Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Do we find any reference at all of the process of Pranapatishtha for Sri Rudraksha in the Shiva Purana, Srimad Devi Bhagavat or any other authoritative text? Are not all Rudraksha beads to be considered SVAYAM-BHU ie. selfmanifested, just like that of Shalagram Shila, and therefore not in need of any life giving ceremony? Usually Pranapatishtha is a pooja done to ask the Deity behind a Divine Power to infuse its own Consciousness into a manmade object, such as yantra, kavach or murti? I am here not speaking here about Rudrabhishek or any other worship of Sri Rudraksha, only about the process of Pranapatishtha. , Vikrant <free_for_blue wrote: > > i wil explain this with one small example..lets say u bought a faxtory made music system but unless u don't tune ur music system for the first time,it may not give u the desired audio output..right..so rudraksh pranapratishtra is a process of energising the rudraksh(in person's name who wud be wearing the rudraksh)..rudraksh energising is done by chanting pranpratishtha mantra's which are life giving mantras and rudraksh Pranpratishtha is a entire process or i wud say a entire ritual which involes chanting of life giving mantras along with offerings like rice,curd,etc and more some more steps involed and all of this is done in a systematic order....bcz its one complete ritual as i said... > > > Cyra Kanga <crkanga wrote: > Vikrant, > Thats exactly what I am asking. What exactly is the > process of pranapratishtra.? Please enlighten. You > also did not answer my other question. Is the eclipse > considerd auspicious or unauspicious? > > Cyra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Namaskar and thank you for your posting.........Yes as we know the Holy Rudraksha is self empowered...........and we also know that Mr Vikrant doesnt seem to be able to directly explain to others what his interpretation is regarding the words and meaning and ceremony of......... Prana Prati Shtha.......... so am recommending going to Sanskrit Dictionary to take the word apart and look up three words that may make up the word Pranapratishtha...........I have not read anything about the process specifically named Pranapratishtha however I have not read all there is to read in the books mentioned.....there may be a astute traditional Indian Member or our good Friend in England who knows and can let us all know the answer to what you are asking DD In a message dated 3/7/2006 11:19:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, satyadharma writes: Subj: RBSC : Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta 3/7/2006 11:19:13 AM Pacific Standard Time satyadharma Reply-to: Sent from the Internet Do we find any reference at all of the process of Pranapatishtha for Sri Rudraksha in the Shiva Purana, Srimad Devi Bhagavat or any other authoritative text? Are not all Rudraksha beads to be considered SVAYAM-BHU ie. selfmanifested, just like that of Shalagram Shila, and therefore not in need of any life giving ceremony? Usually Pranapatishtha is a pooja done to ask the Deity behind a Divine Power to infuse its own Consciousness into a manmade object, such as yantra, kavach or murti? I am here not speaking here about Rudrabhishek or any other worship of Sri Rudraksha, only about the process of Pranapatishtha. , Vikrant <free_for_blue wrote: > >i wil explain this with one small example..lets say u bought a faxtory made music system but unless u don't tune ur music system for the first time,it may not give u the desired audio output..right..so rudraksh pranapratishtra is a process of energising the rudraksh(in person's name who wud be wearing the rudraksh)..rudraksh energising is done by chanting pranpratishtha mantra's which are life giving mantras and rudraksh Pranpratishtha is a entire process or i wud say a entire ritual which involes chanting of life giving mantras along with offerings like rice,curd,etc and more some more steps involed and all of this is done in a systematic order....bcz its one complete ritual as i said... > > > Cyra Kanga <crkanga wrote: > Vikrant, >Thats exactly what I am asking. What exactly is the >process of pranapratishtra.? Please enlighten. You >also did not answer my other question. Is the eclipse >considerd auspicious or unauspicious? > >Cyra > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing Click Here! --~-> To send an email to: <*> / <*> To from this group, send Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Dear DharmaDev Ji, Namaste Thanks for the input. Prana pratishta >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Prana pratistha is the Hindu theological term for a rite or ceremony (Samskara in Sanskrit) by which the spirit or being of a deity is infused or brought to inhabit a murti or cult image of that deity. More info at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prana_pratishta I look forward to hopefully learn more here about the origins and reasons to perform prana pratishta of Sri Rudraksha beads. Satyadharma , AumShiningLotus wrote: > > Dear Satyadharma Ji > > Namaskar and thank you for your posting.........Yes as we know the Holy > Rudraksha is self empowered...........and we also know that Mr Vikrant doesnt seem > to be able to directly explain to others what his interpretation is regarding > the words and meaning and ceremony of......... Prana Prati Shtha.......... so > am recommending going to Sanskrit Dictionary to take the word apart and look > up three words that may make up the word Pranapratishtha...........I have not > read anything about the process specifically named Pranapratishtha however I > have not read all there is to read in the books mentioned.....there may be a > astute traditional Indian Member or our good Friend in England who knows and can > let us all know the answer to what you are asking > > DD > > In a message dated 3/7/2006 11:19:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, > satyadharma writes: > > > Subj: RBSC : Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta > > 3/7/2006 11:19:13 AM Pacific Standard Time > > satyadharma > > Reply-to: > > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > Do we find any reference at all of the process of Pranapatishtha for > > Sri Rudraksha in the Shiva Purana, Srimad Devi Bhagavat or any other > > authoritative text? Are not all Rudraksha beads to be considered > > SVAYAM-BHU ie. selfmanifested, just like that of Shalagram Shila, > > and therefore not in need of any life giving ceremony? Usually > > Pranapatishtha is a pooja done to ask the Deity behind a Divine > > Power to infuse its own Consciousness into a manmade object, such as > > yantra, kavach or murti? I am here not speaking here about > > Rudrabhishek or any other worship of Sri Rudraksha, only about the > > process of Pranapatishtha. > > > > > > > > , Vikrant > > <free_for_blue@> wrote: > > > > > >i wil explain this with one small example..lets say u bought a > > faxtory made music system but unless u don't tune ur music system > > for the first time,it may not give u the desired audio > > output..right..so rudraksh pranapratishtra is a process of > > energising the rudraksh(in person's name who wud be wearing the > > rudraksh)..rudraksh energising is done by chanting pranpratishtha > > mantra's which are life giving mantras and rudraksh Pranpratishtha > > is a entire process or i wud say a entire ritual which involes > > chanting of life giving mantras along with offerings like > > rice,curd,etc and more some more steps involed and all of this is > > done in a systematic order....bcz its one complete ritual as i > > said... > > > > > > > > > Cyra Kanga <crkanga@> wrote: > > > Vikrant, > > >Thats exactly what I am asking. What exactly is the > > >process of pranapratishtra.? Please enlighten. You > > >also did not answer my other question. Is the eclipse > > >considerd auspicious or unauspicious? > > > > > >Cyra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 My personal experience: It is true that rudraksha does not necessarily need pranapratistha, but I have been wearing a protection pendant having 9,10,11 mukhis and parad beads in a 24 K woven gold necklace, and have had my SatGuru, Paramahamsa Sri Nithyananda ( http://www.dhyanapeetam.org/wandering.asp ) energize it (He instills Parashakti into it). After energization, it radiates and creates such a powerful forcefield, it has to be experienced to be believed. I have also had a parad shivalingam energized this Mahashivaratri in such a manner, and when I sit close to it, I sink into turiya/samadhi very easily. So yes, it is certainly possible to empower rudraksha and remove all negative vibrations it may have absorbed by being exposed while wearing, or through touch with the wearer's skin. In Bliss, Sri Antarananda. > > > >RBSC : Digest Number 1333 >8 Mar 2006 11:31:51 -0000 > > >There are 4 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. PGA Initial Voting Results April 15, 2002 > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > 2. Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta > "rudraksha67" <satyadharma > 3. Re: Laxmi mantra > AumShiningLotus > 4. Re: Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta > AumShiningLotus > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 1 > Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:52:56 +0000 (GMT) > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 >PGA Initial Voting Results April 15, 2002 > >Initial Voting Results >SPECIAL SURVEY >Bangkok - April 15, 2002. The "Graha-anukul ratna-visheshajna >parishad", the Planetary Gemologists Association, had completed an >international survey on four of the most important aspects of Vedic >Planetary (Jyotish) Gemology. These are: gem choosing methods, use of >synthetics, use of semi-precious gems, and use of very flawed gems. >Voting is by PGA Patrons & Members from all over the globe, including >very senior and venerable personalities (listed below results)... > >Here are the initial results: > >1. Use of synthetics (lab created) gems in Planetary Gemology ? (total >96 voters) > >10 voted YES or 11% use synthetic stones >86 voted NO or 89% use only natural gems > > >2. Use of natural Upa-ratna (secondary) gems in Planetary Gemology ? >(total 96 voters) > >79 voted YES or 82% use natural semi-precious gems >18 voted NO or 18% use only the 9 primary gems > > >3. Use of very flawed gems in Planetary Gemology ? (total 93 voters) > >16 voted YES or 17% use very flawed stones >77 voted NO or 83% use only fine gems > > >4. Gem choosing methods, Anukul-vad or Pratikul-vad ? (total 90 >voters) > >76 voted for Anukul-graha gem choosing or 84% >14 voted for Pratikul-graha gem choosing or only 16% > >Below is the list of voters. >PGA PATRON & INITIAL MEMBER VOTERS > >Prof. Dr. Mangal Raj Joshi >Smt. Gayatri Devi Vasudev >Pandit Vidyadhar Sukul Brahman >Prof. Dr. A. K. Bhattacharya >Dr. Satya Vrat Shastri, Padma Shri >Chakrapani Ullal >Prof. Dr. Usha Satyavrat Shastri > >Aniruddha Dutta >Anjali J. >Arnav Medhi >Ayyam Perumal Kanaka Sabhapathi >Benjawan Arparpardh >Bhaskaranand Lohani >Bill Kent >Chandra Prakash Shrivastava >Darshan Diljit Shah >Dennis Harness >Dr. Amar Aggarwal >Dr. Amar Gautam >Dr. Bobbi Anne White >Dr. Damodar Lalla >Dr. Khilanath Bastakoty >Dr. Kursija S.C. >Dr. Mahha Dah Sheker Raajha >Dr. Neeraj Lalwani >Dr. Nilesh J. Chitalia >Dr. Nimai Banerjee >Dr. Partap Chauhan >Dr. Randy Stein >Dr. Sudhir Shah >Dr. Theja Hettiaratchi >Dr. Vikram Pratapsingh Bedi >Edith Hathaway >G. Kumar >Ganesh Nathan >Gary Gomes >Gregory J. de Montfort >Hewa Kurumburage Jayatissa Dharmadasa >Hiranmoy Bhattacharyya >Howard Beckman >Jack Hauck >Jai Maharaj >Jawahar Mutha >Jay Boyle >Jayant Gopinath Kulkarni >Jennifer Beckman >Joanne Greig >Jose Zaragoza Lopez >K.S.Thampan Kannanchara >Kanitha Brown >Manmohan Tikku >Meena Bhuwania >Nick Hodgson >Mihir Diljit Shah >Mony Singh >Nand Kishore Jhajharia >Nanda A. Arambewela >Nikhil Lalit Parekh >Orawan Arkun >Pandit Parsai >Panditji Prakash Bharadwaj >Pandit Siddhanthi Nandiraju Purnaiah >Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu >Raaj Shekhar Padmashri >Ramkrishna Dahake >Raj Kapoor >Rajashekar S. Rao >Rajiv Verma >Ramamurthy M. Muniswamappa >Ramiah G. Krishnan >Ravindra K Chunodkar >Ravindrian K.K. >Rekha N. Parekh (Mrs.) >Richard S. Brown >R.L. Gupta >Robert Koch >Rodolfo Ciscato >Roeland de Looff >Roger Perry >S. Subba Rao >Sandeep Arora >S.G.V. Ramanam >Shambhu Lal Daulatani >Sharan Prabhakher >Shikha Jhingran >Shyamasundara Dasa >Sofija Jasna >Sourav Paul >Sri Swami Shyamananda >Stephen Quong >Thiruchelvam S. Nadarajah >Tom Hopke >Umamaheshwar Subba Hegde >Vijay Bharti >Vimal Chopra >Wendy Vasicek > >STATEMENT OF PURPOSE > >The "Graha-anukul ratna-visheshajna parishad" or Planetary Gemologists >Association (PGA), is a necessary regulatory and research group formed >to help unite all genuine Planetary Gemologists around the world. > >Purpose of the Planetary Gemologists Association is fourfold: > >1) To bring order and positive worldwide attention to the ancient >science of Planetary Gemology, one of the 64 Asian arts that >incorporate Vedic (sidereal) astrology, Ayurveda, and elite mineralogy. > >2) To establish high standards of professionalism and expertise as >requirements for membership, which will serve as a guarantee of >integrity and excellence to the public. > >3) To maintain a forum for deliberation into the subtle mysteries of >"Planetary Gemology," and to present these findings and conclusions by >publishing an annual Journal named the "Journal of the Planetary >Gemologists Association." > >4) To serve as a bona fide Institute of Planetary Gemology that >provides "Socially Responsible Information" (SRI) leading to a final >exam for qualification as a PGA (Planetary Gem Advisor). NOTE: A >Planetary Gemologist (PG) is a certified PGA who is also a certified >Gemologist. PG and PGA Diplomas will be awarded to successful >applicants > >http://p-g-a.org <---Svagatam!!! > > >Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 2 > Tue, 07 Mar 2006 05:01:06 -0000 > "rudraksha67" <satyadharma >Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta > >Do we find any reference at all of the process of Pranapatishtha for >Sri Rudraksha in the Shiva Purana, Srimad Devi Bhagavat or any other >authoritative text? Are not all Rudraksha beads to be considered >SVAYAM-BHU ie. selfmanifested, just like that of Shalagram Shila, >and therefore not in need of any life giving ceremony? Usually >Pranapatishtha is a pooja done to ask the Deity behind a Divine >Power to infuse its own Consciousness into a manmade object, such as >yantra, kavach or murti? I am here not speaking here about >Rudrabhishek or any other worship of Sri Rudraksha, only about the >process of Pranapatishtha. > > > >, Vikrant ><free_for_blue wrote: > > > > i wil explain this with one small example..lets say u bought a >faxtory made music system but unless u don't tune ur music system >for the first time,it may not give u the desired audio >output..right..so rudraksh pranapratishtra is a process of >energising the rudraksh(in person's name who wud be wearing the >rudraksh)..rudraksh energising is done by chanting pranpratishtha >mantra's which are life giving mantras and rudraksh Pranpratishtha >is a entire process or i wud say a entire ritual which involes >chanting of life giving mantras along with offerings like >rice,curd,etc and more some more steps involed and all of this is >done in a systematic order....bcz its one complete ritual as i >said... > > > > > > Cyra Kanga <crkanga wrote: > > Vikrant, > > Thats exactly what I am asking. What exactly is the > > process of pranapratishtra.? Please enlighten. You > > also did not answer my other question. Is the eclipse > > considerd auspicious or unauspicious? > > > > Cyra > > > > > > > > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 3 > Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:28:23 EST > AumShiningLotus >Re: Laxmi mantra > >Dear Friend > >Namaskar and thank you for your message.....am not familiar with the >spelling >of these two mantras so cannot comment due to spelling.........the Bija >Mantras you are spelling are ending in the letters and sound....... >eeng......... >and in my learning the Bija Mantras end in letters eem...........example >would >be Aum Hreem Shreem Kleem MahaLakshmiyei Swaha..........am also remembering >that Namaha is found in one Sri MahaLakshmi Mantra instead of Swaha at the >ending of the MahaLakshmi Mantra............ you can find more information >regarding spelling and sounding the mantras at www.sanskritmantra.com >............ >recommending the book Healing Mantras by Thomas Ahsley Farrand on >amazon.com >also > >Lots of research to explain and all can be found on this website and book >mentioned > >hope this helps > >Rudra Center India and America > >DharmaDev Arya > >In a message dated 3/6/2006 4:31:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, >shiv2moksha writes: > > > > > > > > > > > hello Sir, > > > > what is the difference between > > > > 1) Om Shreeng Hreeng Kleeng Hreeng Shrimahalakshmiaye Namah > > > > and > > > > 2) Om Shreeng Hreeng Kleeng Shrimahalakshmiaye Namah > > > > thanks , > > > > > > Mail > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rudraksha beads > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 4 > Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:35:32 EST > AumShiningLotus >Re: Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta > >Dear Satyadharma Ji > >Namaskar and thank you for your posting.........Yes as we know the Holy >Rudraksha is self empowered...........and we also know that Mr Vikrant >doesnt seem >to be able to directly explain to others what his interpretation is >regarding >the words and meaning and ceremony of......... Prana Prati Shtha.......... >so >am recommending going to Sanskrit Dictionary to take the word apart and >look >up three words that may make up the word Pranapratishtha...........I have >not >read anything about the process specifically named Pranapratishtha however >I >have not read all there is to read in the books mentioned.....there may be >a >astute traditional Indian Member or our good Friend in England who knows >and can >let us all know the answer to what you are asking > >DD > >In a message dated 3/7/2006 11:19:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, >satyadharma writes: > > > Subj: RBSC : Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta > > 3/7/2006 11:19:13 AM Pacific Standard Time > > satyadharma > > Reply-to: > > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > Do we find any reference at all of the process of Pranapatishtha for > > Sri Rudraksha in the Shiva Purana, Srimad Devi Bhagavat or any other > > authoritative text? Are not all Rudraksha beads to be considered > > SVAYAM-BHU ie. selfmanifested, just like that of Shalagram Shila, > > and therefore not in need of any life giving ceremony? Usually > > Pranapatishtha is a pooja done to ask the Deity behind a Divine > > Power to infuse its own Consciousness into a manmade object, such as > > yantra, kavach or murti? I am here not speaking here about > > Rudrabhishek or any other worship of Sri Rudraksha, only about the > > process of Pranapatishtha. > > > > > > > > , Vikrant > > <free_for_blue wrote: > > > > > >i wil explain this with one small example..lets say u bought a > > faxtory made music system but unless u don't tune ur music system > > for the first time,it may not give u the desired audio > > output..right..so rudraksh pranapratishtra is a process of > > energising the rudraksh(in person's name who wud be wearing the > > rudraksh)..rudraksh energising is done by chanting pranpratishtha > > mantra's which are life giving mantras and rudraksh Pranpratishtha > > is a entire process or i wud say a entire ritual which involes > > chanting of life giving mantras along with offerings like > > rice,curd,etc and more some more steps involed and all of this is > > done in a systematic order....bcz its one complete ritual as i > > said... > > > > > > > > > Cyra Kanga <crkanga wrote: > > > Vikrant, > > >Thats exactly what I am asking. What exactly is the > > >process of pranapratishtra.? Please enlighten. You > > >also did not answer my other question. Is the eclipse > > >considerd auspicious or unauspicious? > > > > > >Cyra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >______________________ >______________________ > > >To send an email to: > > > >------ > Links > > > > >------ > > > > _______________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Namaskar and congratulations on a job well done in bringing us this Knowledge....and at a fast pace we are seeing........your research has helped us all better understand Many Thanks for your help in this matter Wishing you and Family the Best DD In a message dated 3/8/2006 2:17:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, satyadharma writes: Dear DharmaDev Ji, Namaste Thanks for the input. Prana pratishta >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Prana pratistha is the Hindu theological term for a rite or ceremony (Samskara in Sanskrit) by which the spirit or being of a deity is infused or brought to inhabit a murti or cult image of that deity. More info at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prana_pratishta I look forward to hopefully learn more here about the origins and reasons to perform prana pratishta of Sri Rudraksha beads. Satyadharma , AumShiningLotus wrote: > >Dear Satyadharma Ji > >Namaskar and thank you for your posting.........Yes as we know the Holy >Rudraksha is self empowered...........and we also know that Mr Vikrant doesnt seem >to be able to directly explain to others what his interpretation is regarding >the words and meaning and ceremony of......... Prana Prati Shtha.......... so >am recommending going to Sanskrit Dictionary to take the word apart and look >up three words that may make up the word Pranapratishtha...........I have not >read anything about the process specifically named Pranapratishtha however I >have not read all there is to read in the books mentioned.....there may be a >astute traditional Indian Member or our good Friend in England who knows and can >let us all know the answer to what you are asking > >DD > >In a message dated 3/7/2006 11:19:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, >satyadharma writes: > >>Subj: RBSC : Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta >> 3/7/2006 11:19:13 AM Pacific Standard Time >> satyadharma >> Reply-to: >> >> Sent from the Internet >> >> >> >>Do we find any reference at all of the process of Pranapatishtha for >>Sri Rudraksha in the Shiva Purana, Srimad Devi Bhagavat or any other >>authoritative text? Are not all Rudraksha beads to be considered >>SVAYAM-BHU ie. selfmanifested, just like that of Shalagram Shila, >>and therefore not in need of any life giving ceremony? Usually >>Pranapatishtha is a pooja done to ask the Deity behind a Divine >>Power to infuse its own Consciousness into a manmade object, such as >>yantra, kavach or murti? I am here not speaking here about >>Rudrabhishek or any other worship of Sri Rudraksha, only about the >>process of Pranapatishtha. >> >> >> >>, Vikrant >><free_for_blue@> wrote: >>> >>>i wil explain this with one small example..lets say u bought a >>faxtory made music system but unless u don't tune ur music system >>for the first time,it may not give u the desired audio >>output..right..so rudraksh pranapratishtra is a process of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 this Mahashivaratri in such a manner, and when I sit close to it, I sink into turiya/samadhi very easily. So yes, it is certainly possible to empower rudraksha and remove all negative vibrations it may have absorbed by being exposed while wearing, or through touch with the wearer's skin.In Bliss,Sri Antarananda.>> >To: >RBSC : Digest Number 1333>8 Mar 2006 11:31:51 -0000>>>There are 4 messages in this issue.>>Topics in this digest:>> 1. PGA Initial Voting Results April 15, 2002> Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 >> 2. Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta> "rudraksha67" <satyadharma >> 3. Re: Laxmi mantra> AumShiningLotus (AT) aol (DOT) com> 4. Re: Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta> AumShiningLotus (AT) aol (DOT) com>>>______________________>______________________>>Message: 1> Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:52:56 +0000 (GMT)> Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 >>PGA Initial Voting Results April 15, 2002>>Initial Voting Results>SPECIAL SURVEY>Bangkok - April 15, 2002. The "Graha-anukul ratna-visheshajna>parishad", the Planetary Gemologists Association, had completed an>international survey on four of the most important aspects of Vedic>Planetary (Jyotish) Gemology. These are: gem choosing methods, use of>synthetics, use of semi-precious gems, and use of very flawed gems.>Voting is by PGA Patrons & Members from all over the globe, including>very senior and venerable personalities (listed below results)...>>Here are the initial results:>>1. Use of synthetics (lab created) gems in Planetary Gemology ? (total>96 voters)>>10 voted YES or 11% use synthetic stones>86 voted NO or 89% use only natural gems>>>2. Use of natural Upa-ratna (secondary) gems in Planetary Gemology ?>(total 96 voters)>>79 voted YES or 82% use natural semi-precious gems>18 voted NO or 18% use only the 9 primary gems>>>3. Use of very flawed gems in Planetary Gemology ? (total 93 voters)>>16 voted YES or 17% use very flawed stones>77 voted NO or 83% use only fine gems>>>4. Gem choosing methods, Anukul-vad or Pratikul-vad ? (total 90>voters)>>76 voted for Anukul-graha gem choosing or 84%>14 voted for Pratikul-graha gem choosing or only 16%>>Below is the list of voters.>PGA PATRON & INITIAL MEMBER VOTERS>>Prof. Dr. Mangal Raj Joshi>Smt. Gayatri Devi Vasudev>Pandit Vidyadhar Sukul Brahman>Prof. Dr. A. K. Bhattacharya>Dr. Satya Vrat Shastri, Padma Shri>Chakrapani Ullal>Prof. Dr. Usha Satyavrat Shastri>>Aniruddha Dutta>Anjali J.>Arnav Medhi>Ayyam Perumal Kanaka Sabhapathi>Benjawan Arparpardh>Bhaskaranand Lohani>Bill Kent>Chandra Prakash Shrivastava>Darshan Diljit Shah>Dennis Harness>Dr. Amar Aggarwal>Dr. Amar Gautam>Dr. Bobbi Anne White>Dr. Damodar Lalla>Dr. Khilanath Bastakoty>Dr. Kursija S.C.>Dr. Mahha Dah Sheker Raajha>Dr. Neeraj Lalwani>Dr. Nilesh J. Chitalia>Dr. Nimai Banerjee>Dr. Partap Chauhan>Dr. Randy Stein>Dr. Sudhir Shah>Dr. Theja Hettiaratchi>Dr. Vikram Pratapsingh Bedi>Edith Hathaway>G. Kumar>Ganesh Nathan>Gary Gomes>Gregory J. de Montfort>Hewa Kurumburage Jayatissa Dharmadasa>Hiranmoy Bhattacharyya>Howard Beckman>Jack Hauck>Jai Maharaj>Jawahar Mutha>Jay Boyle>Jayant Gopinath Kulkarni>Jennifer Beckman>Joanne Greig>Jose Zaragoza Lopez>K.S.Thampan Kannanchara>Kanitha Brown>Manmohan Tikku>Meena Bhuwania>Nick Hodgson>Mihir Diljit Shah>Mony Singh>Nand Kishore Jhajharia>Nanda A. Arambewela>Nikhil Lalit Parekh>Orawan Arkun>Pandit Parsai>Panditji Prakash Bharadwaj>Pandit Siddhanthi Nandiraju Purnaiah>Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu>Raaj Shekhar Padmashri>Ramkrishna Dahake>Raj Kapoor>Rajashekar S. Rao>Rajiv Verma>Ramamurthy M. Muniswamappa>Ramiah G. Krishnan>Ravindra K Chunodkar>Ravindrian K.K.>Rekha N. Parekh (Mrs.)>Richard S. Brown>R.L. Gupta>Robert Koch>Rodolfo Ciscato>Roeland de Looff>Roger Perry>S. Subba Rao>Sandeep Arora>S.G.V. Ramanam>Shambhu Lal Daulatani>Sharan Prabhakher>Shikha Jhingran>Shyamasundara Dasa>Sofija Jasna>Sourav Paul>Sri Swami Shyamananda>Stephen Quong>Thiruchelvam S. Nadarajah>Tom Hopke>Umamaheshwar Subba Hegde>Vijay Bharti>Vimal Chopra>Wendy Vasicek>>STATEMENT OF PURPOSE>>The "Graha-anukul ratna-visheshajna parishad" or Planetary Gemologists>Association (PGA), is a necessary regulatory and research group formed>to help unite all genuine Planetary Gemologists around the world.>>Purpose of the Planetary Gemologists Association is fourfold:>>1) To bring order and positive worldwide attention to the ancient>science of Planetary Gemology, one of the 64 Asian arts that>incorporate Vedic (sidereal) astrology, Ayurveda, and elite mineralogy.>>2) To establish high standards of professionalism and expertise as>requirements for membership, which will serve as a guarantee of>integrity and excellence to the public.>>3) To maintain a forum for deliberation into the subtle mysteries of>"Planetary Gemology," and to present these findings and conclusions by>publishing an annual Journal named the "Journal of the Planetary>Gemologists Association.">>4) To serve as a bona fide Institute of Planetary Gemology that>provides "Socially Responsible Information" (SRI) leading to a final>exam for qualification as a PGA (Planetary Gem Advisor). NOTE: A>Planetary Gemologist (PG) is a certified PGA who is also a certified>Gemologist. PG and PGA Diplomas will be awarded to successful>applicants>>http://p-g-a.org <---Svagatam!!!>>>Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.>>>______________________>______________________>>Message: 2> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 05:01:06 -0000> "rudraksha67" <satyadharma >>Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta>>Do we find any reference at all of the process of Pranapatishtha for>Sri Rudraksha in the Shiva Purana, Srimad Devi Bhagavat or any other>authoritative text? Are not all Rudraksha beads to be considered>SVAYAM-BHU ie. selfmanifested, just like that of Shalagram Shila,>and therefore not in need of any life giving ceremony? Usually>Pranapatishtha is a pooja done to ask the Deity behind a Divine>Power to infuse its own Consciousness into a manmade object, such as>yantra, kavach or murti? I am here not speaking here about>Rudrabhishek or any other worship of Sri Rudraksha, only about the>process of Pranapatishtha.>>>>--- In , Vikrant><free_for_blue wrote:> >> > i wil explain this with one small example..lets say u bought a>faxtory made music system but unless u don't tune ur music system>for the first time,it may not give u the desired audio>output..right..so rudraksh pranapratishtra is a process of>energising the rudraksh(in person's name who wud be wearing the>rudraksh)..rudraksh energising is done by chanting pranpratishtha>mantra's which are life giving mantras and rudraksh Pranpratishtha>is a entire process or i wud say a entire ritual which involes>chanting of life giving mantras along with offerings like>rice,curd,etc and more some more steps involed and all of this is>done in a systematic order....bcz its one complete ritual as i>said...> >> >> > Cyra Kanga <crkanga wrote:> > Vikrant,> > Thats exactly what I am asking. What exactly is the> > process of pranapratishtra.? Please enlighten. You> > also did not answer my other question. Is the eclipse> > considerd auspicious or unauspicious?> >> > Cyra> >>>>>>>>>>>______________________>______________________>>Message: 3> Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:28:23 EST> AumShiningLotus (AT) aol (DOT) com>Re: Laxmi mantra>>Dear Friend>>Namaskar and thank you for your message.....am not familiar with the >spelling>of these two mantras so cannot comment due to spelling.........the Bija>Mantras you are spelling are ending in the letters and sound....... >eeng.........>and in my learning the Bija Mantras end in letters eem...........example >would>be Aum Hreem Shreem Kleem MahaLakshmiyei Swaha..........am also remembering>that Namaha is found in one Sri MahaLakshmi Mantra instead of Swaha at the>ending of the MahaLakshmi Mantra............ you can find more information>regarding spelling and sounding the mantras at www.sanskritmantra.com >............>recommending the book Healing Mantras by Thomas Ahsley Farrand on >amazon.com>also>>Lots of research to explain and all can be found on this website and book>mentioned>>hope this helps>>Rudra Center India and America>>DharmaDev Arya>>In a message dated 3/6/2006 4:31:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,>shiv2moksha writes:>> >> >> >> >> > hello Sir,> >> > what is the difference between> >> > 1) Om Shreeng Hreeng Kleeng Hreeng Shrimahalakshmiaye Namah> >> > and> >> > 2) Om Shreeng Hreeng Kleeng Shrimahalakshmiaye Namah> >> > thanks ,> >> >> > Mail> > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.> >> > To send an email to:> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > Rudraksha beads> >> > > >> >> > Visit your group "" on the web.> >>>>>[This message contained attachments]>>>>______________________>______________________>>Message: 4> Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:35:32 EST> AumShiningLotus (AT) aol (DOT) com>Re: Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta>>Dear Satyadharma Ji>>Namaskar and thank you for your posting.........Yes as we know the Holy>Rudraksha is self empowered...........and we also know that Mr Vikrant >doesnt seem>to be able to directly explain to others what his interpretation is >regarding>the words and meaning and ceremony of......... Prana Prati Shtha.......... >so>am recommending going to Sanskrit Dictionary to take the word apart and >look>up three words that may make up the word Pranapratishtha...........I have >not>read anything about the process specifically named Pranapratishtha however >I>have not read all there is to read in the books mentioned.....there may be >a>astute traditional Indian Member or our good Friend in England who knows >and can>let us all know the answer to what you are asking>>DD>>In a message dated 3/7/2006 11:19:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,>satyadharma writes:>> > Subj: RBSC : Re: Rudraksh Pranapratishta> > 3/7/2006 11:19:13 AM Pacific Standard Time> > satyadharma > > Reply-to: > > To: > > Sent from the Internet> >> >> >> > Do we find any reference at all of the process of Pranapatishtha for> > Sri Rudraksha in the Shiva Purana, Srimad Devi Bhagavat or any other> > authoritative text? Are not all Rudraksha beads to be considered> > SVAYAM-BHU ie. selfmanifested, just like that of Shalagram Shila,> > and therefore not in need of any life giving ceremony? Usually> > Pranapatishtha is a pooja done to ask the Deity behind a Divine> > Power to infuse its own Consciousness into a manmade object, such as> > yantra, kavach or murti? I am here not speaking here about> > Rudrabhishek or any other worship of Sri Rudraksha, only about the> > process of Pranapatishtha.> >> >> >> > , Vikrant> > <free_for_blue wrote:> > >> > >i wil explain this with one small example..lets say u bought a> > faxtory made music system but unless u don't tune ur music system> > for the first time,it may not give u the desired audio> > output..right..so rudraksh pranapratishtra is a process of> > energising the rudraksh(in person's name who wud be wearing the> > rudraksh)..rudraksh energising is done by chanting pranpratishtha> > mantra's which are life giving mantras and rudraksh Pranpratishtha> > is a entire process or i wud say a entire ritual which involes> > chanting of life giving mantras along with offerings like> > rice,curd,etc and more some more steps involed and all of this is> > done in a systematic order....bcz its one complete ritual as i> > said...> > >> > >> > > Cyra Kanga <crkanga wrote:> > > Vikrant,> > >Thats exactly what I am asking. What exactly is the> > >process of pranapratishtra.? Please enlighten. You> > >also did not answer my other question. Is the eclipse> > >considerd auspicious or unauspicious?> > >> > >Cyra> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > To send an email to:> > > >> >> > Links> >> >>>>[This message contained attachments]>>>>______________________>______________________>>>To send an email to: >>>>------> Groups Links>>>>>------>>>>_______________Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Jiyo cricket on India cricket Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 Namaskar and thank you for asking a most important question........this one question in different forms has been asked in general specific to the gaining of Samadhi and there is much research that needs to be done by the individual to be able to first sit in the state of Samadhi in order to understand the answer Is going to be a little difficult trying to explain by posting here as the state of Samadhi is gained through experiential Knowledge after one has Accomplished the states of Dhaaranaa...........the ability to concentrate on an object............... that leads one to the next natural state of Dhayaana................... that is the state of Consciousness where the mind is flowing in an unbroken current toward an object..........more on this later however once the mind is flowing in this unbroken current the state of Samadhi will manifest itself withing the aspirant What the books dont usually tell a person is that the object mentioned can be a physical object .........or a visualization ......or a Mantra or series of Mantras There are a number of ways to get to state of Samadhi so am suggesting that after I try to explain what I have found........................ then you go to your Guru for more information or go to internet and look up the works of Maharishi Patanjali and his teachings on Patanjalis Sutras.............The Chapter on Powers......atha vibhuuti paadah.......... and the The Chapter on Kaivalya.......... atha kaivalya paadah There are three stages on the way to Sanyama or One Ness with an object......... or what is described as the perfect regulation of Chitta and Samadhi is only one of the three stages leading up to Sanyama..........the purpose of going to state of Samadhi is so that you can practice Sanyama and introduce intent and purpose at this level to change your life in the relative work a day life So I would suggest that your question be changed to how to do Sanyama with Parad Shiva Lingam as this is one state beyond Samadhi and is a state of Ultimate One Ness with the object of intent and purpose Can only detail to you from what I was taught............. and that is a person first goes to Samadhi with Mantra................again I have heard also that sometime visualizations are used in some Meditation Techniques................ however a person first needs to know how to meditate and attain Samadhi through the first three stages of meditation your question was how to get into Samadhi with parad Shiva Lingam however you dont have to stop there if you wish..........If you wish you can go one step farther and do Sanyama with the Parad Siva Lingam..............one way I can suggest is that if you use the Parad Siva Lingam as the object of concentration in your meditation then you will have to be sitting in Samadhi with eyes open or half closed or totally closed and then with unbroken concentration worship as you need to by deliberately introduceing intent and purpose or worshipping with hymns to Lord Siva Will go through this again in a little different manner............... it is stated in texts that Samadhi is one of three states of Consciousness leading to the aspirant performing Sanyama on an object Again what is not explained in many texts is that the object can be a physical object or it can be a Mantra.............. or a series of Mantras meant to worship your Ishta Devata or other Deities.....all this leading to a positive change in the relative field or every day world the meditator is liveing in.........However sitting in state of Samadhi is necessary for all this to Manifest at the will of the Medititor Samadhi leads to the option for the meditator to simply sit in Samadhi or go to the next level of practiceing Sanyama on an object.....in your case you would be practiceing Sanyama on the Parad Siva Lingam if this is what you wished to do In this place of consciousness in time and space that is called Samadhi is the Field of All Possibilities............ and is the culmination of the process of Dhaaranaa and Dhyaana.....leading to Samadhi.............. If you know how to get to Samadhi through meditation then the meditator deliberately introduces their intent and purpose to this Field of All Possibilities........this is called doing Sanyama on an object with deliberate intent for results and positive change and this is where the 11 Mukhi Lord Hanuman Rudraksha helps the wearer as this Holy Rudraksha destroys the obstacles to Meditation and helps with the yogic practices By doing this practice of meditation the meditator initiates Sanyama on the object of choice...................... this choice can be the Accomplishment of the Siddhis and Riddhis as mentioned in the Holy Books.........and this is also where the 8 Mukhi Lord Ganesha Rudraksha helps the meditator to move and remove all obstacles on all levels of existence This Field of All Possibilities that can be called the Unified Field in Physics is also the state of Consciousness from where the missiles are thrown........ Missiles that are the Mantras......... that are the Energy Forms of the Devas..... as described in the Ramayana Balakanda and Vasisthas Dhanurveda Samhita If you wish to read more about the Missiles given to Lord Rama for Protection as mentioned in the Ramayana Balakanda you can read the book Vasisthas Dhanurveda Samhita in chapters named Weapons........... and Purification of Weapons by Hymns................. and Paasupataastra..........These books will explain the Mantra Science of throwing and warding off missiles for protection and the good of all concerned To go over this again..............Maharishi Patanjali Teaches clearly states that in order to do Samyama there are three stages of consciousness one must first atttain........Samadhi is only one part of the three first in meditation there is Dhaaranaa or the ability to concentrate on an object and this is where the One Mukhi Rudraksha and the 11 Mukhi Rudraksha and 8 Mukhi Rudraksha helps the wearer to maintain the ability to concentrate on the object selected Once the ability to concentrate on an object without interruption is Accomplished this leads naturally to the state of Dhyaana where the mind is locked into flowing toward that object in an unbroken current.........an unbroken current that is not interrupted by any other thoughts........pairs of the 3 Mukhi Lord Agni Rudraksha and 5 Mukhi Kaalagni Rudraksha help in this process as these two Holy Beads are credited with destroying past and present Karma that would interfer with the unbroken current of thought.........the 3 Mukhi by burning away the thoughts that might break the concentration and the 5 Mukhi Guru Bead that continually works to calm the fire as the Karma is burned Once the process of Dhyaana is Accomplished the aspirant will naturally gain a state of Samadhi or One Ness with the object of concentration........ and again in your case this would be One Ness with the Parad Siva Lingam and all that it represents As different people will have different techniques to help you with your wanting to sit in Samadhi with the Parad Siva Lingam ..............I am hopeing this explanation here helps to clarify a part of Mantra Science that combines Meditation with Rudraksha and other Holy Items to Accomplish in an accelerated manner for the good of all concerned Wishing you and Family the Best Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum Dhanyavaad cha Pranams Rudra Center America DharnmaDev Arya In a message dated 3/11/2006 8:34:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, free_for_blue writes: pls tel us in detail how u get into samadhi with parad shivalingam ... 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