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Namasksar and thank you for the wealth of information you have provided us in

your messsage.........wishing you a speedy recovery

DharmaDev Arya

In a message dated 11/29/2005 5:25:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, syzenith .au writes:

Namaste Sri DDji and Friends,

Just a quick swing by to say "Greetings". So sorry for being away for days on

end.. Now back, trying to catch up and follow message threads

DDji, very well said and absolutely agree with your excellent response to Mr.

Chopra Deven in regards Indonesian beads.

While Indonesian beads have their own merits and uses, there is no comparison

with the levels of electromagnetic properties innate in Nepali rudraksha. This

can be scientifically measured with the correct equipment.

This may interest some friends here:

I've got stacks of Aussie Quandongs which are the equivalent of rudraksha beads.

They are used as bush fruit by (with utmost respect) Aborigines/Aboriginals in

the Outback. They contain high levels of vitamin C and other nutrients. When

the seed is washed, dried and examined, they look exactly like Indonesian

beads. The dividing lines are not always clearly defined and hardly reach the

top or bottom of each seed. In Singapore, Malaysia, Sabah, Sarawak,

Philippines and all of Borneo, they also have similar species akin the

Indonesian variety. The same varieties extend to the Pacific Islands and

Mauritius in the Indian Ocean. These rudraksha when examined and tested, are

exactly similar to Indonesian beads with lesser electromagnetic properties.

Just a bit of cheekiness, pls pardon me and don't be offended:

If I were not a rudraksha sadhaka who believes in, and sticks to only the "Real

Gauda Land thing", gee and Shiva Forbid, I would be picking Aussie Silver

Quandongs for free in the millions and touting them to make a quick buck. All

I need is a four wheel drive, a good driver who can read roadmaps without

arguing and getting cranky...lol.. and many huge jute sacks to haul these seeds

into town These are big seeds, also the size of Amla Fruit but...no thanks..

Frankly, this would be blasphemous in many aspects and goes against the grain

of dharma and the Puranas. Hence I'd rather pay for high grade Gauda Land

Rudraksha plus the Fedex charges to have the real thing sent to Australia where

I'm probably based for another 10 years

The above aside:

Energy workers, Reiki masters, Chi Gong exponents, Dowsers, Advanced meditators,

etc. are able to actually "feel" the vibrations of electromagnetic energies when

they "tune in". For certain serious Yogis and Yoginis, these energies literally

are "throbbing" or "thumping", depending on what practices they are performing

at any given time.

Having used, studied and researched rudrakshas since 9 years old after living in

India around northern foothills, other parts of the Motherland, and then Nepal

myself, can vouch for Nepali beads of the top 25% quality which Rudra Centre

provides.

Also stated in Sanskrit Texts that a rudraksha bead, the size of an Amla fruit

(Indian Gooseberry) is the most potent.

Also based on holy texts, re-affirming what DDji said time and again about

rudraksha from Gauda Land being Lord Shiva's favorite. This is mentioned in

several Puranas.

Enough of my 'chin wag' for now, hope this helps clear further misconceptions.

Eternal blessings

Om Namah Shivaya

Simone (aka: rudrakali81)

http://stores.ebay.com.au/Rudraksha-Australia

A perhaps contradictory Quote of the Day:

Sceptics know the price of everything, but the value of none

, AumShiningLotus@a... wrote:

>

>Dear Friend

>

>Namaskar and thank you for your questions..........yes I agree that something

>in your understanding of what is written in the Shiva Purana needs to be

>clarified and resolved before I can directly answer your reasonable questions

>

>We have gone over this subject matter before however we can go over this

>again as there are many new members recently.........your mention of the smallest

>Indonesian Rudraksha as being the most powerful is a common misconception that

>was spread by the Indonesian Distributors years ago when they found they had

>a market for the smaller beads for Japa Mala and as tourist attractions so

>they spread the word that the smaller the bead the more powerful as this is what

>they had to sell so they made the best of their situation

>

>however this misconception is in direct contradiction to the Siva Purana that

>states the larger the bead the more the benefit..........as mentioned in one

>of my earlier messages the Indonesian Distributors were only trying to feed

>their families and they had an over abundance of the small punch mukhi beads to

>distribute for Jap Malas so they did what they had to do to keep their

>families with food and shelter

>

>In the US you can buy the Shiva Puran at www.NatarajBooks.com

>

>The Shiva Purana Vidyesvara Samhita Chapter 25 part 14 actually states

>

>A Rudraksha the size of an Emblic myrobalan or Dhaatriphala is mentioned as

>the most excellent................one of the size of the fruit of jujube tree

>or Badareephala is spoken of as middling

>

>In part 15 the Samhita states......... in part...............The meanest of

>Rudraaksha is of the size of a gram according to this excellent classification

>

>So according to the Shiva Purana the larger the Bead the more powerful the

>Bead and the largest Beads are found in the Himalayas

>

>part 16 states......... in part...............even the Rudraaksha the size of

>the jujube accords the benefit and heightens happiness and good fortune

>

>In addition to this modern scientists have listed that in the Eleocarpacae

>Family there are 6 classifications of genus of Rudraksha Beads each found at

>different habitats and of different medicinal properties.........these listings

>can be found in the Rudraksha Book by Dr Subas Rai in our Rudra Center Book

>Section.........all 6 genus give benefits at different levels of success and

>accomplishment

>

>The Holy Books state that each of the Holy Rudraksha will give much of the

>same benefits at different levels..........and that the most benefits are gained

>from the largest........largest sizes grow in Himalayas in what is left of

>the smallest remaining forest of Gauda Land and are rare beads.................

>and smaller sizes grow in Indonesia and are most abundant

>

>In addition it is also stated that if you string in precious metal and gems

>that benefits increase

>

>Before I can directly answer your question we also have to recognize that

>there are Japa Malas where the Beads are used as counters in Mantra Japa only and

>many times these are mostly the smaller Indonesian

>Beads...................... and there are the wearing Malas that are The Nepal

Rudraksha Bead Kanthas

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