Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Namaskar Seeking your valued assistance: I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred Bana Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. " on the web. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat! Namaskaragalu, Yes what you read in Sri Jaya Tirtha Charan Dasan's (HK network) website regarding Sri Naramadeshwar is absolutely the tip of the iceberg. First you got to get Shiva Deeksha or Guru Deeksha to get maximum benefit for any worship. However that does not forbid you from approaching the Lord worship. The Lord is everywhere in Lingas to a mere hard rock. If your mind or inner self feels the rock is a linga and worship it with full devotion then Lord's presence will be there. Yes the syambhu or naturally formed Lingas do not need pradishtan poojas to invoke the devatha. Bana Lingas or Naramada Shiva Linga or Kasi Linga has the presence of the Lord already. Rudra centre's Neetaji is a genuine person and I trust her for her truthful service to the Lord and his devotees. Please understand I do not have any commercial interest. The syambhu linga length should not be more than your right hand thumb to base length. The thumb signifies a linga itself and is one of the Aghora ways of meditating the Lord SadhaShiva. Hope this helps! I beg to remain in the humble service of the Lord and HIS devotees. Subham Dinam Astu! Or Have a nice day! Sarvam Sri Krishna Arpanamastu! _____ [] On Behalf Of alstrup Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:20 AM Narmada Shiva Lingas Namaskar Seeking your valued assistance: I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred Bana Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. http://www.salagram.net/sstp-Bana-lingas.html Does anyone know where to obtain such a genuine Bana linga? I saw that Rudra Centre in Mumbai are selling them, but not sure if these are 100% bonafide, as from article there seems to be scriptural descriptions about specific color and patterns etc? Here where I live there are socalled Narmada Shiva lingas for sale in esoteric book shops, they say they get them from travelling traders who bring them from India, some say they are from Ganges and are artifically polished, so is very difficult to know. Most grateful for any further insights/help with this, Ole Alstrup Om </gads?t=ms&k=Om+namah+shivaya&w1=Om+namah+shivaya&w2 =Lord+shiva&c=2&s=38&.sig=-YV8Psc_SjNg-rhHC_AL-A> namah shivaya Lord </gads?t=ms&k=Lord+shiva&w1=Om+namah+shivaya&w2=Lord+ shiva&c=2&s=38&.sig=CM1CfqfChNQwUkIQwJrtCw> shiva _____ * Visit your group " <> " on the web. * <?subject=Unsubscri be> * <> Terms of Service. _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 First of all, shivlingas are shivalingas whether ordinary handmade or Ban lingam. By worshipping any of them with the depth of ones heart, one worships Lord Shiva:) I have personally visited Narmada several times. Ban lingas are usually found in only one place on this earth...Dhavri kunda, a waterfall 60km from Omkareshwar Jyotirlingam. It is created naturally there. It is very difficult to go there as it is surrounded by deep jungles and to hire a boat is very costly, at least by my standard. However, one can find Ban linga in Omkareshwar if Lord Shiva wishes You have to search for it not in shops but amongst locals:)I did found a couple of Ban Lingams from the home of a person staying there, who claimed to bring those from the waterfall. Seeing them I didn't found any reason to disbeleave the person.It had several auspicious OM sign engraved from within naturally. I worship those lingas as Ban lingas. You can be almost 100 percent sure, that the shop in Mumbai claiming to sell Banlingas are fake hand polished ones and not formed naturally by the grace of Lord Shiva Abhijit Sengupta (A liliput bhakt of Lord Shiva ) , "alstrup" <alstrup> wrote: > > Namaskar > > Seeking your valued assistance: > > I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just > read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred Bana > Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. > > " on the web. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Ole Looks like you are makeing the rounds of the sites again trying to continually bash Rudra Center through misdirection and acting like you dont know the answer to something........questioning a group and the adding to then adding the part about whether Rudra Center has authentici items carried on website without due research is simply your way of causeing chaos..........you have been doing this for a couple of years now.....you even started another rudraksha group site and it failed.........you attracted all the negative people and chaos resulted ............ and Rudra Center Groupsite continued to grow with all the positive people.......so since you questioned the authenticity of our Narmada Siva Lingas and didnt read and understand the entire article you referred the members of this group to ........now I have to lecture you on your weak attempt at bashing Rudra Center again Rudra Center does not sell Bana Siva Lingas as you have referred to in your message.......dont know of anyone who has these anymore as this is not the Golden Age.....we dont even advertise them because they are like round one mukhi from Nepa.....in this age of the Kali Yuga........extremely rare and almost impossible to find unless you are risking your life diveing the swift Narmada river........as such the Bana Siva Linga is so Highly Auspicious there is no reason one would be for sale anywhere........so your message again is off base because you didnt even understand the article you referred everyone to read and this is important for people to know......is reasonable for people to know that you have a history of not understanding what you are experienceing or reading or telling others Takeing the information in the article into account there are many types of Siva Linga that are man made and natural made.........Rudra Center sells authentic Narmada Siva Lingas that are man made on the banks of the Narmada........they are shown with many different forms and shapes on the Siva Linga for a reason............any person with a computer can look up the factories on the banks of the River that take the stone from the quaries there and make the authentic Narmada Siva Lingas.........up to 6 feet tall for Temples and weiging many thousands of pounds Bana Siva Lingas are of the Golden Age and as I have said before Swami Dayanand Saraswati has said in his book The Light of Truth that this is not the Golden Age so dont expect things from the Golden Age in this Age........in this age we dont find Round Eka Mukhi and we have not found anyone who has found Bana Narmada Siva Linga If you read the article throughly you will find that Linga means Symbol.......and in this case Symbol of Lord Siva.........todays authentic Narmada Siva Lingas are tumbled or made with lathes out of the hardest crystaline material on earth today and when manufactured in this manner some of the designs mentioned in the article are seen on our Rudra Center authentic Narmada Siva Lingas on our website at www..com The Symbol of Lord Siva is the Linga and the Linga can be made authentic if made of Mud from the stream or of many other materials listed in the article Hopefully you will understand more as you age however you need to go your own path and leave Rudra Center out of your contant references to whether we are distributeing authentic Holy Items or not.........for goodness sake you are an anglo liveing in Denmark or somewhere ...............you dont know anything about what we are doing at Rudra Center and am sure you dont even know that Mumbai is near the Holy Narmada River May Lord Siva Bless you with you some common sense and decency Rudra Center America Siva Rudra DharmaDeva Arya In a message dated 5/10/2006 3:32:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, alstrup writes: > > > Namaskar > > Seekng your valued assistance: > > I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just > read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred Bana > Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. > > http://www.salagram.net/sstp-Bana-lingas.html > > Does anyone know where to obtain such a genuine Bana linga? I saw > that Rudra Centre are selling them, but not sure if these are 100% > bonafide, as there seems to be scriptural descriptions about > specific color and patterns etc? > > Here where I live there are socalled Narmada Shiva lingas for sale > in esoteric book shops, they say they get them from travelling > traders who bring them from India, some say they are from Ganges and > are artifically polished, so is very difficult to know. > > Most grateful for any further insights/help with this, > > Ole Alstrup > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Thank you very much for the reply and information. I believe I have been mistaken in my description of Rudra Centre and their Lingas, as you pointed out, one category of Narmada lingas are in the Bana category, but they have not claimed that. , a.sen73 <no_reply> wrote: > > First of all, shivlingas are shivalingas whether ordinary handmade or > Ban lingam. By worshipping any of them with the depth of ones heart, > one worships Lord Shiva:) > > I have personally visited Narmada several times. Ban lingas are > usually found in only one place on this earth...Dhavri kunda, a > waterfall 60km from Omkareshwar Jyotirlingam. It is created naturally > there. It is very difficult to go there as it is surrounded by deep > jungles and to hire a boat is very costly, at least by my standard. > > However, one can find Ban linga in Omkareshwar if Lord Shiva wishes > You have to search for it not in shops but amongst locals:)I did > found a couple of Ban Lingams from the home of a person staying > there, who claimed to bring those from the waterfall. Seeing them I > didn't found any reason to disbeleave the person.It had several > auspicious OM sign engraved from within naturally. I worship those > lingas as Ban lingas. > > You can be almost 100 percent sure, that the shop in Mumbai claiming > to sell Banlingas are fake hand polished ones and not formed > naturally by the grace of Lord Shiva > > Abhijit Sengupta > (A liliput bhakt of Lord Shiva ) > > , "alstrup" > <alstrup@> wrote: > > > > Namaskar > > > > Seeking your valued assistance: > > > > I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just > > read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred Bana > > Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. > > > > " on the web. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Dear Pradeep Balakrishnan Ji Namaskar Thank you for your most valuable information. I have all respect for Mrs Neeta Ji of Rudra Centre in Mumbai and have been blessed to have obtained her excellent services on several occasions. I had some unusual experiences with small possible Narmadeshwar lingas I bought in a esoteric book shop, felt a strong sense of groundedness, empoverment and feeling more energetically in contact with my surroundings, when I was carrying it around in my shirt pocket. Is it aparadh to carry it around all the time as a talisman? The shop said the one I got is either from Narmada or Ganga, but they were polished. If true, I guess the polished ones must be from Narmada to qualify as Narmadeshwar lingas (?), are these considered syambhu, even though they are polished? Thanks for any further reply, Humbly yours, Ole , "Pradeep Balakrishnan" <balakrishnanpradeep> wrote: > > Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat! > > > > Namaskaragalu, > > > > Yes what you read in Sri Jaya Tirtha Charan Dasan's (HK network) website > regarding Sri Naramadeshwar is absolutely the tip of the iceberg. > > > > First you got to get Shiva Deeksha or Guru Deeksha to get maximum benefit > for any worship. However that does not forbid you from approaching the Lord > worship. > > > > The Lord is everywhere in Lingas to a mere hard rock. If your mind or inner > self feels the rock is a linga and worship it with full devotion then Lord's > presence will be there. Yes the syambhu or naturally formed Lingas do not > need pradishtan poojas to invoke the devatha. Bana Lingas or Naramada Shiva > Linga or Kasi Linga has the presence of the Lord already. > > > > Rudra centre's Neetaji is a genuine person and I trust her for her truthful > service to the Lord and his devotees. Please understand I do not have any > commercial interest. > > > > The syambhu linga length should not be more than your right hand thumb to > base length. The thumb signifies a linga itself and is one of the Aghora > ways of meditating the Lord SadhaShiva. > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > I beg to remain in the humble service of the Lord and HIS devotees. > > > > Subham Dinam Astu! Or Have a nice day! > > Sarvam Sri Krishna Arpanamastu! > > > > > > _____ > > > [] On Behalf Of alstrup > Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:20 AM > > Narmada Shiva Lingas > > > > Namaskar > > Seeking your valued assistance: > > I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just > read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred Bana > Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. > > > " on the web. > > * > > <? subject=Unsubscri > be> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > _____ > " on the web. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat! Namaskaragalu, Dear Shri Oleji, please accept my respectful pranams! Namaste! It is not an aparadh if you have taken your vow as a Vira Shaiva. To become a Vira Shaiva, the right way is to go through a Guru who can initiate you. Then you can select a Linga of your choice and wear it around your neck as a talisman. You have to worship this Linga all the time. Polishing is done so that the linga displays all its markings unlike a Saligram. Whether polished or not polished, if your jiva gets vibrations from the same they are good and ADORE THEM AS AGHORA. Lingas obtained in Kasi are usually Uma Maheshwara lakshana Lingas, where the reddish hue is more and they are thicker. The narmada lingas are little in size but has various formations in color and lakshanas. Hope this helps! I beg to remain in the humble service of the Lord and HIS devotees. Subham Dinam Astu! Or Have a nice day! Sarvam Sri Krishna Arpanamastu! _____ [] On Behalf Of alstrup Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:46 AM Re: Narmada Shiva Lingas Dear Pradeep Balakrishnan Ji Namaskar Thank you for your most valuable information. I have all respect for Mrs Neeta Ji of Rudra Centre in Mumbai and have been blessed to have obtained her excellent services on several occasions. I had some unusual experiences with small possible Narmadeshwar lingas I bought in a esoteric book shop, felt a strong sense of groundedness, empoverment and feeling more energetically in contact with my surroundings, when I was carrying it around in my shirt pocket. Is it aparadh to carry it around all the time as a talisman? The shop said the one I got is either from Narmada or Ganga, but they were polished. If true, I guess the polished ones must be from Narmada to qualify as Narmadeshwar lingas (?), are these considered syambhu, even though they are polished? Thanks for any further reply, Humbly yours, Ole , "Pradeep Balakrishnan" <balakrishnanpradeep wrote: > > Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat! > > > > Namaskaragalu, > > > > Yes what you read in Sri Jaya Tirtha Charan Dasan's (HK network) website > regarding Sri Naramadeshwar is absolutely the tip of the iceberg. > > > > First you got to get Shiva Deeksha or Guru Deeksha to get maximum benefit > for any worship. However that does not forbid you from approaching the Lord > worship. > > > > The Lord is everywhere in Lingas to a mere hard rock. If your mind or inner > self feels the rock is a linga and worship it with full devotion then Lord's > presence will be there. Yes the syambhu or naturally formed Lingas do not > need pradishtan poojas to invoke the devatha. Bana Lingas or Naramada Shiva > Linga or Kasi Linga has the presence of the Lord already. > > > > Rudra centre's Neetaji is a genuine person and I trust her for her truthful > service to the Lord and his devotees. Please understand I do not have any > commercial interest. > > > > The syambhu linga length should not be more than your right hand thumb to > base length. The thumb signifies a linga itself and is one of the Aghora > ways of meditating the Lord SadhaShiva. > > > > Hope this helps! > > > > I beg to remain in the humble service of the Lord and HIS devotees. > > > > Subham Dinam Astu! Or Have a nice day! > > Sarvam Sri Krishna Arpanamastu! > > > > > > _____ > > > [] On Behalf Of alstrup > Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:20 AM > > Narmada Shiva Lingas > > > > Namaskar > > Seeking your valued assistance: > > I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just > read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred Bana > Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. > > http://www.salagram.net/sstp-Bana-lingas.html > > Does anyone know where to obtain such a genuine Bana linga? I saw > that Rudra Centre in Mumbai are selling them, but not sure if these > are 100% bonafide, as from article there seems to be scriptural > descriptions about specific color and patterns etc? > > Here where I live there are socalled Narmada Shiva lingas for sale > in esoteric book shops, they say they get them from travelling > traders who bring them from India, some say they are from Ganges and > are artifically polished, so is very difficult to know. > > Most grateful for any further insights/help with this, > > Ole Alstrup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om > </gads? t=ms&k=Om+namah+shivaya&w1=Om+namah+shivaya&w2 > =Lord+shiva&c=2&s=38&.sig=-YV8Psc_SjNg-rhHC_AL-A> namah shivaya > > Lord > </gads? t=ms&k=Lord+shiva&w1=Om+namah+shivaya&w2=Lord+ > shiva&c=2&s=38&.sig=CM1CfqfChNQwUkIQwJrtCw> shiva > > > > _____ > > > > > > * Visit your group " > <> " on the web. > > * > > <? subject=Unsubscri > be> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > _____ > Om </gads?t=ms&k=Om+namah+shivaya&w1=Om+namah+shivaya&w2 =Lord+shiva&c=2&s=38&.sig=-YV8Psc_SjNg-rhHC_AL-A> namah shivaya Lord </gads?t=ms&k=Lord+shiva&w1=Om+namah+shivaya&w2=Lord+ shiva&c=2&s=38&.sig=CM1CfqfChNQwUkIQwJrtCw> shiva _____ * Visit your group " <> " on the web. * <?subject=Unsubscri be> * <> Terms of Service. _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Dear DharmaDev Ji, Namaskar Thank you for your views about the Bana Lingams. It appears that you have completely misunderstood the intentions of my posting with this. As you may already have read, I have received further clarifications on this from other Shiva Bhaktas on other such as the Om Namah Shivaya and Open Rudraksha group. I believe the intention of Sri Richard Ji's group is also to exchange questions and knowledge about sacred objects and not personal attacks. Having read all what you wrote, I would like to state that I am NOT trying to "bash" Rudra Centre as you claim, so would like to state that to you as CLEARLY as possible and also everyone else. About the lingas, I was yesterday posting to different groups of Shiva Bhaktas to attain greater personal understanding of the finer points of the article, everyone can read these since yesterday on the Om Namah Shiva and Open Rudraksha forum. I am sorry if I could not satisfy the personal standard of your personal knowledge about this particular subject matter. But I am very sorry to read that you seem so adamant on this kind of personal attack on me in this manner, and I am really sorry to read this posting here. Since you yourself brought all kinds of personal attacks on me here, I can understand from this that you somehow still maintain a deep grudge against me for starting a non-commercial unmoderated about Rudrakshas, this after the unfortunate clash we had at your group those years ago. I could answer all of your points in relation to your letter, but I will not do so HERE because what is the point of fighting over the past? This has nothing to do with the Narmada Lingams! Do you know that I regularly recommend Mrs Neeta and Rudra Centre India to friends and acquaintances around the world who have interest in Rudraksha? Do you happen to know that I am myself a customer of Mrs Neeta last year and this year and have purchased rudraksha malas worth many hundreds of dollars from her? Do you know how many Blessings I and my nearest have received through the services of Rudra Centre? May Lord Shiva Bless you with better discrimination and softer heart, All the best, Ole AumShiningLotus (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Ole Looks like you are makeing the rounds of the sites again trying to continually bash Rudra Center through misdirection and acting like you dont know the answer to something........questioning a group and the adding to then adding the part about whether Rudra Center has authentici items carried on website without due research is simply your way of causeing chaos..........you have been doing this for a couple of years now.....you even started another rudraksha group site and it failed.........you attracted all the negative people and chaos resulted ............ and Rudra Center Groupsite continued to grow with all the positive people.......so since you questioned the authenticity of our Narmada Siva Lingas and didnt read and understand the entire article you referred the members of this group to ........now I have to lecture you on your weak attempt at bashing Rudra Center again Rudra Center does not sell Bana Siva Lingas as you have referred to in your message.......dont know of anyone who has these anymore as this is not the Golden Age.....we dont even advertise them because they are like round one mukhi from Nepa.....in this age of the Kali Yuga........extremely rare and almost impossible to find unless you are risking your life diveing the swift Narmada river........as such the Bana Siva Linga is so Highly Auspicious there is no reason one would be for sale anywhere........so your message again is off base because you didnt even understand the article you referred everyone to read and this is important for people to know......is reasonable for people to know that you have a history of not understanding what you are experienceing or reading or telling others Takeing the information in the article into account there are many types of Siva Linga that are man made and natural made.........Rudra Center sells authentic Narmada Siva Lingas that are man made on the banks of the Narmada........they are shown with many different forms and shapes on the Siva Linga for a reason............any person with a computer can look up the factories on the banks of the River that take the stone from the quaries there and make the authentic Narmada Siva Lingas.........up to 6 feet tall for Temples and weiging many thousands of pounds Bana Siva Lingas are of the Golden Age and as I have said before Swami Dayanand Saraswati has said in his book The Light of Truth that this is not the Golden Age so dont expect things from the Golden Age in this Age........in this age we dont find Round Eka Mukhi and we have not found anyone who has found Bana Narmada Siva Linga If you read the article throughly you will find that Linga means Symbol.......and in this case Symbol of Lord Siva.........todays authentic Narmada Siva Lingas are tumbled or made with lathes out of the hardest crystaline material on earth today and when manufactured in this manner some of the designs mentioned in the article are seen on our Rudra Center authentic Narmada Siva Lingas on our website at www..com The Symbol of Lord Siva is the Linga and the Linga can be made authentic if made of Mud from the stream or of many other materials listed in the article Hopefully you will understand more as you age however you need to go your own path and leave Rudra Center out of your contant references to whether we are distributeing authentic Holy Items or not.........for goodness sake you are an anglo liveing in Denmark or somewhere ...............you dont know anything about what we are doing at Rudra Center and am sure you dont even know that Mumbai is near the Holy Narmada River May Lord Siva Bless you with you some common sense and decency Rudra Center America Siva Rudra DharmaDeva Arya In a message dated 5/10/2006 3:32:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, alstrup writes: Namaskar Seekng your valued assistance: I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred Bana Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. http://www.salagram.net/sstp-Bana-lingas.html Does anyone know where to obtain such a genuine Bana linga? I saw that Rudra Centre are selling them, but not sure if these are 100% bonafide, as there seems to be scriptural descriptions about specific color and patterns etc? Here where I live there are socalled Narmada Shiva lingas for sale in esoteric book shops, they say they get them from travelling traders who bring them from India, some say they are from Ganges and are artifically polished, so is very difficult to know. Most grateful for any further insights/help with this, Ole Alstrup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Ole Sort of a well done response........kind of weak........ however fairly well done........... as usual..........I think they call the intent of this kind of message......the poor me drama.....same as before and no different.......you are simply a maintenence issue and nothing more.........as long as people know how you operate through language to manipulate others I am happy to let them know.........you caused such difficulty with our Rudra Center Group by irritateing the entire group we had to eject you and your friends from the group.......has been most peaceful since we started moderateing our groupsite and keeping the energy high and happy.........just understand that I dont believe anything you say or any message you send as you have proved yourself untrustworthy and a troublemaker in the highest sense.....and I dont accept Blessings from people like you ........... since my earlier experiences as a Detention Officer in Federal Detention Center here in the US I have learned how to identify people like you and how to deal with them.........you are simply a maintence issue and if I were the moderator of this site I would be the first in line to throw you off this site also.......the members of this group have yet to experience your chaotic nature so they really dont know about you yet.........they will certainly know about you in the future as you are one of those who can never stop the continual dramas useing learning as an excuse to speak when you have a computer and an entire world library on the computer Your mention of recieving Blessings from Rudra Center doesnt deserve an answer and this will be the last message about you that I will answer on this group site S R DharmaDeva Arya In a message dated 5/11/2006 8:35:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, alstrup writes: > > > Dear DharmaDev Ji, > > Namaskar > > Thank you for your views about the Bana Lingams. It appears that you have > completely misunderstood the intentions of my posting with this. As you may > already have read, I have received further clarifications on this from other > Shiva Bhaktas on other such as the Om Namah Shivaya and Open > Rudraksha group. I believe the intention of Sri Richard Ji's group is also to > exchange questions and knowledge about sacred objects and not personal attacks. > > Having read all what you wrote, I would like to state that I am NOT trying > to "bash" Rudra Centre as you claim, so would like to state that to you as > CLEARLY as possible and also everyone else. About the lingas, I was yesterday > posting to different groups of Shiva Bhaktas to attain greater personal > understanding of the finer points of the article, everyone can read these since > yesterday on the Om Namah Shiva and Open Rudraksha forum. I am sorry if I > could not satisfy the personal standard of your personal knowledge about this > particular subject matter. > > But I am very sorry to read that you seem so adamant on this kind of > personal attack on me in this manner, and I am really sorry to read this posting > here. Since you yourself brought all kinds of personal attacks on me here, I can > understand from this that you somehow still maintain a deep grudge against > me for starting a non-commercial unmoderated about Rudrakshas, > this after the unfortunate clash we had at your group those years ago. I could > answer all of your points in relation to your letter, but I will not do so > HERE because what is the point of fighting over the past? This has nothing to do > with the Narmada Lingams! > > Do you know that I regularly recommend Mrs Neeta and Rudra Centre India to > friends and acquaintances around the world who have interest in Rudraksha? Do > you happen to know that I am myself a customer of Mrs Neeta last year and > this year and have purchased rudraksha malas worth many hundreds of dollars > from her? Do you know how many Blessings I and my nearest have received through > the services of Rudra Centre? > > May Lord Shiva Bless you with better discrimination and softer heart, > > All the best, > > Ole > > AumShiningLotus (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: > > >> Ole >> >> Looks like you are makeing the rounds of the sites again trying >> to continually bash Rudra Center through misdirection and acting like you >> dont know the answer to something........questioning a group and the adding >> to then adding the part about whether Rudra Center has authentici items >> carried on website without due research is simply your way of causeing >> chaos..........you have been doing this for a couple of years now.....you even started >> another rudraksha group site and it failed.........you attracted all the >> negative people and chaos resulted ............ and Rudra Center Groupsite >> continued to grow with all the positive people.......so since you questioned >> the authenticity of our Narmada Siva Lingas and didnt read and understand the >> entire article you referred the members of this group to ........now I have >> to lecture you on your weak attempt at bashing Rudra Center again >> >> Rudra Center does not sell Bana Siva Lingas as you have referred to in your >> message.......dont know of anyone who has these anymore as this is not the >> Golden Age.....we dont even advertise them because they are like round one >> mukhi from Nepa.....in this age of the Kali Yuga........extremely rare and >> almost impossible to find unless you are risking your life diveing the swift >> Narmada river........as such the Bana Siva Linga is so Highly Auspicious >> there is no reason one would be for sale anywhere........so your message again >> is off base because you didnt even understand the article you referred >> everyone to read and this is important for people to know......is reasonable for >> people to know that you have a history of not understanding what you are >> experienceing or reading or telling others >> >> Takeing the information in the article into account there are many types of >> Siva Linga that are man made and natural made.........Rudra Center sells >> authentic Narmada Siva Lingas that are man made on the banks of the >> Narmada........they are shown with many different forms and shapes on the Siva Linga >> for a reason............any person with a computer can look up the factories >> on the banks of the River that take the stone from the quaries there and >> make the authentic Narmada Siva Lingas.........up to 6 feet tall for Temples >> and weiging many thousands of pounds >> >> Bana Siva Lingas are of the Golden Age and as I have said before Swami >> Dayanand Saraswati has said in his book The Light of Truth that this is not the >> Golden Age so dont expect things from the Golden Age in this Age........in >> this age we dont find Round Eka Mukhi and we have not found anyone who has >> found Bana Narmada Siva Linga >> >> If you read the article throughly you will find that Linga means >> Symbol.......and in this case Symbol of Lord Siva.........todays authentic Narmada >> Siva Lingas are tumbled or made with lathes out of the hardest crystaline >> material on earth today and when manufactured in this manner some of the designs >> mentioned in the article are seen on our Rudra Center authentic Narmada Siva >> Lingas on our website at www..com >> >> The Symbol of Lord Siva is the Linga and the Linga can be made authentic if >> made of Mud from the stream or of many other materials listed in the >> article >> >> Hopefully you will understand more as you age however you need to go your >> own path and leave Rudra Center out of your contant references to whether we >> are distributeing authentic Holy Items or not.........for goodness sake you >> are an anglo liveing in Denmark or somewhere ...............you dont know >> anything about what we are doing at Rudra Center and am sure you dont even >> know that Mumbai is near the Holy Narmada River >> >> May Lord Siva Bless you with you some common sense and decency >> >> Rudra Center America >> >> Siva Rudra DharmaDeva Arya >> >> In a message dated 5/10/2006 3:32:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, >> alstrup writes: >> >> >>> >>> >>> Namaskar >>> >>> Seekng your valued assistance: >>> >>> I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just >>> read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred Bana >>> Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. >>> >>> http://www.salagram.net/sstp-Bana-lingas.html >>> >>> Does anyone know where to obtain such a genuine Bana linga? I saw >>> that Rudra Centre are selling them, but not sure if these are 100% >>> bonafide, as there seems to be scriptural descriptions about >>> specific color and patterns etc? >>> >>> Here where I live there are socalled Narmada Shiva lingas for sale >>> in esoteric book shops, they say they get them from travelling >>> traders who bring them from India, some say they are from Ganges and >>> are artifically polished, so is very difficult to know. >>> >>> Most grateful for any further insights/help with this, >>> >>> Ole Alstrup >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Why dont you guys go to Omkareshwar in India & on the way at Narmada Nadi you will come across some shop selling genuine narmada lingams and may you find the light if you already found rather then getting at each other like this waste of time. Finally the msg is Vairagya Go find that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Dear Sir, Pranams Thank you very much for this kind and generous offer! Do you have any photos you could mail me of these lingams? How did you obtain these. What is 3 /4 ? Thanking you again, ~ Ole sacred-objects, "srividyanand nath sricharyanand nath" <srividyanand> wrote: > > dear sir, > pl do not buy ,i will send u free of cost. > > I am regularly distributing to the right person .i am having 3 /4 > NARBADESWR. > > My only requirement is to reach the right person. > > Please send me address. > > -SRIVIDYANAND NATH > > > On 5/10/06, alstrup <alstrup> wrote: > > > > Namaskar > > > > Seekng your valued assistance: > > > > I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just > > read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred Bana > > Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Probably 3/4" - alstrup sacred-objects Monday, May 15, 2006 12:25 PM Re: Narmada Shiva Lingas Dear Sir, Pranams Thank you very much for this kind and generous offer! Do you have any photos you could mail me of these lingams? How did you obtain these. What is 3 /4 ? Thanking you again, ~ Ole sacred-objects, "srividyanand nath sricharyanand nath" <srividyanand wrote: > > dear sir, > pl do not buy ,i will send u free of cost. > > I am regularly distributing to the right person .i am having 3 /4 > NARBADESWR. > > My only requirement is to reach the right person. > > Please send me address. > > -SRIVIDYANAND NATH > > > On 5/10/06, alstrup <alstrup wrote: > > > > Namaskar > > > > Seekng your valued assistance: > > > > I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just > > read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred Bana > > Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. > > > > http://www.salagram.net/sstp-Bana-lingas.html > > > > Does anyone know where to obtain such a genuine Bana linga? I saw > > that Rudra Centre are selling them, but not sure if these are 100% > > bonafide, as there seems to be scriptural descriptions about > > specific color and patterns etc? > > > > Here where I live there are socalled Narmada Shiva lingas for sale > > in esoteric book shops, they say they get them from travelling > > traders who bring them from India, some say they are from Ganges and > > are artifically polished, so is very difficult to know. > > > > Most grateful for any further insights/help with this, > > > > Ole Alstrup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. b.. sacred-objects c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 namaskar, Hello my name is prashant bhaktha and i leave in mumbai. I am also in search of genuine bana linga, i would like to know if you could send me one as well, i would be gratful to you, please do tell me where i can get genuine bana lingas in mumbai if you cannot send me one . regards, prashant bhaktha srividyanand nath sricharyanand nath <srividyanand > wrote: dear sir, pl do not buy ,i will send u free of cost. I am regularly distributing to the right person .i am having 3 /4 NARBADESWR. My only requirement is to reach the right person. Please send me address. -SRIVIDYANAND NATH On 5/10/06, alstrup <alstrup > wrote: Namaskar Seekng your valued assistance: I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred Bana Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. http://www.salagram.net/sstp-Bana-lingas.html Does anyone know where to obtain such a genuine Bana linga? I saw that Rudra Centre are selling them, but not sure if these are 100% bonafide, as there seems to be scriptural descriptions about specific color and patterns etc? Here where I live there are socalled Narmada Shiva lingas for sale in esoteric book shops, they say they get them from travelling traders who bring them from India, some say they are from Ganges and are artifically polished, so is very difficult to know. Most grateful for any further insights/help with this, Ole Alstrup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Dear Sir, Namaskar Thank you for the further reply! Please clarify for me, are these actually genuine Bana Lingas in your possession?? How can one be sure that such lingas are genuine and not polished narmadeshwar lingas etc put there by the divers themselves? Who are these divers, local residents? But you said they do it for free, no strings attached? Where exactly at the river is this done? Please forgive all my questions, I just want to be sure, especially since genuine Bana lingas are said to very rare, but perhaps this is not so. Thanking you again, Kind regards, ~ Ole sacred-objects, "srividyanand nath sricharyanand nath" <srividyanand> wrote: > > Dear Sir, > Namaskar, > > 3/4 means quantity laying with me.I have already distributed to so many > people.you go and select from the water kund.The person will dive in front > of u and will take out at least 20 NARBADESWAR and select one for u and rest > of the linga will be again put in the water.They do not charge any thing but > people pay RS -5/ AT onkareswar.Most of the narbadeswr is from > onkareswr.Ialso procured from the same. I don't have a photograph but > if u have any > specification ,pl forward me. > > > On 5/16/06, alstrup <alstrup> wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Pranams > > > > Thank you very much for this kind and generous offer! > > > > Do you have any photos you could mail me of these lingams? How did > > you obtain these. > > > > What is 3 /4 ? > > > > Thanking you again, > > > > ~ Ole > > > > > > sacred-objects, "srividyanand nath > > sricharyanand nath" <srividyanand@> wrote: > > > > > > dear sir, > > > pl do not buy ,i will send u free of cost. > > > > > > I am regularly distributing to the right person .i am having 3 /4 > > > NARBADESWR. > > > > > > My only requirement is to reach the right person. > > > > > > Please send me address. > > > > > > -SRIVIDYANAND NATH > > > > > > > > > On 5/10/06, alstrup <alstrup@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > > Seekng your valued assistance: > > > > > > > > I wanted to obtain a Shiva Linga for some time to worship. I just > > > > read a most remarkable detailed article about the most sacred > > Bana > > > > Shiva Lingas from the Narmada river. > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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