Laxmi- Angel or Maya?

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Namashkar,

 

A questions has been floating in my mind- Luxmi-the godess of wealth

is known as very chanchal- she never stays at one place- she makes a

man millionaire, then leaves him next day. She keeps us on our toes-

her ride is the owl, who destroys our buddhi.

 

Another version says she is the epitome of pureness(esp the Tantric

texts who also call her Kamla). So she only stays with that man who

reminds her of Vishnu- eternally kind, loving to all.

 

But how many times do we see evil people becoming rich, and kind ones

very poor! Karma aside, Luxmi doesnt usually come to pure hearted

people(note:usually).

 

So is Luxmi the Goddess of purity(Satogun) who is ever loving, and who

cannot stay at the house of evil, self obsessed people, or is she the

force of maya, ever to confuse and blight us? Or is she both?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, shanracer <no_reply> wrote:

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> Namashkar,

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> A questions has been floating in my mind- Luxmi-the godess of wealth

>

 

Very good question!  Well there may be two explanations. As per

vedantic explanation Laxmi is the shakti of Vishnu who is operator

form of God.  So he uses Luxmi to run the universe according to his

laws. ...somewhere sending laxmi to serve, somewhere to spoil the

mind.  Even those who are Hari Bhakta, are not served by Laxmi, it is

again Vishnu who controls Laxmi...how much shuld she reach the Bhakta

so as he is not distracted from the path of Moksha.

 

   As per tantrik tradition, Laxmi (Kamla) is one of the ten

mahavidyas, which were manifested to keep shiva entangled as Jiva in

the universe.  As per tatric tradition, Laxmi shakti uses her power

of wealth and comforts to hypnotise the Jiva and keep his desire

alive to remain in the universe.  The real Tantrik on the path of

becoming Shiva, is not allured by Laxmi...but wins her over by his

Tapas, and laxmi becomes his servant....he uses her for good purposes

while enjoying her with wisdom.

 

    Sage Narad once asked Laxmi,' Mother you are so beautiful so

gorgeous...but tell  me why your feet and your forehead have shades

of black, which look odd on your bright pink color ?'

 

  Laxmi replied," son my feet have become black because millions in

the world are rubbing their forehead on my feet requesting me to come

to them.  and my forehead has become black...because I keep rubbing

my forehead on the feet of Bhaktas...to allow me to let me in to

their household to serve them !!!'

 

    Understanding Laxmi, we will understand a little bit of

Maya,...who is alluring as well as purifying both !!

 

love

 

baba

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, "Baba ji" <beirut_ka_baba> wrote:

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> , shanracer <no_reply@> wrote:

 

is there any example of rich man becoming elightened or enlightened

becoming rich?

 

I think Laxmi is obstacle to Moksha

 

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> is there any example of rich man becoming elightened or enlightened

> becoming rich?

>

 

 

Yes- King Janak was both enlightened and rich- once when he was

discussing philosophy, his Mahal caught fire. Not once did he stop to

worry or cry, but he kept talking. When his partner a sadhu asked him

why he wasnt worried he said "Let the firefighters try to stop the

fire- its their job- why sould I worry? Its Gods Mahal anyway, he can

take it back if he wants".

 

Osho(Rajneesh) was rich-but he was still enlightnened. He used his

money to open Ashrams, even a city in US.

 

> I think Laxmi is obstacle to Moksha

 

I think it is the attachement to Luxmi, or even relatives/property

that is obstacle, not the actual money. Why blame the Devi if you cant

control your own mind?

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Lord shri Samarth Ramdas swami was very clear about

Laxmi,

 

He says " prpanchi suvarna ,parmarthi panchikaran"

 

It means Laxmi is very very useful, or say "must" in

material life,while in spirituality instead of denying

use of her, he says "elementisation( putting

everything in 5 elements) which is called as

Panchikaran is must when lamxi becomes useless.

 

--- shanracer <no_reply> wrote:

 

> > is there any example of rich man becoming

> elightened or enlightened

> > becoming rich?

> >

>

>

> Yes- King Janak was both enlightened and rich- once

> when he was

> discussing philosophy, his Mahal caught fire. Not

> once did he stop to

> worry or cry, but he kept talking. When his partner

> a sadhu asked him

> why he wasnt worried he said "Let the firefighters

> try to stop the

> fire- its their job- why sould I worry? Its Gods

> Mahal anyway, he can

> take it back if he wants".

>

> Osho(Rajneesh) was rich-but he was still

> enlightnened. He used his

> money to open Ashrams, even a city in US.

>

> > I think Laxmi is obstacle to Moksha

>

>  I think it is the attachement to Luxmi, or even

> relatives/property

> that is obstacle, not the actual money. Why blame

> the Devi if you cant

> control your own mind?

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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> It means Laxmi is very very useful, or say "must" in

> material life,while in spirituality instead of denying

> use of her, he says "elementisation( putting

> everything in 5 elements) which is called as

> Panchikaran is must when lamxi becomes useless.

 

 

Hello Uday,

 

Can you pls describe what you mean by "elementisation", and how it

makes Luxmi useless?

 

Thanks

Shantnu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear shantanu,

 

Lord shri Gorakshnath has written "sidhdha sidhdhant

padhdhati" .It is one of his many wonderful scripts.

This book is specifically on Panchikaran" which i say

as elementisation.There are many books too including

Lord shri samarth Ramdas swamiji , sadanand rele etc.

 

The human body is separeted in five elements like

earth,water,fire,space and air. Bones

,fluid,breath,they are sagregated in the form of five

elements.Shabda sparsh,roop,rasa gandha.thses are the

panch tanmatras.The person who practises to affirm his

concepts as elementised gets detached from physical

body internally and gets no pain when leaving this

body or while entering into meditation.

 

I mean to say when you physical body itself has

dissolevd into five elements what the money or the

role of Laxmi is there?.The elementisation has scope

upto astral body too.

 

When some one enters into the spiritual world it

becomes immaterial whether he is rich or poor.The

inner world knows only to give up rather than collect

the thing which we understand as in form of laxmi.

 

I meant to say that Laxmi (the wealth) wont make any

difference in spiritual progress and is usefull only

in material life.

 

That was quote by Lord Samarth Ramdas and it specifies

what needs where.

 

In material world Gold(suvarna) laxmi is must and in

spiritual world Panchikaran (detachment)is must.

 

--- shanracer <no_reply> wrote:

 

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> > It means Laxmi is very very useful, or say "must"

> in

> > material life,while in spirituality instead of

> denying

> > use of her, he says "elementisation( putting

> > everything in 5 elements) which is called as

> > Panchikaran is must when lamxi becomes useless.

>

>

> Hello Uday,

>

> Can you pls describe what you mean by

> "elementisation", and how it

> makes Luxmi useless?

>

> Thanks

> Shantnu

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