Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Namaste Badal, Very nicely put there, thank you sincerely; the word "withdraw" reminds me of Mouna practice.... The word "limbs" reminds of the Eight Limbs of Yoga ) Four limbs and head of the tortoise who carries the world on its back reminds of the Five Elements: Earth, Air, Water, Fire, Ether.... Also reminds of the parad tortoise Shree Yantra.. Especially like the part where you mentioned that tortoises hatch their eggs by using energy from their eyes. This is good food for thought!! Been a long time since I had any exercise with thoughts as I'd had "no thoughts" for quite some time, till today that is. To Everyone ----------- The tail which is the 6th "limb" (so to speak), what would it remind us of, I am wondering here and trying to recall....... My memory has been very bad for few months.. All input welcome ) Thanks in advance. Om Namah Shivaya Wishing you Many blessings Simone , "badal_suchak" <badalsuchak@h...> wrote: > > > OM NAMAHA SHIVAYA > > Dear Vandana ji, > > Namaste! > > A tortoise in Shiva Temples has a symbolic significance to inspire > the devotees in their spiritual practice. > > A tortoise has the ability to withdraw all its limbs and head > completely within its shell. This symbolically inspires a spiritual > aspirant to withdraw all his senses from the material world. > > Further when a tortoise lays eggs, it has a peculiar way of hatching > them. She does not sit on top of them to hatch them but focuses her > attention by constantly looking at them. The energy from her eyes > hatches the eggs. This inspires a spiritual aspirant to focus all his > attention one pointedly towards Lord Shiva. Also the importance > of 'Darshan', focussing ones attention on the image or the Lingam of > Shiva, is explained by the symbolic use of a tortoise in the temple. > > You might have also noticed a bull in all Shiva temples. It > is 'Nandi', Shiva's vehicle. Nandi is a symbol of 'Dharma' or > righteous living. It also symbolizes 'Will Power' and 'Strength' > which help in one's spiritual practice. > > Hope this helps in your spiritual practice. > > With warm regards, > > Badal Suchak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 dear Sister Simone, Could it be the limb of link to evolution.Sometimes I think it is the limb that link us to the black hole from where we evolvefrom a spot. Pls correct me. Best Regards, Kumar (Roankz) SS GLOBAL FREIGHT PTE LTD #01-32 CARGO AGENTS BUILDING C P O BOX 967 SINGAPORE TEL: (65) 6545 1044 FAX: (65) 6545 0106 WEB: www.superspeedgroup.com email: roankz - Simone Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:52 PM RBSC : Tortoise in Shiva Mandir/ To Badal Namaste Badal, Very nicely put there, thank you sincerely; the word "withdraw" reminds me of Mouna practice.... The word "limbs" reminds of the Eight Limbs of Yoga ) Four limbs and head of the tortoise who carries the world on its back reminds of the Five Elements: Earth, Air, Water, Fire, Ether.... Also reminds of the parad tortoise Shree Yantra.. Especially like the part where you mentioned that tortoises hatch their eggs by using energy from their eyes. This is good food for thought!! Been a long time since I had any exercise with thoughts as I'd had "no thoughts" for quite some time, till today that is. To Everyone ----------- The tail which is the 6th "limb" (so to speak), what would it remind us of, I am wondering here and trying to recall....... My memory has been very bad for few months.. All input welcome ) Thanks in advance. Om Namah Shivaya Wishing you Many blessings Simone , "badal_suchak" <badalsuchak@h...> wrote: > > > OM NAMAHA SHIVAYA > > Dear Vandana ji, > > Namaste! > > A tortoise in Shiva Temples has a symbolic significance to inspire > the devotees in their spiritual practice. > > A tortoise has the ability to withdraw all its limbs and head > completely within its shell. This symbolically inspires a spiritual > aspirant to withdraw all his senses from the material world. > > Further when a tortoise lays eggs, it has a peculiar way of hatching > them. She does not sit on top of them to hatch them but focuses her > attention by constantly looking at them. The energy from her eyes > hatches the eggs. This inspires a spiritual aspirant to focus all his > attention one pointedly towards Lord Shiva. Also the importance > of 'Darshan', focussing ones attention on the image or the Lingam of > Shiva, is explained by the symbolic use of a tortoise in the temple. > > You might have also noticed a bull in all Shiva temples. It > is 'Nandi', Shiva's vehicle. Nandi is a symbol of 'Dharma' or > righteous living. It also symbolizes 'Will Power' and 'Strength' > which help in one's spiritual practice. > > Hope this helps in your spiritual practice. > > With warm regards, > > Badal Suchak To send an email to: / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Dear Friends, The Tortoise is also one of the incarnations of Sri Hari Vishnu (Kurma). In the Ramayana, Ram worships Shiva before building the bridge to Lanka, among other times, and Shiva tells Parvati that he worships Ram. Shiva also goes disguised as a Brahmin to see the infant Krishna. So I also see the Tortoise at the Shiva temples as a link between Shiva and Vishnu. Arjuan roankz <roankz wrote: dear Sister Simone, Could it be the limb of link to evolution.Sometimes I think it is the limb that link us to the black hole from where we evolvefrom a spot. Pls correct me. Best Regards, Kumar (Roankz) SS GLOBAL FREIGHT PTE LTD #01-32 CARGO AGENTS BUILDING C P O BOX 967 SINGAPORE TEL: (65) 6545 1044 FAX: (65) 6545 0106 WEB: www.superspeedgroup.com email: roankz - Simone Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:52 PM RBSC : Tortoise in Shiva Mandir/ To Badal Namaste Badal, Very nicely put there, thank you sincerely; the word "withdraw" reminds me of Mouna practice.... The word "limbs" reminds of the Eight Limbs of Yoga ) Four limbs and head of the tortoise who carries the world on its back reminds of the Five Elements: Earth, Air, Water, Fire, Ether.... Also reminds of the parad tortoise Shree Yantra.. Especially like the part where you mentioned that tortoises hatch their eggs by using energy from their eyes. This is good food for thought!! Been a long time since I had any exercise with thoughts as I'd had "no thoughts" for quite some time, till today that is. To Everyone ----------- The tail which is the 6th "limb" (so to speak), what would it remind us of, I am wondering here and trying to recall....... My memory has been very bad for few months.. All input welcome ) Thanks in advance. Om Namah Shivaya Wishing you Many blessings Simone , "badal_suchak" <badalsuchak@h...> wrote: > > > OM NAMAHA SHIVAYA > > Dear Vandana ji, > > Namaste! > > A tortoise in Shiva Temples has a symbolic significance to inspire > the devotees in their spiritual practice. > > A tortoise has the ability to withdraw all its limbs and head > completely within its shell. This symbolically inspires a spiritual > aspirant to withdraw all his senses from the material world. > > Further when a tortoise lays eggs, it has a peculiar way of hatching > them. She does not sit on top of them to hatch them but focuses her > attention by constantly looking at them. The energy from her eyes > hatches the eggs. This inspires a spiritual aspirant to focus all his > attention one pointedly towards Lord Shiva. Also the importance > of 'Darshan', focussing ones attention on the image or the Lingam of > Shiva, is explained by the symbolic use of a tortoise in the temple. > > You might have also noticed a bull in all Shiva temples. It > is 'Nandi', Shiva's vehicle. Nandi is a symbol of 'Dharma' or > righteous living. It also symbolizes 'Will Power' and 'Strength' > which help in one's spiritual practice. > > Hope this helps in your spiritual practice. > > With warm regards, > > Badal Suchak To send an email to: / b.. c.. To send an email to: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 OM NAMAHA SHIVAYA Namaste Simone-ji, Regarding the tortoise's tail...This is a personal interpretation and not based completely on scriptures... To me the first thought that came up was 'backlog'... issues from past, past lives which we carry forward to this life time and need to resolve them now. Also good qualities developed in the past/past life which can be used now to spring forth, higher and forward. A sea creature uses its tail to steer itself. similarly the energy of the wisdom developed in the past can help us steer ourselves in the present, helping us decide where and how we wish to move. The tail also represents lower nature, base instincts, sexual issues, survival issues, security...all 'Base Chakra' isssues. A strong 'Base Chakra' provides a good foundation to move higher and beyond. Withdrawal of tail in the shell could symbolize exercizing one's 'Will' to control one's lower nature and using one's energy for higher Spiritual pourpose. How does this feel? , "Simone" <syzenith> wrote: > > Namaste Badal, > > Very nicely put there, thank you sincerely; the word "withdraw" > reminds me of Mouna practice.... The word "limbs" reminds of the > Eight Limbs of Yoga ) Four limbs and head of the tortoise who > carries the world on its back reminds of the Five Elements: Earth, > Air, Water, Fire, Ether.... Also reminds of the parad tortoise Shree > Yantra.. > > Especially like the part where you mentioned that tortoises hatch > their eggs by using energy from their eyes. This is good food for > thought!! Been a long time since I had any exercise with thoughts as > I'd had "no thoughts" for quite some time, till today that is. > > To Everyone > ----------- > The tail which is the 6th "limb" (so to speak), what would it remind > us of, I am wondering here and trying to recall....... My memory has > been very bad for few months.. > > All input welcome ) Thanks in advance. > > Om Namah Shivaya > Wishing you Many blessings > Simone > > > , "badal_suchak" > <badalsuchak@h...> wrote: > > > > > > OM NAMAHA SHIVAYA > > > > Dear Vandana ji, > > > > Namaste! > > > > A tortoise in Shiva Temples has a symbolic significance to inspire > > the devotees in their spiritual practice. > > > > A tortoise has the ability to withdraw all its limbs and head > > completely within its shell. This symbolically inspires a spiritual > > aspirant to withdraw all his senses from the material world. > > > > Further when a tortoise lays eggs, it has a peculiar way of > hatching > > them. She does not sit on top of them to hatch them but focuses her > > attention by constantly looking at them. The energy from her eyes > > hatches the eggs. This inspires a spiritual aspirant to focus all > his > > attention one pointedly towards Lord Shiva. Also the importance > > of 'Darshan', focussing ones attention on the image or the Lingam > of > > Shiva, is explained by the symbolic use of a tortoise in the temple. > > > > You might have also noticed a bull in all Shiva temples. It > > is 'Nandi', Shiva's vehicle. Nandi is a symbol of 'Dharma' or > > righteous living. It also symbolizes 'Will Power' and 'Strength' > > which help in one's spiritual practice. > > > > Hope this helps in your spiritual practice. > > > > With warm regards, > > > > Badal Suchak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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