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dear DD Ji,

In your earlier mails on this group regarding indonesian rudraksha

beads, you have mentioned that they do not possess the effectiveness

as neither do they belong to gauda pradesha so they cannot give the

benefits as compared to nepali rudraksha.

 

My question is : then why at all rudra centre is selling malas

consisting of indonesian rudraksha beads?

 

I have seen malas of 2mm indonesian beads on their website and also

I know that in SHIV Puran its mentioned that rudraksha beads of this

much size are exceptionally effective.

 

Also beads of this much size are not found in Nepal. So, if Shiv

Puran is true then we can conclude that these beads have become

extinct.

 

Don't you think there is something which needs to be resolved.

Why should at all we spend money to purchase these beads when they

are not going to give us that much benefit.

 

please give your views regarding this.

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Namaskar and thank you for your questions..........yes I agree that something in

your understanding of what is written in the Shiva Purana needs to be clarified

and resolved before I can directly answer your reasonable questions

We have gone over this subject matter before however we can go over this again

as there are many new members recently.........your mention of the smallest

Indonesian Rudraksha as being the most powerful is a common misconception that

was spread by the Indonesian Distributors years ago when they found they had a

market for the smaller beads for Japa Mala and as tourist attractions so they

spread the word that the smaller the bead the more powerful as this is what

they had to sell so they made the best of their situation

however this misconception is in direct contradiction to the Siva Purana that

states the larger the bead the more the benefit..........as mentioned in one of

my earlier messages the Indonesian Distributors were only trying to feed their

families and they had an over abundance of the small punch mukhi beads to

distribute for Jap Malas so they did what they had to do to keep their families

with food and shelter

In the US you can buy the Shiva Puran at www.NatarajBooks.com

The Shiva Purana Vidyesvara Samhita Chapter 25 part 14 actually states

A Rudraksha the size of an Emblic myrobalan or Dhaatriphala is mentioned as the

most excellent................one of the size of the fruit of jujube tree or

Badareephala is spoken of as middling

In part 15 the Samhita states......... in part...............The meanest of

Rudraaksha is of the size of a gram according to this excellent classification

So according to the Shiva Purana the larger the Bead the more powerful the Bead

and the largest Beads are found in the Himalayas

part 16 states......... in part...............even the Rudraaksha the size of

the jujube accords the benefit and heightens happiness and good fortune

In addition to this modern scientists have listed that in the Eleocarpacae

Family there are 6 classifications of genus of Rudraksha Beads each found at

different habitats and of different medicinal properties.........these listings

can be found in the Rudraksha Book by Dr Subas Rai in our Rudra Center Book

Section.........all 6 genus give benefits at different levels of success and

accomplishment

The Holy Books state that each of the Holy Rudraksha will give much of the same

benefits at different levels..........and that the most benefits are gained

from the largest........largest sizes grow in Himalayas in what is left of the

smallest remaining forest of Gauda Land and are rare beads................. and

smaller sizes grow in Indonesia and are most abundant

In addition it is also stated that if you string in precious metal and gems that benefits increase

Before I can directly answer your question we also have to recognize that there

are Japa Malas where the Beads are used as counters in Mantra Japa only and

many times these are mostly the smaller Indonesian Beads......................

and there are the wearing Malas that are The Nepal Rudraksha Bead Kanthas used

with Mantra also to Accomplish Self Empowerment and Fearless Life in a more

powerful manner

With all this background the answer to your question is that Rudra Center has

always distributed the authentic smaller beads due to demand and has recently

started to distribute the authentic larger Indonesian Beads because some people

prefer these because they are more affordable.........any of the Rudraksha Beads

of the 6 genus mentioned are still Rudraksha Beads and they still give benefits

of the Holy Rudraksha..........its just that the smaller beads are not as

powerful as the larger beads in any one genus if you compare bead size to bead

size

As we have seen in one recent message with html picture the smaller beads

influence to give benefits can be improved if strung with gold and silver and

gemstones.........this is also said to be true as a general statement in the

Holy Books so a person can actually buy the smaller beads and mix them with

precious metal caps and gems and increase their power to increase benefits to

the wearer if that is what they have found to be successful

To answer your last question.........a person buys what they can afford or what

they have chosen to buy according to what they think they need..........that is

why Rudra Center has a complete selection of Nepal and Indian and Indonesian

Beads for our clients

hope this helps to clarify why Rudra Center distributes the different beads of the Holy Rudraksha

Wishing you and Family the Best

Rudra Center America

DharmaDev Arya

In a message dated 11/28/2005 8:13:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, chopradeven81 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes:

dear DD Ji,

In your earlier mails on this group regarding indonesian rudraksha

beads, you have mentioned that they do not possess the effectiveness

as neither do they belong to gauda pradesha so they cannot give the

benefits as compared to nepali rudraksha.

My question is : then why at all rudra centre is selling malas

consisting of indonesian rudraksha beads?

I have seen malas of 2mm indonesian beads on their website and also

I know that in SHIV Puran its mentioned that rudraksha beads of this

much size are exceptionally effective.

Also beads of this much size are not found in Nepal. So, if Shiv

Puran is true then we can conclude that these beads have become

extinct.

Don't you think there is something which needs to be resolved.

Why should at all we spend money to purchase these beads when they

are not going to give us that much benefit.

please give your views regarding this.

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size are not found in Nepal. So, if Shiv Puran is true then we can conclude that

these beads have become extinct.Don't you think there is something which needs

to be resolved. Why should at all we spend money to purchase these beads when

they are not going to give us that much benefit.please give your views

regarding this.

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Chopra. AumShiningLotus (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Dear FriendNamaskar and thank you for

your questions..........yes I agree that something in your understanding of

what is written in the Shiva Purana needs to be clarified and resolved before I

can directly answer your reasonable questionsWe have gone over this subject

matter before however we can go over this again as there are many new members

recently.........your mention of the smallest Indonesian Rudraksha as being the

most powerful is a common misconception that was spread by the Indonesian

Distributors years ago when they found they had a market for the smaller beads

for Japa Mala and as tourist attractions so they spread the word that the

smaller the bead the more powerful as this is what they had

to sell so they made the best of their situationhowever this misconception is in

direct contradiction to the Siva Purana that states the larger the bead the more

the benefit..........as mentioned in one of my earlier messages the Indonesian

Distributors were only trying to feed their families and they had an over

abundance of the small punch mukhi beads to distribute for Jap Malas so they

did what they had to do to keep their families with food and shelterIn the US

you can buy the Shiva Puran at www.NatarajBooks.com The Shiva Purana Vidyesvara

Samhita Chapter 25 part 14 actually statesA Rudraksha the size of an Emblic

myrobalan or Dhaatriphala is mentioned as the most excellent................one

of the size of the fruit of jujube tree or Badareephala is spoken of as

middlingIn part 15 the Samhita states......... in part...............The

meanest of Rudraaksha is of the size of

a gram according to this excellent classification So according to the Shiva

Purana the larger the Bead the more powerful the Bead and the largest Beads are

found in the Himalayaspart 16 states......... in part...............even the

Rudraaksha the size of the jujube accords the benefit and heightens happiness

and good fortuneIn addition to this modern scientists have listed that in the

Eleocarpacae Family there are 6 classifications of genus of Rudraksha Beads

each found at different habitats and of different medicinal

properties.........these listings can be found in the Rudraksha Book by Dr

Subas Rai in our Rudra Center Book Section.........all 6 genus give benefits at

different levels of success and accomplishmentThe Holy Books state that each of

the Holy Rudraksha will give much of the same benefits at different

levels..........and that the most benefits are gained from the

largest........largest sizes grow in Himalayas in what is left of the

smallest remaining forest of Gauda Land and are rare beads................. and

smaller sizes grow in Indonesia and are most abundantIn addition it is also

stated that if you string in precious metal and gems that benefits

increaseBefore I can directly answer your question we also have to recognize

that there are Japa Malas where the Beads are used as counters in Mantra Japa

only and many times these are mostly the smaller Indonesian

Beads...................... and there are the wearing Malas that are The Nepal

Rudraksha Bead Kanthas used with Mantra also to Accomplish Self Empowerment and

Fearless Life in a more powerful manner With all this background the answer to

your question is that Rudra Center has always distributed the authentic smaller

beads due to demand and has recently started to distribute the authentic larger

Indonesian Beads because some people prefer these because they are more

affordable.........any of the Rudraksha Beads of the 6

genus mentioned are still Rudraksha Beads and they still give benefits of the

Holy Rudraksha..........its just that the smaller beads are not as powerful as

the larger beads in any one genus if you compare bead size to bead sizeAs we

have seen in one recent message with html picture the smaller beads influence

to give benefits can be improved if strung with gold and silver and

gemstones.........this is also said to be true as a general statement in the

Holy Books so a person can actually buy the smaller beads and mix them with

precious metal caps and gems and increase their power to increase benefits to

the wearer if that is what they have found to be successfulTo answer your last

question.........a person buys what they can afford or what they have chosen to

buy according to what they think they need..........that is why Rudra Center has

a complete selection of Nepal and Indian and Indonesian Beads for our

clientshope this helps to clarify why Rudra Center

distributes the different beads of the Holy RudrakshaWishing you and Family the

BestRudra Center AmericaDharmaDev AryaIn a message dated 11/28/2005 8:13:49 AM

Pacific Standard Time, chopradeven81 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes: dear DD Ji,In your

earlier mails on this group regarding indonesian rudraksha beads, you have

mentioned that they do not possess the effectiveness as neither do they belong

to gauda pradesha so they cannot give the benefits as compared to nepali

rudraksha.My question is : then why at all rudra centre is selling malas

consisting of indonesian rudraksha beads?I have seen malas of 2mm indonesian

beads on their website and also I know that in SHIV Puran its mentioned that

rudraksha beads of this much size are exceptionally effective. Also beads of

this much

size are not found in Nepal. So, if Shiv Puran is true then we can conclude that

these beads have become extinct.Don't you think there is something which needs

to be resolved. Why should at all we spend money to purchase these beads when

they are not going to give us that much benefit.please give your views

regarding this.

[Guest guest]

thanks for your reply.............you are right.........although the size of a

gram might vary depending on where grown these smaller beads are offered by

Rudra Center with heavy silver caps to enhance their effectiveness and are most

Auspicious

There are few if any that I have seen from nepal or India that are less than 12mm in size

the rare 2 Mukhi Nepal actually comes from Assam and is in the 6mm range if I remember correctly

hope this helps

Wishing you and Family the Best

Rudra Center America

DharmaDev Arya

In a message dated 11/30/2005 7:05:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, chopradeven81 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes:

Fine Sir, that is O.K.

You have mentioned that:

'In part 15 the Samhita states......... in part...............The meanest of

Rudraaksha is of the size of a gram according to this excellent

classification.'

Now if the above is true then where are they found. Are these the same 2mm

rudraksha beads which are shown on Rudra centre's website.

Actually I am looking for these rudraksha beads.

Please tell me if these are the same as i have mentioned above then I will go for it.

One more thing Sir: Is it true that rudraksha beads less than 9mm size are not

found in Gauda land i.e India or Nepal regions.

Sorry for troubling you again and again.

Regards

Deven Chopra.

AumShiningLotus (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Dear Friend

Namaskar and thank you for your questions..........yes I agree that something in

your understanding of what is written in the Shiva Purana needs to be clarified

and resolved before I can directly answer your reasonable questions

We have gone over this subject matter before however we can go over this again

as there are many new members recently.........your mention of the smallest

Indonesian Rudraksha as being the most powerful is a common misconception that

was spread by the Indonesian Distributors years ago when they found they had a

market for the smaller beads for Japa Mala and as tourist attractions so they

spread the word that the smaller the bead the more powerful as this is what

they had to sell so they made the best of their situation

however this misconception is in direct contradiction to the Siva Purana that

states the larger the bead the more the benefit..........as mentioned in one of

my earlier messages the Indonesian Distributors were only trying to feed their

families and they had an over abundance of the small punch mukhi beads to

distribute for Jap Malas so they did what they had to do to keep their families

with food and shelter

In the US you can buy the Shiva Puran at www.NatarajBooks.com

The Shiva Purana Vidyesvara Samhita Chapter 25 part 14 actually states

A Rudraksha the size of an Emblic myrobalan or Dhaatriphala is mentioned as the

most excellent................one of the size of the fruit of jujube tree or

Badareephala is spoken of as middling

In part 15 the Samhita states......... in part...............The meanest of

Rudraaksha is of the size of a gram according to this excellent classification

So according to the Shiva Purana the larger the Bead the more powerful the Bead

and the largest Beads are found in the Himalayas

part 16 states......... in part...............even the Rudraaksha the size of

the jujube accords the benefit and heightens happiness and good fortune

In addition to this modern scientists have listed that in the Eleocarpacae

Family there are 6 classifications of genus of Rudraksha Beads each found at

different habitats and of different medicinal properties.........these listings

can be found in the Rudraksha Book by Dr Subas Rai in our Rudra Center Book

Section.........all 6 genus give benefits at different levels of success and

accomplishment

The Holy Books state that each of the Holy Rudraksha will give much of the same

benefits at different levels..........and that the most benefits are gained

from the largest........largest sizes grow in Himalayas in what is left of the

smallest remaining forest of Gauda Land and are rare beads................. and

smaller sizes grow in Indonesia and are most abundant

In addition it is also stated that if you string in precious metal and gems that benefits increase

Before I can directly answer your question we also have to recognize that there

are Japa Malas where the Beads are used as counters in Mantra Japa only and

many times these are mostly the smaller Indonesian Beads......................

and there are the wearing Malas that are The Nepal Rudraksha Bead Kanthas used

with Mantra also to Accomplish Self Empowerment and Fearless Life in a more

powerful manner

With all this background the answer to your question is that Rudra Center has

always distributed the authentic smaller beads due to demand and has recently

started to distribute the authentic larger Indonesian Beads because some people

prefer these because they are more affordable.........any of the Rudraksha Beads

of the 6 genus mentioned are still Rudraksha Beads and they still give benefits

of the Holy Rudraksha..........its just that the smaller beads are not as

powerful as the larger beads in any one genus if you compare bead size to bead

size

As we have seen in one recent message with html picture the smaller beads

influence to give benefits can be improved if strung with gold and