Krishna´s Jump, And geodes

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I am interested in giving the following article some exposure, or even

publishing it somewhere. Can you think of anything?

 

 

 

I could always re-write it, too, but this is the basic form.

 

 

 

I am trying to substantiate the giant jump by defining the Earth´s structure

as crystalline, and pointing out that a Geode has a rugged interior with

much relief while the outer part is smooth by comparison.

 

 

 

Hari!

 

 

 

Dharmapad

 

 

 

 

 

Krishna´s Jump, and Geodes

 

 

 

Recently, a puranic conundrum came to mind- the one depicting how the

Krishna Avatar and His parallel "brother" avatar, Shree Balarama, went to

the summit of, and jumped off of, an 88 mile high mountain (nothing less).

Now, the highest mountain in the solar system is only 15 miles high- it is

Olympus Mons, on Mars. So either the Puranas are in error, or else we have

to come up with an explanation which does not easily come to mind.

 

 

 

Here is the link to the relevant narration in the form of a summary from

Krishna Book, by A.C. Bhaktivedants Swami, Prabhupada:

 

<http://www.krsnabook.com/ch52.html> http://www.krsnabook.com/ch52.html

 

 

 

The reader may scroll down to the paragraph beginning with "After traversing

a very long distance ....", then at the bottom of that paragraph, the reader

will find that it says: "Krsna and Balarama jumped from the top of the

mountain down to the ground--a distance of eighty-eight miles."

 

 

 

In spite of the preposterous nature of an 88 mile, top-to-bottom geological

feature, this narration´s claim should not be simply brushed aside. The

Puranas were written in a complex and sophisticated language, Sanskrit, by a

culture which was developed in terms of mathematics and astronomy; and which

had a developed calendar system. So why would foolish tales be included in

the historical narrations of this culture?

 

 

 

When the British first translated the puranic narrations, they also had to

confront this claim and others which seemed equally flabbergasting, such as

claims of arrows which followed their prey; all kinds of flying vehicles,

even with the abrupt performance characteristics of UFOs; weapons activated

by mantras; and much, much more.

 

 

 

Well, the point has been made before that much of this has actually come to

pass. The world has seen, for example, the appearance of guided missiles,

UFOs, and voice-activated weapons. So again, we do not want to carelessly

dismiss the more fantastic side of the puranic narrations.

 

 

 

To tell the truth, this 88 mile, top-to-bottom geological jump is probably

the hardest, singular claim in all the Vedic literature to justify, bar

none. All of the fantastic activities and pastimes attributed to Vishnu

Tattva and the demigods can simply be justified by the fact that they are

exactly that- Vishnu Tattva and the demigods. There is even scope for

explaining the fantastic life spans mentioned in the Puranas. First of all,

by way of a negative justification, there is no way of gathering direct

experience of human society on our planet during prior yugas, so how can one

deny, or even confirm, the reported life spans? Conditions on the planet

were presented as having been different because of kala, planetary

influence, and a cloud mantle which protected the surface of the planet from

the more harmful rays of the Sun. Even the Old Testament tells of a flood,

which is analogous to the falling of the cloud mantle; and it tells of a

span of life, right afterwards, of 960 years for Noah and something similar

for several prominent figures of that time.

 

 

 

But how do we justify the description of an 88 mile high geological feature,

which supposedly existed on this planet only 5,000 years ago, according to

the narration? After all, we don´t know of such a mountain, and in modern

times, we can verify every geological feature on the surface of this planet,

especially with the help of satellite viewing.

 

 

 

Or can we? Because definite comments are made in the Puranas about the

existence of an inner world. In fact, the inner world provides the setting,

and is involved with the story lines, of several puranic narrations- it is

not just that some word crops up without a context. For example, in Chapter

52 of the Brahmanda Purana, which narrates the story of the Sons of Sagara,

we find:

 

 

 

“Jaimini said:

 

 

 

39-43. " At the behest of their father they took the horse and made it

wander over the entire earth.

 

 

It was only because of the directive of the Vedic injunction that the horse

was made to go round the earth and not for the conquest of the quarters nor

for levying taxes and tributes as the whole of the earth had already been

conquered by that king.

 

 

 

Kings had already been made payers of tributes by that king of exalted

heroism in the battlefield.

 

 

Then those princes reached the lower ground surface of the salt ocean

wherein there was no water. With great delight they encircled the horse and

entered the interior of the earth. “

 

 

 

Note: The ocean mentioned must be the Arctic Ocean. In the Bhagavat Purana,

it is stated that the Sons of Sagara went in a Northeastern direction in

order to find this ocean. The only ocean in a Northeastern direction from

India is the Arctic Ocean.

 

 

 

And then we have comments from Shree Krishna to King Yudhistir

 

 

 

" You are fit in every way to perform the Rajasuya sacrifice and

become the world emperor, but you will first have to overthrow the

powerful Jarasandha, who has formed a near invincible alliance with

numerous other monarchs. He has extended his influence and control

throughout the middle portion of the Earth and designs on the rest.

He is the biggest stumbling block to your plans."

 

 

 

Culled from the Mahabharata, abridged version by Krishna

Dharma, Torchlight Publishing. 1999, ch. 16, p. 164.

 

 

 

The narration of the Kalki Avatar also takes place in the hollow earth, in

the city of Shamballa, which is still present in the collective memory of

both the Hindus and Tibetans, to be a city in the hollow earth. The Bhagavat

Purana does not go into much detail on this narration, but other puranas

tell that at the end of the Kali Yuga, the Kalki Avatar will procede to the

surface of the Earth and annihilate the miscreants, and that the outer

surface will again be colonized by inner earth inhabitants as the satva yuga

dawns.

 

 

 

The Krishna Book summary does not exactly tell the reader where the Two

Divine Brothers went to, nor does the narration of the Bhagavat Purana, the

particular Purana which I possess. The translated texts only tell that

"After traversing a very long distance …” What if They traversed into the

hollow world? This brevity is not at all unusual for the Bhagavat Purana.

This purana is rather brief with most of the descriptions of Vishnu Tattva

pastimes, except for the rasa lila ones. For example, the Bhagavat Purana

describes the pastime involving the Sons of Sagara in about three verses,

while the Brahmanda Purana dedicates three chapters. This leaves the door

wide open for the Transcendental Brothers to have traveled to the inner

world, i.e., for the pastime to have taken place there.

 

 

 

Perhaps, then, there really is scope for such a mountain on the surface of

the Earth, the idea being that the mountain exists on the inner surface of

the Earth, and that this, in turn, is indicative of where the pastime took

place.

 

 

 

Evidence from the Puranas may be enough for dyed-in-the wool followers of

Vedic culture, but what about most other people? For most other people, the

idea of presenting Vedic authority in order to justify an 88 mile high

geological feature in the hollow earth backfires, and only inclines people

to dismiss the validity of the Vedic literature.

 

 

 

Mother Nature´s own recipe, however, may appeal to the mind of the average

citizen in the sense that geodes are analogous to hollow planets. The

alternative geologist Neal Adams develops this idea in his paper entitled

Dear Geologists: http://www.nealadams.com/EarthProject/geologists.html

 

 

 

A brief reading will allow the reader to absorb his entire idea. In short,

though, Neal asks: “What if I told you that a geode was a model for the

Earth, all planets, moons and even suns?”

 

 

 

At the end of his paper, he makes one last interesting point that we will

latch onto: “Rocks don't have skins do they? Earth and all planets, moons

and suns have skins, don't they? A skin, just like a geode”.

 

 

 

Let´s carry Neal´s logic, his analogy, a step further.

 

 

 

The proportional difference between the surface relief of a geode and the

geode´s inner surface is huge. The outer surface of a geode is comparable to

sandpaper, while the inner surface is comprised of jagged crystals. However,

if this difference is any indication, it allows us to accept the

possibility, even the probability, of huge mountains hanging down from the

inner surface of the hollow earth, almost like stalactites. They would only

seem out of proportion to us surface dwellers because we are conditioned by

our experience, or lack of it.

 

 

 

The outer surface of a geode is quite smooth when compared with the sharp

points of the crystals which jut out from the inner surface of the geode.

And the Earth? The inner surface must have much sharper mountainous regions

when compared with the outer surface, which is more exposed and more subject

to the erosive effects of turbulent climates and forces of nature. Our

mountain chains may seem like merely hilly regions when compared to the

mountains of the inner earth.

 

 

 

As surprising as it may seem, geodes vindicate the Hollow Earth Theory,

which vindicate the Puranic version, or perhaps it is vice-versa. One thing

is for sure, though- the inner nature of geodes certainly offfer

justification for the amazing jump taken by Shree Krishna and Balarama.

 

 

 

By Dharmapada Das/Dean Dominic De Lucia

 

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