Ratna Dana Vidhi: Gomeda to leper, Yellow Sapp to Brahmin, etc.

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I cant help but have some questions, if any one can

care to answer.

 

1. Why do we have to wait till saturday and donate a

orange gem or a coconut to a leper, we can as well

give some useful thing to a leper when he needs

something. Will Rahu keep track of all the details on

how we donated things to people, I only think god

keeps track of our good things, how we raise to an

occasion and help others rather than saturday and

orange gem.

 

Om namah shivaya,

Divakar.

 

--- Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

 

> Dear Swee,

>

> Namaste!!! It is more than just a gomeda to a leper.

> The exact process

> of "pleasing" Rahu (which can only happen when our

> karma permits) is as

> follows (note...there is some interesting info AFTER

> the mantras):

>

> Propitiation of Rahu (Saturday)

>

> CHARITY: Donate a hessonite or another fine orange

> gem, a coconut, old

> coins or coal to a leper on Saturday.

>

> FASTING: On the first Saturday of the waxing moon,

> especially during

> major or minor Rahu periods.

>

> MANTRA: To be chanted on Saturday, two hours after

> sunset, especially

> during major or minor Rahu periods:

>

> Rahva-astottara-shata-nama-vali

>

> (The 108 names of Rahu)

>

> Om rahave namah

> Om saumhikeyaya namah

> Om vidhuntudaya namah

> Om surashatrave namah

> Om tamase namah

> Om phanine namah

> Om gargyaynapa namah

> Om surapye namah

> Om nibajimutasamkashaya namah

> Om caturbhujava namah

> Om khangakhetaka-dharine namah

> Om varadayakahastakaya namah

> Om shulayudhaya namah

> Om megha-varnaya namah

> Om krishna-dhvajapatakavate namah

> Om dakshinashamukharathaya namah

> Om tikshnadamshtakarallakaya namah

> Om shupokarasansthaya namah

> Om gomedha-bharana-priyaya namah

> Om mashapriyaya namah

> Om kashyaparshinandanaya namah

> Om bhujageshvaraya namah

> Om ulkapatayitre namah

> Om shuline namah

> Om nidhipaya namah

> Om krishna-sarpa-raje namah

> Om vishajvalavrita ' asyaya addhashariraya namah

> Om shatravapradaya namah

> Om ravindubhikaraya namah

> Om chaya-svarupine namah

> Om kathinangakaya namah

> Om dvishacchatracchedakaya namah

> Om karallasyaya namah

> Om bhayamkaraya namah

> Om krura-karmane namah

> Om tamo-rupaya namah

> Om shyam-atmane namah

> Om nila-lohitaya namah

> Om kiritine namah

> Om nilavasanaya namah

> Om sanisamntavartmagaya namah

> Om candala-varnaya namah

> Om ashvyriksa-bhavaya namah

> Om mesha-bhavaya namah

> Om shanivat-phaladaya namah

> Om shuraya namah

> Om apasavyagataye namah

> Om uparagakagaya namah

> Om soma-surya-cchavivimardakaya namah

> Om nila-pushpa-viharaya namah

> Om graha-shreshthaya namah

> Om ashtama-grahaya namah

> Om kabamdhamatradehaya namah

> Om yatudhanakulodbhavaya namah

> Om govinda-vara-patraya namah

> Om deva-jati-pravishtakaya namah

> Om kruraya namah

> Om gharaya namah

> Om shanir-mitraya namah

> Om shukra-mitraya namah

> Om agocaraya namah

> Om mani ganga-snanadatre' namah

> Om svagrihe' pravaladhyadaya namah

> Om sad-grihe'anyabaladhrite' namah

> Om caturthe matri-nashakaya namah

> Om candrayukte candalajati sihmajanmane rajyadatre

> namah

> Om mahakayaya namah

> Om janma-kartre' namah

> Om vidhuripave' namah

> Om madakajnanadaya namah

> Om janmakanyarajyadatre' namah

> Om janmahanidaya namah

> Om navame pitrihantre' namah

> Om pancame' shokadayakaya namah

> Om dhyune' kalatrahantre' namah

> Om saptame kalahapradaya namah

> Om shashthe' vittadatre' namah

> Om caturthe' vairadayaka namah

> Om navame' papadatre' namah

> Om dashame shokadayakaya namah

> Om adau yashah pradatre' namah

> Om ante vairapradayakaya namah

> Om kalatmane' namah

> Om gocaracaraya namah

> Om ghane' kakutpradaya namah

> Om pancame' ghishanashringadaya namah

> Om svarbhanave' namah

> Om baline' namah

> Om maha-saukhya-pradayine' namah

> Om chandra-vairine namah

> Om shashvataya namah

> Om surashatrave' namah

> Om papagrahaya namah

> Om shambhavaya namah

> Om pujyakaya namah

> Om patirapuranaya namah

> Om paithinasakulodbhavaya bhakta-rakshaya namah

> Om rahu-murtaye' namah

> Om sarva-bhishta-phala-pradaya namah

> Om dirghaya namah

> Om krishnaya namah

> Om atanave' namah

> Om vishnu-netraraye' namah

> Om devaya namah

> Om danavaya namah.

> Rahu seed mantra: Om bhram bhrim bhraum sah rahave

> namah.

>

> RESULT: The planetary deity Rahu is pleased granting

> victory over

> enemies, favour from the King or government, and

> reduction in diseases

> caused by Rahu.

>

> I not only in doing this kind of yajna or

> graha-shanta, but I

> advise Royalty, heads of state, Bank Presidents, and

> VVIPs to do it

> also.

>

> In case of pleasing Jupiter the gem would be Yellow

> Sapphire or topaz

> to be given to a brahmin on Guruvar at late

> afternoon during Shukla

> paksha, along with all the other items and mantras

> listed for Guru.

>

> And for pleasing Rahu it is giving a Gomeda to a

> leper as described

> above. Another example is to please Mars one gives a

> red coral to a

> Sannyasi, to please Saturn a blue sapphire and black

> cow given to a

> "poor young man" on Shanivar, etc.

>

> I have seen these different graha yajnas performed

> for many different

> planets, and always with obvious results. In fact,

> the last time I

> helped arrange one such yajna was for a lady in

> America who was in Rahu

> Dasha and had Rahu debilitated in the 8th house. I

> advised the Rahu

> Yajna or Ratna arpana to please Rahu. She already

> had a fine Gomeda

> weighing 7 carats, but she couldn't find a leper to

> give it to in the

> USA. So I told her to send the gem to me, and I

> would arrange it.

> According I got the gomeda, and with a desire to

> participate in the

> Rahu ratna arpana myself, I had it set in silver and

> put with a silver

> chain. I was ready, but, alas, in Bangkok, Thailand

> you cannot find a

> single leper. So I sent the gem set with chain by

> hand to a friend in

> Mumbai. This friend also had Rahu in the 8th and

> also wanted to

> participate in the Rahu Yajna by actually finding a

> leper and giving

> them the gem set pendant over their necks on a

> chain. This person

> waited until Shukla Paksha Shanivar and then went

> and gave the Rahu

> ratna talisman to a real leper, and said, Om ram

> rahave namah!" They

> took a picture of when giving to the leper. The

> whole thing took about

> 4 months to complete (from when the Gomeda was sent

> to me until it got

> given to a leper).

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Divakar-ji, highly Insightful Observation. Good point. Great wisdom.

 

But they were only going by Jyotish holy texts and guidelines.

 

 

 

, Divakara Tanjore

<div_tan wrote:

>

> I cant help but have some questions, if any one can

> care to answer.

>

> 1. Why do we have to wait till saturday and donate a

> orange gem or a coconut to a leper, we can as well

> give some useful thing to a leper when he needs

> something. Will Rahu keep track of all the details on

> how we donated things to people, I only think god

> keeps track of our good things, how we raise to an

> occasion and help others rather than saturday and

> orange gem.

>

> Om namah shivaya,

> Divakar.

[Guest guest]

another fine orange gem, a coconut, oldcoins or coal to a leper on

Saturday.FASTING: On the first Saturday of the waxing moon, especially

duringmajor or minor Rahu periods.MANTRA: To be chanted on Saturday, two hours

after sunset, especiallyduring major or minor Rahu

periods:Rahva-astottara-shata-nama-vali(The 108 names of Rahu)Om rahave namahOm

saumhikeyaya namahOm vidhuntudaya namahOm surashatrave namahOm tamase namahOm

phanine namahOm gargyaynapa namahOm surapye namahOm nibajimutasamkashaya

namahOm caturbhujava namahOm khangakhetaka-dharine namahOm varadayakahastakaya

namahOm shulayudhaya namahOm megha-varnaya namahOm krishna-dhvajapatakavate

namahOm dakshinashamukharathaya namahOm tikshnadamshtakarallakaya namahOm

shupokarasansthaya namahOm gomedha-bharana-priyaya namahOm mashapriyaya namahOm

kashyaparshinandanaya namahOm bhujageshvaraya

namahOm ulkapatayitre namahOm shuline namahOm nidhipaya namahOm

krishna-sarpa-raje namahOm vishajvalavrita ' asyaya addhashariraya namahOm

shatravapradaya namahOm ravindubhikaraya namahOm chaya-svarupine namahOm

kathinangakaya namahOm dvishacchatracchedakaya namah Om karallasyaya namahOm

bhayamkaraya namahOm krura-karmane namahOm tamo-rupaya namahOm shyam-atmane

namahOm nila-lohitaya namahOm kiritine namahOm nilavasanaya namahOm

sanisamntavartmagaya namahOm candala-varnaya namahOm ashvyriksa-bhavaya namahOm

mesha-bhavaya namahOm shanivat-phaladaya namah Om shuraya namahOm apasavyagataye

namahOm uparagakagaya namahOm soma-surya-cchavivimardakaya namahOm

nila-pushpa-viharaya namahOm graha-shreshthaya namahOm ashtama-grahaya namahOm

kabamdhamatradehaya namahOm yatudhanakulodbhavaya namahOm govinda-vara-patraya

namahOm deva-jati-pravishtakaya

namahOm kruraya namahOm gharaya namahOm shanir-mitraya namahOm shukra-mitraya

namahOm agocaraya namahOm mani ganga-snanadatre' namahOm svagrihe'

pravaladhyadaya namahOm sad-grihe'anyabaladhrite' namahOm caturthe

matri-nashakaya namahOm candrayukte candalajati sihmajanmane rajyadatre namahOm

mahakayaya namahOm janma-kartre' namahOm vidhuripave' namahOm madakajnanadaya

namahOm janmakanyarajyadatre' namahOm janmahanidaya namahOm navame pitrihantre'

namahOm pancame' shokadayakaya namahOm dhyune' kalatrahantre' namahOm saptame

kalahapradaya namahOm shashthe' vittadatre' namahOm caturthe' vairadayaka

namahOm navame' papadatre' namahOm dashame shokadayakaya namahOm adau yashah

pradatre' namahOm ante vairapradayakaya namahOm kalatmane' namahOm gocaracaraya

namahOm ghane' kakutpradaya namahOm pancame' ghishanashringadaya namahOm

svarbhanave' namahOm baline'

namahOm maha-saukhya-pradayine' namahOm chandra-vairine namahOm shashvataya

namahOm surashatrave' namahOm papagrahaya namahOm shambhavaya namahOm pujyakaya

namahOm patirapuranaya namahOm paithinasakulodbhavaya bhakta-rakshaya namahOm

rahu-murtaye' namah Om sarva-bhishta-phala-pradaya namahOm dirghaya namahOm

krishnaya namahOm atanave' namah Om vishnu-netraraye' namahOm devaya namahOm

danavaya namah.Rahu seed mantra: Om bhram bhrim bhraum sah rahave namah.RESULT:

The planetary deity Rahu is pleased granting victory overenemies, favour from

the King or government, and reduction in diseasescaused by Rahu.I not only

in doing this kind of yajna or graha-shanta, but Iadvise Royalty,

heads of state, Bank Presidents, and VVIPs to do italso. In case of pleasing

Jupiter the gem would be Yellow Sapphire or topazto be given to a brahmin on

Guruvar at late afternoon

during Shuklapaksha, along with all the other items and mantras listed for Guru.

And for pleasing Rahu it is giving a Gomeda to a leper as describedabove.

Another example is to please Mars one gives a red coral to aSannyasi, to please

Saturn a blue sapphire and black cow given to a"poor young man" on Shanivar,

etc.I have seen these different graha yajnas performed for many

differentplanets, and always with obvious results. In fact, the last time

Ihelped arrange one such yajna was for a lady in America who was in RahuDasha

and had Rahu debilitated in the 8th house. I advised the RahuYajna or Ratna

arpana to please Rahu. She already had a fine Gomedaweighing 7 carats, but she

couldn't find a leper to give it to in theUSA. So I told her to send the gem to

me, and I would arrange it.According I got the gomeda, and with a desire to

participate in theRahu ratna arpana myself, I had it set in silver and put with

a

silverchain. I was ready, but, alas, in Bangkok, Thailand you cannot find

asingle leper. So I sent the gem set with chain by hand to a friend inMumbai.

This friend also had Rahu in the 8th and also wanted toparticipate in the Rahu

Yajna by actually finding a leper and givingthem the gem set pendant over their

necks on a chain. This personwaited until Shukla Paksha Shanivar and then went

and gave the Rahuratna talisman to a real leper, and said, Om ram rahave

namah!" Theytook a picture of when giving to the leper. The whole thing took

about4 months to complete (from when the Gomeda was sent to me until it

gotgiven to a leper).Result: For my little part I played in pleasing Rahu by

participatingin this ratna dana I was rewarded with a real Valampuri Lakshmi

Conchthat I had been seeking for 30 years, and I got it without even askingor

knowing within ONE WEEK of the Rahu Ratna Dana. Now, it didn't takeaway my

karma,

no one can take away your karma, if we change our karma,that is also our karma.

So it was ripe for me to please Rahu, and theresult was sudden and surprising,

including other signs of increasedgood fortune too, and for all concerned.We

all know that "ratna-dana-vidhi" has suggested donating gems toplease

Grahadevas. And it was in Graha Gochar Jyotish that I could findthe further

details of complete yajna-japa-recepient, which aredifferent for each

planet.For complete information on Ratna Dana, please see this page of my

1995book:http://www.agt-gems.com/Book/Appendage/Appendage.htmlNote: I

transliterated the 108 slokas for each planet, although Ididn't use diacritical

fonts, that would be better still.Best rgds,Richard--- In

sacred-objects, "Swee Chan" <swee wrote:>> Jaya

Jagannatha>

> > > Dear Richard and Arjun,> > Namaste> > > > I do not to donating

a gomeda to a leper. Do you? What's hegoing> to do? Take away your bad karma on

your behalf when he himself isriddled> with disease?> > We need to be more

realistic here. The Puranas do not tosuch> remedies. Instead, they do

suggest dakshina to a Brahmana/Purohit.This is> so that we hope the

Brahmana/Purohit can take away some of our badkarma.> This can be done in one

of several ways: When transits are averse orjust> before the person dies/or

during a shraddha.> > My suggestion is that, gifts (of gems and other items)

have to benew and> not your cast offs.> > > > Regarding the slokas sent by

Richard (embedded below), these are myinitial> thoughts:>

> > > The language is not ancient Sanskrit where there was less tendency

ofusing> synonyms there (an opinion after reading tomes of it; but am

noexpert!!)> > The slokas are more modern phenomenon to use words like

"Avaneya". Itis> interesting to note that midway in the first line of shloka 81

theauthor> has forgotten that he is writing for Viguna graha Dharanaa.

Certainlynot> something the ancients would do! I venture a guess that this

comesfrom> Jaina source of astrological texts which are of a much later

origin.Gaurav,> what do you think?> > > > But there does not appear to be any

variance about the ratnas thatneed to> be worn from that of Narada Purana as

long as we relate the Ratnaswhich are> recommended for Dana as they relate to

the grahas. > > > > What is in variance is in

the matter of those that need to be worn.> > > > A careful look indicates that

the shlokas are describing Viguna -meaning> that when the grahas are inimical -

for example, Jupiter is malefic> (functional malefic), the recommendation is to

wear Pearl. For Cancerlagna> Jupiter will be malefic being the 6th moolatrikona

lord, and here> strengthening Moon will certainly make sense as Jupiter is going

tocreate> health problems and also since Moon does not own any bad house. Moreso

if> Jupiter is occupying the 8th House!> > > > In the 3rd sloka, the author

appears to have changed the basis onwhich he's> written the first two shlokas.>

> > > For the meaning to be clear, one must also get the shlokas, thatindicate>

what is Viguna. I assume that it must be given the book. Much woulddepend> on

which

position of a graha or its rasi is called as Viguna.> > > > Love,> > Swee> > >

> > > > > > > > > >

vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] On

Behalf Of panditarjun2004> Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:28 AM> To:

vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] Re: Translation of

slokas from Mani Malaon> Planetary G...> > > > namaste richard ji> > > > the

simple rule of anukul/pratikul remedies are clear like this.> > > > retain or

wear the objects of a beneficial planet.> > donate or throw in water the

objects of a malefic planet.> > > > in lalkitab system of

remedies, this is what is followed precisely.> > > > after years of research

through lalkitab remedies, i found stones > > would work positively only if

those planets are beneficial to the > > native in a chart. when the planets

are malefic, since natives > > cannot afford donating precious stones, they can

donate objects > > related to those malefic planets. this is where lalkitab

comes > > handy.> > > > i do not agree with gauravji's observation that if you

wear a pearn > > for moon, besides moon, jupiter would also be benefited and at

the > > same time mars gets debilitated. in my knowledge stones have > >

scientific properties and their single objective is to > > receive/absorb the

cosmic energies of the respective planets. > > simply put, if you wear

a stone for a particular planet, if that > > planet is a benefic the native gets

positive results, and if that > > planet is malefic, the native gets negative

results.> > > > because of these ambivalence in stone recommendations, i

recommend > > rudraksha as several puranas attribute lords to each rudaksha and

> > also attribute what benefits the wearer gets. no anukul, no > > pratikul.

also it has no negative affects.> > > > with best wishes> > arjun> > --- In

vedic astrology, "Richard Shaw-Brown II" > > <rsbj66@> wrote:>

> > > > > Dear Sriman,> > > > > > The translations of Mani Mala by Tagore -

Verses 79-81 are > > correct. I have uploaded the > > > original Sanskrit texts

to the PHOTOS section of this group for > > anyone to check.> > > > > > Verses

80-81 make no sense. Therefore it appears that Mani Mala is > > an imperfect

source > > > of gem knowledge. And it should not be followed as is.> > > > > >

One thing interesting is that books on Indian gemology, like Mani > > Mala,

they only talk > > > about adverse planets. And they never mention what to do

for > > Anukul planets (which is > > > obviously to wear the gem for the Anukul

graha, viz., Anukula-> > vad)!??> > > > > > Point is that for Pratikul Graha we

DONATE the gem (ratna-arpana), > > and for Anukul Graha > > > we WEAR the gem.

Based on the philosophy that gems strengthen > > their plant when worn, > > >

and

reduce their planet when donated. One is accepting, other is > > giving away.> >

> > > > Best rgds,> > > Richard> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, yobrevol@ wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > ||

Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > > Namaste Richard Ji,> > > > > > > > So

they are actually correct. Please understand that my > > reservations were > >

> > not personal towards you in nature, rather towards the stated > >

translation. I am > > > > in agreement with you with the sloka 79 as I also

come from > > Anukul school of > > > > thought as taught by my guru. > > > >

>

> > > I am just trying to figure out why would mani mala say what it > > states

in > > > > sloka 80+...have you read another version of mani mala > >

translated by another > > > > author...?> > > > > > > > To think that we

should wear Blue sapphire for adverse moon is > > beyond my > > > > limited

understanding, specially when we make a blunt general > > statement like > > >

> that...I mean moon is neither exalted nor debilitated in saturn > > signs, and

then > > > > the author of mani mala further suggests wearing a pearl for > >

adverse > > > > Jupiter...where jupiter gets exalted, so their is

inconsistency > > here...> > > > > > >

> Having said that, may be Guru Ji and other learned will throw > > some

light...> > > > > > > > Namaste> > > > Gaurav Jain> > > > > > > > In a

message dated 2/20/2006 3:57:55 P.M. Eastern Standard > > Time, > > > >

rsbj66@ writes:> > > > > > > > Dear Sriman,> > > > > > > > Namaste!!! I am not

suggesting anything, these are three slokas > > taken from > > > > Mani Mala >

> > > written by SM Tagore published in 1879. I'm just putting these > >

slokas out > > > > for comment.> > > > > > > > I personally agree with the

first sloka 79. When Sun is adverse > > one should

> > > > DONATE a ruby, > > > > for adverse Moon one should donate a pearl, as

in Ratna-dana-> > vidhi> > > > > > > > And when these planets are beneficial

(anukul) then one should > > WEAR the > > > > associated gem, > > > > as if

Sun is anukul in the chart then Ruby can be worn, as in > > ratna-dharana.> >

> > > > > > Gem should be WORN for good planet / gem should be DONATED for > >

bad planet.> > > > > > > > I personally disagree with slokas 80-81. But as they

are from > > the famous > > > > Mani Mali so I > > > > have put them for your

interest.> > > > > > > > Best regards,> >

> > Richard> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, yobrevol@

wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > > >

> Namaste richard ji,> > > > > > > > > > If I am reading it correctly , what

you are suggesting via > > these slokas is > > > > > > > > > that we should

give away diamond to propitiate venus, and at > > the same time > > > > wear >

> > > > diamond when venus is adverse? and that we wear blue > > sapphire to

nullify > > > > > adverse effects of moon?....lets not forget that jupiter >

> exalts

in > > > > cancer, so > > > > > how in the right mind can we suggest wearing

pearl to "ward > > off" the > > > > adverse > > > > > effects of jupiter...?

> > > > > > > > > > are you sure about the authenticity of the

translations?> > > > > > > > > > Also, to the learned, where can I get a copy

of Mani mala?> > > > > > > > > > Namaste> > > > > Gaurav Jain> > > > > > > >

> > In a message dated 2/20/2006 2:50:03 P.M. Eastern Standard > > Time, > >

> > > rsbj66@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > Translation 79:

Ill Stars and how to propitiate them by > > bestowal (dana)> > > > > of gems:

> > > > > > > > > > When the Sun is hostile (donate) a pure ruby; when the

Moon, > > a good> > > > > pearl; when Mangala, a good coral; when Budha, a

good > > emerald; when> > > > > Brihaspati, a good yellow sapphire; when

Shukra, the > > diamond; when> > > > > Shani, a good blue sapphire; when

Rahu, the gomeda; and when > > Ketu, a> > > > > good cat's eye, should be

donated> > > > > > > > > > Translation 80-81: Ill Stars and how to ward them

off by > > wearing> > > > > (dharan) of gems:> > > > >

> > > > > If the Sun is adverse, (wear) the cat's eye; if the Moon, > > the

blue> > > > > sapphire; if Mangala, the ruby; if Budha, the ruby too; if > >

Vrihaspati,> > > > > the pearl; if Shukra, the diamond; if Shani, the great

blue > > sapphire;> > > > > if Rahu, the gomeda, and if Ketu, the emerald,

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