devi Parvati

became extremely hungry and asked him for something to eat. When he

refused to give her food, she said, "Well, then I will just have to

eat you." Thereupon she swallowed Shiva. He persuaded to disgorge

him, and when she did he cursed her, condemning her to assume the

form of the widow Dhumavati.

 

In the form in which she swallowed Shiva, she actually became one.

The Divinity of Purusha and Nari merged and became one. Here Shiva

is there - but invisible. Even in this form, Shiva is there with

Shakti.

 

In the form in which she disgorged Shiva, Shiva is shown lying at

her feet. Even there Shiva is present.

 

Honestly I do not know much about Tantra and would request the

learned members here to comment on the same.

 

, shanracer <no_reply> wrote:

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> Namaskhar,

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> Dhumavati, one of the dash Mahavidyas of Tantra, is known as a

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, "Babu" <baburoy> wrote:

> The legend behind Dhumavati's origin says that once Devi Parvati

> , shanracer <no_reply@> wrote:

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> > Namaskhar,

> >

> > Dhumavati, one of the dash Mahavidyas of Tantra, is known as a

>

 

Tks Baburoy for this informative post....it really helped well to

understand the concept of dhumavati

 

Shanracer, the question is indeed very genuine and difficult. About

the ritualistic meaning, there is not much to add to what baburoy has

written.

 

But from a philosophical way if we look at Dhumavati, she is a Shakti

without direct control by Shiva(Consciousness).  All other shaktis

have well defined shiva with them.  Here in Dhumavati's case, as

explained by baburoy, the Shiva factor is there but hidden in the

womb.

 

   What i feel is that since Dhumavati is manifested to make the

people suffer, bestow widowhood, snatching children from parents,

bringing mass destructions etc....this concept of manifestation

though has a nod from the highest form of Shiva, yet the Vishnu form

of shiva, who wishes to maintain and operate the worlds, may not

agree to her principle.  Hence perhaps, the direct control is missing.

 

   Or we can say, in other Mahavidyas Shiva is controlling, hence due

his loving and peaceful nature, he may not do the destruction

work...and since destruction too is necessary to purify people of

their bad karma, shiva for a moment allows Shakti to swallow him

temporarily and thus making her look like uncontrolled form...to

continue with her strong purging deeds.

 

  What ever it is ...Mother Dhumavati is a very important, kind and

loving form.  If worshipped, she is not only capable of removing our

sufferings and pains, she can take us to the highest state of

Enlightenment

 

  donno...still i feel it is vague reply...perhaps some other learned

one will reply

love

 

baba

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> In the form in which she disgorged Shiva, Shiva is shown lying at

> her feet. Even there Shiva is present.

>

 

The Shakti form where Shiva is lying at feet of shakti is Kali- not

Dhumavati. Kali had been fighting demons, but when all the demons

dies, she was still angry, and continued her destruction. Even the

gods were scared, so they went to Shiva. He lay down in the path of

Kali, and as soon as she stepped on him all her anger vanished. This

represents that in front of the divine conciousness(Shiv) all the

powers of Shakti and her gunas become zero, as He is her master, and

Her powers only exist because of His silent approval.

 

Acc. to mythology, Kali then said that she had so much energy, she

didnt know what to do with it. Shiv asked her to enter the Earth and

come out purified- which she did. The place where she entered is a

famous temple, though Ive forgotten which one.

 

Dhumavati is shown as an old woman, very ugly, wearing widows clothes.

She is riding a rath, with a flag of a crow on it, which represents

bad luck. Whereever she goes she brings bad luck- death, bankruptcy.

But she is not evil- she is merely following the rules of nature which

have punishment as well as rewards.

 

Tantra says she is the sister of Luxmi, and her exact opposite- so in

a way we can say she is like Luxmi. Luxmi brings wealth, but it may

destroy as well as help you. Dhumavati brings bad luck, but the

intelligent Sadhak will use that to learn natures lessons, and not

blame anyone. The Gods are very happy when one understands that bad

luck is due to our own Karma, and not due not malefeance of the planets.

 

Dhumavatis time starts in June -July, and ends one day before

Diwali(thats why Diwali is celebrated- because it represents start of

Luxmis time). If you study history, most of terrorist attacks/Natural

disasters happen at the time of Dhumavati- 9/11 in Us, Kargil attack,

Tsunami in East asia, the attack on USS Cole, the many landslides taht

kill bhakatas near temples also usually happen this time.

 

Dhumavatis temple is is Jwalaji, which is one of the places where

Parvatis body parts fell. Dhumavatis ultimate blessing is that she

will not come to your house for 7 generations- and unlike Luxmi she is

not Chanchal- one she leaves, she leaves.

 

So the question is why dont more people worship Dhumavati(at the

moment only Tantriks wishing to harm/kill others worship her, but they

havent understood the nature of Shakti- like I said Dhumavati is not

evil, merely the Shakti roop that destroys bad karma).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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A small correction to a couple of postings about MAA Dhumavati.

 

1. The temple at Jwalamukhi is believed to be MAA KAALI and not

Dhumavati. The only temple for MAA Dhumavati is in Kamakya.

 

2. Maa Dhumavati is believed ( at least in Assam ) to ward off the bad

effects of Sani in the horoscope. So in Kamakya you will find a number

of people worshipping at the temple of Maa Dhumavati.

 

The conception of MAA Dhumavati is to emphasize the fact that Mother

is Mother in whatever form she is. All Tantriks are basically Bhaktas.

To a  child it does not matter how its mother looks and what she does.

It depends on the Mother for protection. It matters little whether she

is beautiful or ugly, whether she is a beggar or a queen.

 

Jai MAA KAALI !!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, "Sankar Viswanathan"

<sankarrukku> wrote:

> 1. The temple at Jwalamukhi is believed to be MAA KAALI and not

> Dhumavati. The only temple for MAA Dhumavati is in Kamakya.

 

   Opposite the main place of Jawalaji there is a small canopy where

priest do "Ratri Shaiyya" of Mother jawalaji.  On the roof there are

fotos and mantras of 10 mahavidays and a mention that the jawalaji

temple is dedicated to Mother Dhumavati.  The chief priest of jawalaji

confirmed to me that Jawlamukhi temple is Dhumavati's place.

 

   The temple dedicated to Jyesthha or Kali is Chamunda temple, 15 kms

from Dharamshala, toward Palampur

 

love

 

baba

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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