Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Is this a hate mail? --- Brammetje Kharag <bhaktas2 wrote: > Dear Vaghela, > > As promised I will continue to try to explain the > answers to your questions. > > In my previous mail I left off with the remark about > the reciprocating love relationship between us and > The Supreme Lord. I will elaborate a little more on > this because this is the most crucial part of all > Spiritual knowledge and without it we will never > able to be delivered from this material world. > > Before we can even phantom who we really are we at > least have to know what we are. Sadhu, Guru, Shastra > (including the chaitya-guru, guru within the heart, > the Paramatama or as some call it the upa-guru) > state that we are spiritual souls. The spiritual > soul has the dimension of 1/10.000 part of the tip > of a hair according to shastra and is qualitatively > one, but quantitatively different from The Supreme > Lord. The soul is originally also made of sat, cid, > ananda, eternal spiritual bliss and transcendental > knowledge like the Lord Himself but infinitely small > where the Lord is infinite, period. All qualities > that are in The Lord are also in the soul but in > minute quantity. As The Lord is Supremely > independent we have a minute Independence which > gives us some freedom of choice. To somewhat > understand, only this qualitative equality between > us and The Lord we take the example of a drop of the > ocean which has the same chemical substance as the > whole ocean but will never be able to create a > title wave. > > This independent quality is not only there because > of the above mentioned qualitative equality but it > is also crucial to the purpose of our existence. As > we have already stated eventually the attainment of > pure undivided transcendental love towards The > Supreme Personality of Godhead is the supreme goal > of live. In order for love to be pure it must be > spontaneous and freely given. To be completely pure > it can not be demanded not even by The Supreme Lord. > Our minute Independence is only meant for this > reason. It is also in this that we find the > everlasting unlimited happiness we are all (knowing > or unknowingly) anxiously searching for. Even in > this world the main desire of all living entities is > to be treuly loved. Eventhough we are conditioned > the eternal quality of the soul can not be denied. > The soul is pleasure seeking by nature. Even > stronger it is the prorogative of the soul to enjoy > full happines. We only need to realise that this can > only happen in our fully blossomed loving > relationship with The Supreme Lord. > > In the material world the living entity can have the > illusion that he can enjoy independent from the > Lord. His natural love for God is transformed into > Lust and attachment based on bodily kinsmen ship. > The conditioned soul in the material world can be in > the illusion that he can enjoy seperate from The > Lord. This is because of the material ilusionary > energy called mahamaya. This material world is > actually a prison house for those who have the > desire to enjoy separate from The Lord and the main > prison ward is Durga devi one of the expansions of > Sriamti Parvati the consort of Lord Shiva. Durga > actually means prison. I will not elaborate further > on this for the earlier mentioned reason. > > When the spiritual soul comes to this material world > it is fitted with two prison robes the subtle body > and the gross body. The subtle body consists of, the > false ego, material intelligence and mind (ghost > body), The gross body consists of earth, water, > fire, sky and ether; the five gross elements. At the > time of death the soul and the subtle body move to > another gross body. All our karmic info is > registered in the subtle body and carried with us to > the next gross body. After countless rebirths the > souls may become weary of this useless exercise > (having gone through enoumerous beatings from Maya) > and sincerely look for something else. At that > moment the Super soul or Paramatma who resides in > the heart next to the soul actively will start > guiding him in the right direction to shatter the > Chakra Samsara en begin his journey back to the > spiritual world. The inner Guru than will manifest > also through an external bonafied guru and in that > way the soul will be helped both from within and > without. > > There are those who say that we do not need an > external Guru. They do not realize however that by > giving this advice they themselves act as external > gurus. Our question to them is if one does not need > an external Guru to know the science about God which > is complex and not easy to be understood why do you > accept a guru even for learning simple things like > how to drive a car? Why can you not realise how to > drive a car by relying on your feeling. If you can > rely on your feeling for difficult knowledge it must > be surely possible for simple knowledge. It is only > the creeping propensity to cheat in the persuit of > worldly name, fame and adoration that make these > persons act this way. They act as a guru by giving > so called devine advice but renaging on the > resposibility of giving this advice. We should not > reverse this though and think because God is > everything, eveything is God. > > For the conditioned Soul 4 goals are mentioned in > general shastra, dharma material religiosity), artha > (economic development), kama (material sense > enjoyment) and moksha ( liberation from the material > mode). When we study further though we discover the > most important fifth called Prema (transcendental > love). Manny so called spiritual leaders accept > moksha as the supreme goal but when we study it in > detail it cannot be. Moksha actually means that we > have no more attraction for this material world but > because at that stage in itself we have no idea of > the spiritual world it is like a neutral position in > between the material and spiritual real. Actually > moksha is the beginning stage of real spiritual life > which can only truly start when we have completely > given up all attraction for this material world in > the form of name, fame, adoration, wealth, opposite > sex, etc.. When we then under proper guidance of a > bonafide ambassador of the spiritual realm practise > the development of > transcendental love for the Supreme we will develop > slowly a fully developed spiritual body which is > present in seed form in all emanated souls but not > manifested. Eventually when fully rehabilitated we > will be allowed back in the perfect society the > Spiritual world or Vaikuntha. > > There is one more consideration that common man > cannot understand. If The Supreme is Supreme than > why does He have a mother, father, uncles, aunts, > wives, friends lovers, nephews, brothers etc., etc.? > For those who's eyes have been opened even a little > bit by the torchlight of knowledge carried by the > bonafied gurus this is relatively easy understood. > We already said that Love is the main thing. We also > explained that this material world is a perverted > reflexion of the Spiritual world. Even in this world > we see a variety of loving relationships. We can > categorise them in five types; (1) shanta (neutral), > (2) dasya (servant-master), (3) sakhya (friendship), > (4) vatsalya (parental) and (5) madhurya (amorous). > Every living entity has these types of relationships > in this material world. These types exsist here > however because they exsist in the sipritual world. > If love is the ultimate than it must be there in the > spiritual world in all it veriaties, tastes, > coullors, etc.. We do have to > accept although it is imposible to understand in > the conditioned state that the loving relationships > in the spiritual world can never ever be realy > compared to the temporary relationships we encounter > in this material world. We ca only use the examples > from this world to have some idea. > > Sorry but I have to go now and will continue > tomorrow. > > With Warm regards, > > Bhaktradj Kharagjitsing > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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