Guest guest Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Dear Bhaktradj Ji As an aside to another group member your write that............until now you have not read any meaningful reaction to the contence you have written......Looks like my recent lecture to you online did not have any effect and combining this with the silence from most of the group then threre is an obvious reason for this....................... and it is stated in your own words in one of your messages In that message you state Im totally unqualified to go public with the little knowldege I have........besides that I have not realized one atom of knowledge and would be pretending to be a hypocrite if I did By your own admission you have said you dont understand what you are saying and this may be one of the reasons most people are not answering you for discussion The other reason many are not answering you is that this is a Highly Organized Spiritual Group of Aspirants who know exactly who they are and where they are going......We live with the Holy Rudraksha on a Path that leads to Self Empowerment and Fearless Life on the Path the Enlightment and Final Samadhi If you have something to add to this Spiritual Group regarding the Holy Rudraksha you are most welcome to continue posting however if you continue with the cerebralizeing as a self admitted unqualified person then your messages will be deleted from the group site Hopeing Lord Siva gives you the common sense to make some kind of sense of your messages so that some day you can consider yourself a qualified person who can then teach others.........in your present state is best to stay silent Wishing you and Family the Best DharmaDev Arya In a message dated 6/13/2005 4:18:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, bhaktas2 writes: > > > Dear Simone didi, > > Thank you for your understanding. When I joined this group I thaught it was > a group who was interested in genuin spiritual growth and therefore in a > mature way discussing spiritual topics based on siddhanta and not sentiment. I > explained the difference in my discourse. Without proper understanding of this > differance and the differance of the relative and absolute perspective no > meaningfull discussion is possible. > > Uptill now I've not read any meaningfull reaction to the contence I've > written so that brotherly and sistely meaningfull dicussion can take place with > the goal of growth. This life is very short and due to karma the souls by the > ocean of time as washed together for sometime just like the grains of sand are > washed together by the ocean of water on the seashore. That same ocean which > brouhgt them together will aslo wash them appart again in due coars. We by > the ocean of time have been brought together in this internet group and will > surely be seperated again by time if we want or not. This human life is short > and has to be used wisely otherwise the opportunity which lie in it may be > lost for many aons to come. The Srimad Bhagvtam 11.20.17 states in this regard: > > "This human form of live is rare and it can award all the benifit of life. > It is superior to all other forms of life, for having attained it, one may > easily cross over the ocean of material exictence. The human form of life is > like a ship for crossing the material ocean. The guru is the captain and the > mercy of Krishna is the favorable wind that carries the ship safely across. One > who fails to make use of the human form of life for crossing the ocean of > birth and death is the killer of the self." > > The path we have tread is also dipicted many times, the Srimad Bhgavatam > 11.12.24 states: > > "With steady intelligence you should develop unalloyed devotion service by > careful worship of the spiritual master, and with the sharp ax of > transcendental knowledge you should cut off the subtle material covering of the soul. > Upon realizing the Supreme personality of Godhead, you should then give up the > ax of analytic knowledge." > > It it surly treu that at a certain point one will have to give up analytical > knowledge but as stated above this is towards the end of our spiritual > journey not at the beginning. Some want togive it up now and jump to higher levels > artificially. This is simply not possible we will have to follow the path as > it is given by The Supreme Himself and his bonafide representatives. > > A true brother and friend will not tell you what you want to hear for the > sake of keeping the peace but respectfully will tell you what you need to hear. > This is the definition of a real friend, brother or sister. > > The question posed by Vaghelaji was also discusses by the Demigods in the > court of Indra, the king of the demigods. I will tell that story in one of my > next e-mails sothat we can see what they concluded on this topic and how they > did it. > > With warm regards to all, > > Bhaktradj Khargjitsing > > > > > Simone <syzenith wrote: > Namaste Brother Brammetje, > > Yes, fully understand where or which "angle or aspect" you are > coming from ) and your observance of the shastras and again, your > humility. > > Its true that theory is one thing but "realising the knowledge" is > more important. Yes, informal and healthy discussions are essential > in maintaining peace and harmony with brothers and sisters here who > come from different religious backgrounds. > > By and large to friends who may have misunderstood, may I also add > that Sanatana Dharma is not a "Religion" as such; it is the "Divine > Path", it is a "Way of Life"....... In Sanatana Dharma there is no > proselytizing. The word "Hinduism" (loosely translated), cannot > quite begin to unravel and never will be able to define Sanatana > Dharma. We can only "live it" or "leave it" ) > > Eternal blessings > Om Namah Shivaya > Simone > > > , Brammetje Kharag > <bhaktas2> wrote: > > >Dear Simone didi, > > > >Thank you for your kind reply. I only tried to reply to the > question Vaghelaji put to this group as he stated that there was > some confussion about the topic with him. I've kept it short even > ommiting the verses from shastra that give shastric evidence to what > I stated. If anyone wants to have them I'll be glad to quote them > one by one. My only request to them is to be patient as I'm doing > this in between my daily activities and have actually little time. > > > >In regard to your sugestion about the publications. I'm totally > unqualified to go public with the little knowledge I have. > Besides that, I've not realized one atom of that knowledge and would > be a hypocrite in pretending I did. > > Theoretic knowledge is one but the realisation of this knowledge is > what is realy important. In the land of the blind one eye is king if > you know what I mean. What I've learned from Sadhu, Guru and Shastra > I'll gladly share in informal disussions as far as I'm able to > reproduce it like a taperecorder when and if it is required or > helpfull. > > > >With warm regards, > > > >Bhaktradj Kharagjitsing > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with > voicemail > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> > Would you Help a Child in need? > It is easier than you think. > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 I am afraid I would have to concur with DD ji on this one. The messages, however beautifully written and put in some context to the Sacred books, had a sort of limited scope for discourse. Texts were referred to only where some relevance was seen to justify ones hypothesis rather than indiscriminate use of the sacred texts to see if the hypothesis stands out for tests against conflicting texts. In one of the e-mails to this person, DD ji wrote to say that what the person was writing would be their version of the "truth" and not necessarily "universal truth". Despite this the person kept on writing as if there is no tomorrow. Now I am sure that no-one would argue that according to the sacred books, Sri Krishna was the "only" Avatar of Lord Vishnu that had all of his sixteen senses present from Lord Vishnu's Celestial form (also known as the Poornavataar). However what is not being discussed here is that "according to the sacred texts, it still was a necessary human form that the good Lord had to take to balance out between good and evil and to spell out the new way of life for the humans to follow to remain protected from the intensity of physicality in Kaliyug. Yet as with all of the Avatars of Lord Vishnu, Sri Krishna had a finite time limit to remain in a human form before leaving the human form and return to the centre of the cosmos to ensure that the great wheel of life carries on un-interrupted" As far as the Hindu Sacred texts go (within my limited knowledge), despite listing innumerable variables in philosophical discourses for the human brain to comprehend at least the complexity of the question who "God" is, have never in any place concluded that "God" is called............ What is written in the Vedas and other sacred texts, once you take away the poetics and attempts to make texts memorable by the human brain, is how all of the chaos that is seen around us has an underlying and extremely complex order. That things happen for a reason despite the fact that we are not able to always comprehend those reasons (sometimes maybe because of our limited knowledge and sometimes maybe because to comprehend something, course of time required goes beyond a mere human lifetime). Claiming to know what /who "god" is? is simply an arrogance within human brain to try and put into perspective, something that is beyond reasoning and beyond perspectives. I have come across many individuals and groups who have picked up a portion of the sacred texts (maybe because that is what they have been taught/initiated in/have read through) and would continue to argue that those texts are what "Hinduism" is all about. If a person is Hindu by practice, they must first make themselves acquainted with the brilliance of the majority of the sacred texts and understand their deeper meanings before they can claim to be speaking for Hinduism. Kind regards Anand [] On Behalf Of AumShiningLotus 14 June 2005 04:45 Re: RBSC : To Simone did from Bhaktradj Dear Bhaktradj Ji As an aside to another group member your write that............until now you have not read any meaningful reaction to the contence you have written......Looks like my recent lecture to you online did not have any effect and combining this with the silence from most of the group then threre is an obvious reason for this....................... and it is stated in your own words in one of your messages In that message you state Im totally unqualified to go public with the little knowldege I have........besides that I have not realized one atom of knowledge and would be pretending to be a hypocrite if I did By your own admission you have said you dont understand what you are saying and this may be one of the reasons most people are not answering you for discussion The other reason many are not answering you is that this is a Highly Organized Spiritual Group of Aspirants who know exactly who they are and where they are going......We live with the Holy Rudraksha on a Path that leads to Self Empowerment and Fearless Life on the Path the Enlightment and Final Samadhi If you have something to add to this Spiritual Group regarding the Holy Rudraksha you are most welcome to continue posting however if you continue with the cerebralizeing as a self admitted unqualified person then your messages will be deleted from the group site Hopeing Lord Siva gives you the common sense to make some kind of sense of your messages so that some day you can consider yourself a qualified person who can then teach others.........in your present state is best to stay silent Wishing you and Family the Best DharmaDev Arya In a message dated 6/13/2005 4:18:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, bhaktas2 writes: > > > Dear Simone didi, > > Thank you for your understanding. When I joined this group I thaught it was > a group who was interested in genuin spiritual growth and therefore in a > mature way discussing spiritual topics based on siddhanta and not sentiment. I > explained the difference in my discourse. Without proper understanding of this > differance and the differance of the relative and absolute perspective no > meaningfull discussion is possible. > > Uptill now I've not read any meaningfull reaction to the contence I've > written so that brotherly and sistely meaningfull dicussion can take place with > the goal of growth. This life is very short and due to karma the souls by the > ocean of time as washed together for sometime just like the grains of sand are > washed together by the ocean of water on the seashore. That same ocean which > brouhgt them together will aslo wash them appart again in due coars. We by > the ocean of time have been brought together in this internet group and will > surely be seperated again by time if we want or not. This human life is short > and has to be used wisely otherwise the opportunity which lie in it may be > lost for many aons to come. The Srimad Bhagvtam 11.20.17 states in this regard: > > "This human form of live is rare and it can award all the benifit of life. > It is superior to all other forms of life, for having attained it, one may > easily cross over the ocean of material exictence. The human form of life is > like a ship for crossing the material ocean. The guru is the captain and the > mercy of Krishna is the favorable wind that carries the ship safely across. One > who fails to make use of the human form of life for crossing the ocean of > birth and death is the killer of the self." > > The path we have tread is also dipicted many times, the Srimad Bhgavatam > 11.12.24 states: > > "With steady intelligence you should develop unalloyed devotion service by > careful worship of the spiritual master, and with the sharp ax of > transcendental knowledge you should cut off the subtle material covering of the soul. > Upon realizing the Supreme personality of Godhead, you should then give up the > ax of analytic knowledge." > > It it surly treu that at a certain point one will have to give up analytical > knowledge but as stated above this is towards the end of our spiritual > journey not at the beginning. Some want togive it up now and jump to higher levels > artificially. This is simply not possible we will have to follow the path as > it is given by The Supreme Himself and his bonafide representatives. > > A true brother and friend will not tell you what you want to hear for the > sake of keeping the peace but respectfully will tell you what you need to hear. > This is the definition of a real friend, brother or sister. > > The question posed by Vaghelaji was also discusses by the Demigods in the > court of Indra, the king of the demigods. I will tell that story in one of my > next e-mails sothat we can see what they concluded on this topic and how they > did it. > > With warm regards to all, > > Bhaktradj Khargjitsing > > > > > Simone <syzenith wrote: > Namaste Brother Brammetje, > > Yes, fully understand where or which "angle or aspect" you are > coming from ) and your observance of the shastras and again, your > humility. > > Its true that theory is one thing but "realising the knowledge" is > more important. Yes, informal and healthy discussions are essential > in maintaining peace and harmony with brothers and sisters here who > come from different religious backgrounds. > > By and large to friends who may have misunderstood, may I also add > that Sanatana Dharma is not a "Religion" as such; it is the "Divine > Path", it is a "Way of Life"....... In Sanatana Dharma there is no > proselytizing. The word "Hinduism" (loosely translated), cannot > quite begin to unravel and never will be able to define Sanatana > Dharma. We can only "live it" or "leave it" ) > > Eternal blessings > Om Namah Shivaya > Simone > > > , Brammetje Kharag > <bhaktas2> wrote: > > >Dear Simone didi, > > > >Thank you for your kind reply. I only tried to reply to the > question Vaghelaji put to this group as he stated that there was > some confussion about the topic with him. I've kept it short even > ommiting the verses from shastra that give shastric evidence to what > I stated. If anyone wants to have them I'll be glad to quote them > one by one. My only request to them is to be patient as I'm doing > this in between my daily activities and have actually little time. > > > >In regard to your sugestion about the publications. I'm totally > unqualified to go public with the little knowledge I have. > Besides that, I've not realized one atom of that knowledge and would > be a hypocrite in pretending I did. > > Theoretic knowledge is one but the realisation of this knowledge is > what is realy important. In the land of the blind one eye is king if > you know what I mean. What I've learned from Sadhu, Guru and Shastra > I'll gladly share in informal disussions as far as I'm able to > reproduce it like a taperecorder when and if it is required or > helpfull. > > > >With warm regards, > > > >Bhaktradj Kharagjitsing > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with > voicemail > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> > Would you Help a Child in need? > It is easier than you think. > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > To send an email to: _____ * / * <?subject=U n> * Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 MahaDev Dear Respected Anand Ji Wish I could write like you do sometimes.......you have put all this in perfect perspective..... seems as a Saivite I have always preferred action and experiential Knowledge instead of discourse...... only one way to respect and acknowledge there is a higher Source Dhanyavaad cha Pranams Mitra DD In a message dated 6/14/2005 7:21:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, anand_nortel writes: > > > I am afraid I would have to concur with DD ji on this one. The > messages, however beautifully written and put in some context to the > Sacred books, had a sort of limited scope for discourse. Texts were > referred to only where some relevance was seen to justify ones > hypothesis rather than indiscriminate use of the sacred texts to see if > the hypothesis stands out for tests against conflicting texts. > > In one of the e-mails to this person, DD ji wrote to say that what the > person was writing would be their version of the "truth" and not > necessarily "universal truth". Despite this the person kept on writing > as if there is no tomorrow. > > Now I am sure that no-one would argue that according to the sacred > books, Sri Krishna was the "only" Avatar of Lord Vishnu that had all of > his sixteen senses present from Lord Vishnu's Celestial form (also known > as the Poornavataar). However what is not being discussed here is that > "according to the sacred texts, it still was a necessary human form that > the good Lord had to take to balance out between good and evil and to > spell out the new way of life for the humans to follow to remain > protected from the intensity of physicality in Kaliyug. Yet as with all > of the Avatars of Lord Vishnu, Sri Krishna had a finite time limit to > remain in a human form before leaving the human form and return to the > centre of the cosmos to ensure that the great wheel of life carries on > un-interrupted" > > As far as the Hindu Sacred texts go (within my limited knowledge), > despite listing innumerable variables in philosophical discourses for > the human brain to comprehend at least the complexity of the question > who "God" is, have never in any place concluded that "God" is > called............ What is written in the Vedas and other sacred texts, > once you take away the poetics and attempts to make texts memorable by > the human brain, is how all of the chaos that is seen around us has an > underlying and extremely complex order. That things happen for a > reason despite the fact that we are not able to always comprehend those > reasons (sometimes maybe because of our limited knowledge and sometimes > maybe because to comprehend something, course of time required goes > beyond a mere human lifetime). > > Claiming to know what /who "god" is? is simply an arrogance within human > brain to try and put into perspective, something that is beyond > reasoning and beyond perspectives. > > I have come across many individuals and groups who have picked up a > portion of the sacred texts (maybe because that is what they have been > taught/initiated in/have read through) and would continue to argue that > those texts are what "Hinduism" is all about. If a person is Hindu by > practice, they must first make themselves acquainted with the brilliance > of the majority of the sacred texts and understand their deeper meanings > before they can claim to be speaking for Hinduism. > > Kind regards > > Anand > > > [] On Behalf Of > AumShiningLotus > 14 June 2005 04:45 > > Re: RBSC : To Simone did from Bhaktradj > > > Dear Bhaktradj Ji > > As an aside to another group member your write that............until now > you > have not read any meaningful reaction to the contence you have > written......Looks like my recent lecture to you online did not have any > effect and combining > this with the silence from most of the group then threre is an obvious > reason > for this....................... and it is stated in your own words in > one of > your messages > > In that message you state > > Im totally unqualified to go public with the little knowldege I > have........besides that I have not realized one atom of knowledge and > would be pretending > to be a hypocrite if I did > > By your own admission you have said you dont understand what you are > saying > and this may be one of the reasons most people are not answering you for > > discussion > > The other reason many are not answering you is that this is a Highly > Organized Spiritual Group of Aspirants who know exactly who they are and > where they > are going......We live with the Holy Rudraksha on a Path that leads to > Self > Empowerment and Fearless Life on the Path the Enlightment and Final > Samadhi > > If you have something to add to this Spiritual Group regarding the Holy > Rudraksha you are most welcome to continue posting however if you > continue with the > cerebralizeing as a self admitted unqualified person then your messages > will > be deleted from the group site > > Hopeing Lord Siva gives you the common sense to make some kind of sense > of > your messages so that some day you can consider yourself a qualified > person who > can then teach others.........in your present state is best to stay > silent > > Wishing you and Family the Best > > DharmaDev Arya In a message dated 6/13/2005 4:18:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, > bhaktas2 writes: > > > > > > >Dear Simone didi, > > > >Thank you for your understanding. When I joined this group I thaught > it was > >a group who was interested in genuin spiritual growth and therefore in > a > >mature way discussing spiritual topics based on siddhanta and not > sentiment. I > >explained the difference in my discourse. Without proper understanding > of this > >differance and the differance of the relative and absolute > perspective no > >meaningfull discussion is possible. > > > >Uptill now I've not read any meaningfull reaction to the contence I've > > >written so that brotherly and sistely meaningfull dicussion can take > place with > >the goal of growth. This life is very short and due to karma the souls > by the > >ocean of time as washed together for sometime just like the grains of > sand are > >washed together by the ocean of water on the seashore. That same ocean > which > >brouhgt them together will aslo wash them appart again in due coars. > We by > >the ocean of time have been brought together in this internet group > and will > >surely be seperated again by time if we want or not. This human life > is short > >and has to be used wisely otherwise the opportunity which lie in it > may be > >lost for many aons to come. The Srimad Bhagvtam 11.20.17 states in > this regard: > > > >"This human form of live is rare and it can award all the benifit of > life. > >It is superior to all other forms of life, for having attained it, one > may > >easily cross over the ocean of material exictence. The human form of > life is > >like a ship for crossing the material ocean. The guru is the captain > and the > >mercy of Krishna is the favorable wind that carries the ship safely > across. One > >who fails to make use of the human form of life for crossing the ocean > of > >birth and death is the killer of the self." > > > >The path we have tread is also dipicted many times, the Srimad > Bhgavatam > >11.12.24 states: > > > >"With steady intelligence you should develop unalloyed devotion > service by > >careful worship of the spiritual master, and with the sharp ax of > >transcendental knowledge you should cut off the subtle material > covering of the soul. > >Upon realizing the Supreme personality of Godhead, you should then > give up the > >ax of analytic knowledge." > > > >It it surly treu that at a certain point one will have to give up > analytical > >knowledge but as stated above this is towards the end of our spiritual > > >journey not at the beginning. Some want togive it up now and jump to > higher levels > >artificially. This is simply not possible we will have to follow the > path as > >it is given by The Supreme Himself and his bonafide representatives. > > > >A true brother and friend will not tell you what you want to hear for > the > >sake of keeping the peace but respectfully will tell you what you need > to hear. > >This is the definition of a real friend, brother or sister. > > > >The question posed by Vaghelaji was also discusses by the Demigods in > the > >court of Indra, the king of the demigods. I will tell that story in > one of my > >next e-mails sothat we can see what they concluded on this topic and > how they > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Dear DharmaDev Aryaji, Because of my bussy scedule I was not able to respond to your message sooner. I will respond to the contence as soon as possible. For the maean while I would like ta ask you as I'm always a very eager student of philosophical, religios topics to please explain to me, as detailed as you can, your statement that you exactly know who you are, where your going and what samadhi means. I'm very intriged and anxiuos to learn about these things. Thank you in advance and anxiously awaiting your reply. With warm regards, Bhaktradj Kharagjitsing AumShiningLotus wrote: Dear Bhaktradj Ji As an aside to another group member your write that............until now you have not read any meaningful reaction to the contence you have written......Looks like my recent lecture to you online did not have any effect and combining this with the silence from most of the group then threre is an obvious reason for this....................... and it is stated in your own words in one of your messages In that message you state Im totally unqualified to go public with the little knowldege I have........besides that I have not realized one atom of knowledge and would be pretending to be a hypocrite if I did By your own admission you have said you dont understand what you are saying and this may be one of the reasons most people are not answering you for discussion The other reason many are not answering you is that this is a Highly Organized Spiritual Group of Aspirants who know exactly who they are and where they are going......We live with the Holy Rudraksha on a Path that leads to Self Empowerment and Fearless Life on the Path the Enlightment and Final Samadhi If you have something to add to this Spiritual Group regarding the Holy Rudraksha you are most welcome to continue posting however if you continue with the cerebralizeing as a self admitted unqualified person then your messages will be deleted from the group site Hopeing Lord Siva gives you the common sense to make some kind of sense of your messages so that some day you can consider yourself a qualified person who can then teach others.........in your present state is best to stay silent Wishing you and Family the Best DharmaDev Arya In a message dated 6/13/2005 4:18:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, bhaktas2 writes: > > > Dear Simone didi, > > Thank you for your understanding. When I joined this group I thaught it was > a group who was interested in genuin spiritual growth and therefore in a > mature way discussing spiritual topics based on siddhanta and not sentiment. I > explained the difference in my discourse. Without proper understanding of this > differance and the differance of the relative and absolute perspective no > meaningfull discussion is possible. > > Uptill now I've not read any meaningfull reaction to the contence I've > written so that brotherly and sistely meaningfull dicussion can take place with > the goal of growth. This life is very short and due to karma the souls by the > ocean of time as washed together for sometime just like the grains of sand are > washed together by the ocean of water on the seashore. That same ocean which > brouhgt them together will aslo wash them appart again in due coars. We by > the ocean of time have been brought together in this internet group and will > surely be seperated again by time if we want or not. This human life is short > and has to be used wisely otherwise the opportunity which lie in it may be > lost for many aons to come. The Srimad Bhagvtam 11.20.17 states in this regard: > > "This human form of live is rare and it can award all the benifit of life. > It is superior to all other forms of life, for having attained it, one may > easily cross over the ocean of material exictence. The human form of life is > like a ship for crossing the material ocean. The guru is the captain and the > mercy of Krishna is the favorable wind that carries the ship safely across. One > who fails to make use of the human form of life for crossing the ocean of > birth and death is the killer of the self." > > The path we have tread is also dipicted many times, the Srimad Bhgavatam > 11.12.24 states: > > "With steady intelligence you should develop unalloyed devotion service by > careful worship of the spiritual master, and with the sharp ax of > transcendental knowledge you should cut off the subtle material covering of the soul. > Upon realizing the Supreme personality of Godhead, you should then give up the > ax of analytic knowledge." > > It it surly treu that at a certain point one will have to give up analytical > knowledge but as stated above this is towards the end of our spiritual > journey not at the beginning. Some want togive it up now and jump to higher levels > artificially. This is simply not possible we will have to follow the path as > it is given by The Supreme Himself and his bonafide representatives. > > A true brother and friend will not tell you what you want to hear for the > sake of keeping the peace but respectfully will tell you what you need to hear. > This is the definition of a real friend, brother or sister. > > The question posed by Vaghelaji was also discusses by the Demigods in the > court of Indra, the king of the demigods. I will tell that story in one of my > next e-mails sothat we can see what they concluded on this topic and how they > did it. > > With warm regards to all, > > Bhaktradj Khargjitsing > > > > > Simone <syzenith wrote: > Namaste Brother Brammetje, > > Yes, fully understand where or which "angle or aspect" you are > coming from ) and your observance of the shastras and again, your > humility. > > Its true that theory is one thing but "realising the knowledge" is > more important. Yes, informal and healthy discussions are essential > in maintaining peace and harmony with brothers and sisters here who > come from different religious backgrounds. > > By and large to friends who may have misunderstood, may I also add > that Sanatana Dharma is not a "Religion" as such; it is the "Divine > Path", it is a "Way of Life"....... In Sanatana Dharma there is no > proselytizing. The word "Hinduism" (loosely translated), cannot > quite begin to unravel and never will be able to define Sanatana > Dharma. We can only "live it" or "leave it" ) > > Eternal blessings > Om Namah Shivaya > Simone > > > , Brammetje Kharag > <bhaktas2> wrote: > > >Dear Simone didi, > > > >Thank you for your kind reply. I only tried to reply to the > question Vaghelaji put to this group as he stated that there was > some confussion about the topic with him. I've kept it short even > ommiting the verses from shastra that give shastric evidence to what > I stated. If anyone wants to have them I'll be glad to quote them > one by one. My only request to them is to be patient as I'm doing > this in between my daily activities and have actually little time. > > > >In regard to your sugestion about the publications. I'm totally > unqualified to go public with the little knowledge I have. > Besides that, I've not realized one atom of that knowledge and would > be a hypocrite in pretending I did. > > Theoretic knowledge is one but the realisation of this knowledge is > what is realy important. In the land of the blind one eye is king if > you know what I mean. What I've learned from Sadhu, Guru and Shastra > I'll gladly share in informal disussions as far as I'm able to > reproduce it like a taperecorder when and if it is required or > helpfull. > > > >With warm regards, > > > >Bhaktradj Kharagjitsing > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with > voicemail > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> > Would you Help a Child in need? > It is easier than you think. > Click Here to meet a Child you can help. > To send an email to: / How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Photos. Get Photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Dear Bhaktraj Ji What I am is what we all are........... I am no different than anyone else....... we are all trapped on this Earth at the time of Kali Yuga together.........those that follow tenets of respect and recognition of something greater than our individual selves will be better off when we leave than when we arrived here As stated in the Bhagavat Gita ....... I Am That.......Aham Amritam........I am That the same as you are That I am That.........This is That and all this is That........Which Is I am the same as you are You question where am I going.........same place as you are.............after a time in Service the to Mankind am going to physically die.........only I am hopeing I do not need to come back here again.........liveing in the physical body is a distrubance Final Samadhi is when you physically die.......... your work to burn Karma is done........ suffering and your work of service to the Humankind is done with.................. and a new life in another state of Consciousness can be looked forward to...........or nothingness can be looked forward to I prefer nothingness for eternity Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum Aum Namo Narayanaya Aum Asotama Sad Gamaya Tamasoma Jyothir Gamaya Mrityorma Umritam Gamaya Aum Shanti Shanti Shantihi Aum Shanti Shanti Shantihi Aum Shanti Shanti Shantihi Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum Wishing you and Family the Best Take Care DD In a message dated 6/15/2005 7:27:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, bhaktas2 writes: > > > Dear DharmaDev Aryaji, > > Because of my bussy scedule I was not able to respond to your message > sooner. I will respond to the contence as soon as possible. For the maean while I > would like ta ask you as I'm always a very eager student of philosophical, > religios topics to please explain to me, as detailed as you can, your statement > that you exactly know who you are, where your going and what samadhi means. > > I'm very intriged and anxiuos to learn about these things. > > Thank you in advance and anxiously awaiting your reply. > > With warm regards, > > Bhaktradj Kharagjitsing > > AumShiningLotus wrote: > Dear Bhaktradj Ji > > As an aside to another group member your write that............until now you > > have not read any meaningful reaction to the contence you have > written......Looks like my recent lecture to you online did not have any > effect and combining > this with the silence from most of the group then threre is an obvious > reason > for this....................... and it is stated in your own words in one of > > your messages > > In that message you state > > Im totally unqualified to go public with the little knowldege I > have........besides that I have not realized one atom of knowledge and would > be pretending > to be a hypocrite if I did > > By your own admission you have said you dont understand what you are saying > and this may be one of the reasons most people are not answering you for > discussion > > The other reason many are not answering you is that this is a Highly > Organized Spiritual Group of Aspirants who know exactly who they are and > where they > are going......We live with the Holy Rudraksha on a Path that leads to Self > Empowerment and Fearless Life on the Path the Enlightment and Final Samadhi > > If you have something to add to this Spiritual Group regarding the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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