Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Hi Cyra, Generally before one worships or tries to connect with other deities, Lord Ganesha is first invoked or worshipped. Unless you are Natha, Tantrika or Aghori, etc..,, the aforementioned rule of thumb applies. Hence (again generally according to basic Sanatana Dharma or Hinduism as its commonly termed; Sanatana Dharma is not a religion but rather, A Way of Life; The Divine Path; various definitions of the word Sanatana Dharma): Shree Ganapati's statue should be placed near the front door. Family, friends, visitors, etc. have to get past Lord Ganapati before entering the living room, etc. If they come with good intentions, Ganapati blesses them. If they come with negative vibes, Shree Ganapati deflects those vibes as the Remover of Obtacles. Beloved Ganapati's Murti can also be placed in the home shrine or in the Puja Room. Many traditional Indians reserve a room in the home for Puja only. Nothing else. This is their Sacred Sanctuary, their private temple where some also find "the temple within" (i.e. within the soul, the temple that is innate in all beings). All Ganapati's murtis are Auspicious, whether they have trunks curved to the right or to the left. Generally it is known that the Right Trunked Ganapati Murti is easier to please, placate and worship. This murti is more inclined to be "indulgent" to devotees. The Left Trunk Ganapati Murti is a little more complex to worship but when done with discipline and devotion over long years, the blessings finally gained are well worth all the hassles. Blessings include His Darshan following one everywhere one goes. You see, the Left Trunked Lord is known to put obstacles in the petitioner's path for long years so that he/she may learn difficult lessons, experience traumas and simultaneous problems all at once that severely tests one's resources and as a result, either make or break the worshipper's resolve whether to continue worshipping Him with the Left Trunk. The sincere and disciplined devotee lays all troubles at the Divine Feet of the Left Trunk Lord, surrenders his/her soul and lets Him mould him/her as He pleases. This level of unfailing bhakti always eventually results in a sign that only the bhakta will recognise one day when Left-Trunked Ganapati relents when He sees that the devotee has, despite all sufferings, managed to come out of the long, dark tunnel into the light. It is a very humbling experience for those who have undergone intense worship of the Left-Trunked Ganapati. Once passed through this, His Darshan is bestowed along with boons and unexpected good luck in endeavors. Of course when the bhakta mis-uses or abuses the blessings gained, he/she then goes back to square one with the Left-Trunked Lord, depending on what the person has done to "de-merit" himself/herself. Amongst other things, Lord Ganesha is Keeper of the Akashic Records ) Please note that I can only speak for myself in regards the worship of Left-Trunked Ganapati but not for others. Each of us have different past life karmas and rnanubandhanas as well as karmas created duringt this lifetime, The Keeper of Akashic Records dishes out what He sees as appropriate for each individual. He is never unfair though. However, from the viewpoint of Non-Duality, a bhakta may regard both Left-Trunked and Right-Trunked Ganapati Murtis as "One and the Same". In this perspective, the bhakta is less likely to receive hard knocks but rather gain blessings as he/she is innocently ignorant of the difference between Right or Left-Trunked Ganapati Murtis. In earthly existence, sometimes it pays to be ignorant As for Simone, i don't know if it was good fortune or ill luck that my first MahaGyanaGuru started stooopid me on the Left-Trunk Murti. Things for approximately 18 years were all untold hardships, riches to rags, family fortunes gone down the drain, immediate family members demised one after another, more rags, more poverty, then it got better, then it got worse again..... Over and over like a broken record the story replayed itself in different locations and under different circumstances. All were roller-coasters along the way, big ups and hefty downs. Humungous ebbs and flows. But the night when my humble altar fired up to the ceiling, smoke, flames and all, smoke alarms screaming away, buckets of water thrown at the altar, etc., would you believe afterwards, that everything was wet except Left-Trunked Ganapati's Murti. Miraculously nothing was burnt either. Only the sides of the altar were singed black by the smoke. In flashes, there were white dhotis running around the apartment. These were Lord Ganesha's Ganas, an indication that His Darshan was received at last. (It is a fact that many disciplined bhaktas actually get a glimpse pf Lord Ganapati's ganas one way or another.) Ironical that the celibate South Indian MahaGyanaGuruji's birth name started with the letters : "Gana". I am forbidden to mention or spell the rest of his name, to protect the privacy of his surviving relatives and their families as well as respect his wishes to remain anonymous. And....... I had to get past Lord Ganapati before reaching His Father, Lord Shiva and Rudraksha. Afterwards, the jigsaw puzzle pieced itself together and further enhanced my very limited understanding of things. Each day continues to bring new lessons and challenges but never obstacles. All problems contain the seeds of their own solutions ) This is one of the lessons learnt too. Om Shree Ganeshaya Namah Om Shree Gurudev Namaha With infinite love, Simone , Cyra Kanga <crkanga> wrote: > > Simoneji, > Which corner of the house is most auspicious to put > Ganesh's statue? Is it true that a Ganpati with the > trunk on the right instead of left is more auspicious. > Please enlighten with your abindance enlightmenbt. > Warmest, > Cyra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Dear Simone, Your wealth of knowledge leaves me in awe. Wow! I think you should now compile your enlightenment in to books for further generations to come. Thanks from the bottom of my heart. I bow humbly to you. Warmest always and deep respect. Cyra --- Simone <syzenith wrote: > > Hi Cyra, > > Generally before one worships or tries to connect > with other > deities, Lord Ganesha is first invoked or > worshipped. Unless you > are Natha, Tantrika or Aghori, etc..,, the > aforementioned rule of > thumb applies. > > Hence (again generally according to basic Sanatana > Dharma or > Hinduism as its commonly termed; Sanatana Dharma is > not a religion > but rather, A Way of Life; The Divine Path; various > definitions of > the word Sanatana Dharma): > > Shree Ganapati's statue should be placed near the > front door. > Family, friends, visitors, etc. have to get past > Lord Ganapati > before entering the living room, etc. If they come > with good > intentions, Ganapati blesses them. If they come > with negative > vibes, Shree Ganapati deflects those vibes as the > Remover of > Obtacles. > > Beloved Ganapati's Murti can also be placed in the > home shrine or in > the Puja Room. Many traditional Indians reserve a > room in the home > for Puja only. Nothing else. This is their Sacred > Sanctuary, their > private temple where some also find "the temple > within" (i.e. within > the soul, the temple that is innate in all beings). > > All Ganapati's murtis are Auspicious, whether they > have trunks > curved to the right or to the left. Generally it is > known that the > Right Trunked Ganapati Murti is easier to please, > placate and > worship. This murti is more inclined to be > "indulgent" to devotees. > > The Left Trunk Ganapati Murti is a little more > complex to worship > but when done with discipline and devotion over long > years, the > blessings finally gained are well worth all the > hassles. Blessings > include His Darshan following one everywhere one > goes. > > You see, the Left Trunked Lord is known to put > obstacles in the > petitioner's path for long years so that he/she may > learn difficult > lessons, experience traumas and simultaneous > problems all at once > that severely tests one's resources and as a result, > either make or > break the worshipper's resolve whether to continue > worshipping Him > with the Left Trunk. > > The sincere and disciplined devotee lays all > troubles at the Divine > Feet of the Left Trunk Lord, surrenders his/her soul > and lets Him > mould him/her as He pleases. > > This level of unfailing bhakti always eventually > results in a sign > that only the bhakta will recognise one day when > Left-Trunked > Ganapati relents when He sees that the devotee has, > despite all > sufferings, managed to come out of the long, dark > tunnel into the > light. > > It is a very humbling experience for those who have > undergone > intense worship of the Left-Trunked Ganapati. Once > passed through > this, His Darshan is bestowed along with boons and > unexpected good > luck in endeavors. > > Of course when the bhakta mis-uses or abuses the > blessings gained, > he/she then goes back to square one with the > Left-Trunked Lord, > depending on what the person has done to "de-merit" > himself/herself. Amongst other things, Lord Ganesha > is Keeper of > the Akashic Records ) > > Please note that I can only speak for myself in > regards the worship > of Left-Trunked Ganapati but not for others. Each > of us have > different past life karmas and rnanubandhanas as > well as karmas > created duringt this lifetime, The Keeper of Akashic > Records dishes > out what He sees as appropriate for each individual. > He is never > unfair though. > > However, from the viewpoint of Non-Duality, a bhakta > may regard both > Left-Trunked and Right-Trunked Ganapati Murtis as > "One and the > Same". In this perspective, the bhakta is less > likely to receive > hard knocks but rather gain blessings as he/she is > innocently > ignorant of the difference between Right or > Left-Trunked Ganapati > Murtis. In earthly existence, sometimes it pays to > be ignorant > > As for Simone, i don't know if it was good fortune > or ill luck that > my first MahaGyanaGuru started stooopid me on the > Left-Trunk Murti. > Things for approximately 18 years were all untold > hardships, riches > to rags, family fortunes gone down the drain, > immediate family > members demised one after another, more rags, more > poverty, then it > got better, then it got worse again..... Over and > over like a broken > record the story replayed itself in different > locations and under > different circumstances. > > All were roller-coasters along the way, big ups and > hefty downs. > Humungous ebbs and flows. But the night when my > humble altar fired > up to the ceiling, smoke, flames and all, smoke > alarms screaming > away, buckets of water thrown at the altar, etc., > would you believe > afterwards, that everything was wet except > Left-Trunked Ganapati's > Murti. > > Miraculously nothing was burnt either. Only the > sides of the altar > were singed black by the smoke. In flashes, there > were white dhotis > running around the apartment. These were Lord > Ganesha's Ganas, an > indication that His Darshan was received at last. > (It is a fact > that many disciplined bhaktas actually get a glimpse > pf Lord > Ganapati's ganas one way or another.) > > Ironical that the celibate South Indian > MahaGyanaGuruji's birth name > started with the letters : "Gana". I am forbidden > to mention or > spell the rest of his name, to protect the privacy > of his surviving > relatives and their families as well as respect his > wishes to remain > anonymous. > > And....... I had to get past Lord Ganapati before > reaching His > Father, Lord Shiva and Rudraksha. Afterwards, the > jigsaw puzzle > pieced itself together and further enhanced my very > limited > understanding of things. Each day continues to > bring new lessons > and challenges but never obstacles. All problems > contain the seeds > of their own solutions ) This is one of the > lessons learnt too. > > Om Shree Ganeshaya Namah > Om Shree Gurudev Namaha > With infinite love, > Simone > > > > , > Cyra Kanga > === message truncated === Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 wow, what an experience! well, simone, maybe this is a silly question but given this experience why would one choose the left-trunk ganesh if one could choose the right trunk one? thank you. Be Love, egyirba http://www.egyirba.net _____ Simone [syzenith] Friday, December 17, 2004 8:16 AM RBSC : Placement of Ganesh Statue/To Cyra Hi Cyra, Generally before one worships or tries to connect with other deities, Lord Ganesha is first invoked or worshipped. Unless you are Natha, Tantrika or Aghori, etc..,, the aforementioned rule of thumb applies. Hence (again generally according to basic Sanatana Dharma or Hinduism as its commonly termed; Sanatana Dharma is not a religion but rather, A Way of Life; The Divine Path; various definitions of the word Sanatana Dharma): Shree Ganapati's statue should be placed near the front door. Family, friends, visitors, etc. have to get past Lord Ganapati before entering the living room, etc. If they come with good intentions, Ganapati blesses them. If they come with negative vibes, Shree Ganapati deflects those vibes as the Remover of Obtacles. Beloved Ganapati's Murti can also be placed in the home shrine or in the Puja Room. Many traditional Indians reserve a room in the home for Puja only. Nothing else. This is their Sacred Sanctuary, their private temple where some also find "the temple within" (i.e. within the soul, the temple that is innate in all beings). All Ganapati's murtis are Auspicious, whether they have trunks curved to the right or to the left. Generally it is known that the Right Trunked Ganapati Murti is easier to please, placate and worship. This murti is more inclined to be "indulgent" to devotees. The Left Trunk Ganapati Murti is a little more complex to worship but when done with discipline and devotion over long years, the blessings finally gained are well worth all the hassles. Blessings include His Darshan following one everywhere one goes. You see, the Left Trunked Lord is known to put obstacles in the petitioner's path for long years so that he/she may learn difficult lessons, experience traumas and simultaneous problems all at once that severely tests one's resources and as a result, either make or break the worshipper's resolve whether to continue worshipping Him with the Left Trunk. The sincere and disciplined devotee lays all troubles at the Divine Feet of the Left Trunk Lord, surrenders his/her soul and lets Him mould him/her as He pleases. This level of unfailing bhakti always eventually results in a sign that only the bhakta will recognise one day when Left-Trunked Ganapati relents when He sees that the devotee has, despite all sufferings, managed to come out of the long, dark tunnel into the light. It is a very humbling experience for those who have undergone intense worship of the Left-Trunked Ganapati. Once passed through this, His Darshan is bestowed along with boons and unexpected good luck in endeavors. Of course when the bhakta mis-uses or abuses the blessings gained, he/she then goes back to square one with the Left-Trunked Lord, depending on what the person has done to "de-merit" himself/herself. Amongst other things, Lord Ganesha is Keeper of the Akashic Records ) Please note that I can only speak for myself in regards the worship of Left-Trunked Ganapati but not for others. Each of us have different past life karmas and rnanubandhanas as well as karmas created duringt this lifetime, The Keeper of Akashic Records dishes out what He sees as appropriate for each individual. He is never unfair though. However, from the viewpoint of Non-Duality, a bhakta may regard both Left-Trunked and Right-Trunked Ganapati Murtis as "One and the Same". In this perspective, the bhakta is less likely to receive hard knocks but rather gain blessings as he/she is innocently ignorant of the difference between Right or Left-Trunked Ganapati Murtis. In earthly existence, sometimes it pays to be ignorant As for Simone, i don't know if it was good fortune or ill luck that my first MahaGyanaGuru started stooopid me on the Left-Trunk Murti. Things for approximately 18 years were all untold hardships, riches to rags, family fortunes gone down the drain, immediate family members demised one after another, more rags, more poverty, then it got better, then it got worse again..... Over and over like a broken record the story replayed itself in different locations and under different circumstances. All were roller-coasters along the way, big ups and hefty downs. Humungous ebbs and flows. But the night when my humble altar fired up to the ceiling, smoke, flames and all, smoke alarms screaming away, buckets of water thrown at the altar, etc., would you believe afterwards, that everything was wet except Left-Trunked Ganapati's Murti. Miraculously nothing was burnt either. Only the sides of the altar were singed black by the smoke. In flashes, there were white dhotis running around the apartment. These were Lord Ganesha's Ganas, an indication that His Darshan was received at last. (It is a fact that many disciplined bhaktas actually get a glimpse pf Lord Ganapati's ganas one way or another.) Ironical that the celibate South Indian MahaGyanaGuruji's birth name started with the letters : "Gana". I am forbidden to mention or spell the rest of his name, to protect the privacy of his surviving relatives and their families as well as respect his wishes to remain anonymous. And....... I had to get past Lord Ganapati before reaching His Father, Lord Shiva and Rudraksha. Afterwards, the jigsaw puzzle pieced itself together and further enhanced my very limited understanding of things. Each day continues to bring new lessons and challenges but never obstacles. All problems contain the seeds of their own solutions ) This is one of the lessons learnt too. Om Shree Ganeshaya Namah Om Shree Gurudev Namaha With infinite love, Simone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Simoneji Just a stupid question really I am sure, but I am a little confused hence..... When you say left hand and right hand turned trunk, do you judge that based upon the left and right hands of the picture or the devotee's left and right hands standing in front of the picture. Kind regards anand Simone <syzenith wrote: Hi Cyra, Generally before one worships or tries to connect with other deities, Lord Ganesha is first invoked or worshipped. Unless you are Natha, Tantrika or Aghori, etc..,, the aforementioned rule of thumb applies. Hence (again generally according to basic Sanatana Dharma or Hinduism as its commonly termed; Sanatana Dharma is not a religion but rather, A Way of Life; The Divine Path; various definitions of the word Sanatana Dharma): Shree Ganapati's statue should be placed near the front door. Family, friends, visitors, etc. have to get past Lord Ganapati before entering the living room, etc. If they come with good intentions, Ganapati blesses them. If they come with negative vibes, Shree Ganapati deflects those vibes as the Remover of Obtacles. Beloved Ganapati's Murti can also be placed in the home shrine or in the Puja Room. Many traditional Indians reserve a room in the home for Puja only. Nothing else. This is their Sacred Sanctuary, their private temple where some also find "the temple within" (i.e. within the soul, the temple that is innate in all beings). All Ganapati's murtis are Auspicious, whether they have trunks curved to the right or to the left. Generally it is known that the Right Trunked Ganapati Murti is easier to please, placate and worship. This murti is more inclined to be "indulgent" to devotees. The Left Trunk Ganapati Murti is a little more complex to worship but when done with discipline and devotion over long years, the blessings finally gained are well worth all the hassles. Blessings include His Darshan following one everywhere one goes. You see, the Left Trunked Lord is known to put obstacles in the petitioner's path for long years so that he/she may learn difficult lessons, experience traumas and simultaneous problems all at once that severely tests one's resources and as a result, either make or break the worshipper's resolve whether to continue worshipping Him with the Left Trunk. The sincere and disciplined devotee lays all troubles at the Divine Feet of the Left Trunk Lord, surrenders his/her soul and lets Him mould him/her as He pleases. This level of unfailing bhakti always eventually results in a sign that only the bhakta will recognise one day when Left-Trunked Ganapati relents when He sees that the devotee has, despite all sufferings, managed to come out of the long, dark tunnel into the light. It is a very humbling experience for those who have undergone intense worship of the Left-Trunked Ganapati. Once passed through this, His Darshan is bestowed along with boons and unexpected good luck in endeavors. Of course when the bhakta mis-uses or abuses the blessings gained, he/she then goes back to square one with the Left-Trunked Lord, depending on what the person has done to "de-merit" himself/herself. Amongst other things, Lord Ganesha is Keeper of the Akashic Records ) Please note that I can only speak for myself in regards the worship of Left-Trunked Ganapati but not for others. Each of us have different past life karmas and rnanubandhanas as well as karmas created duringt this lifetime, The Keeper of Akashic Records dishes out what He sees as appropriate for each individual. He is never unfair though. However, from the viewpoint of Non-Duality, a bhakta may regard both Left-Trunked and Right-Trunked Ganapati Murtis as "One and the Same". In this perspective, the bhakta is less likely to receive hard knocks but rather gain blessings as he/she is innocently ignorant of the difference between Right or Left-Trunked Ganapati Murtis. In earthly existence, sometimes it pays to be ignorant As for Simone, i don't know if it was good fortune or ill luck that my first MahaGyanaGuru started stooopid me on the Left-Trunk Murti. Things for approximately 18 years were all untold hardships, riches to rags, family fortunes gone down the drain, immediate family members demised one after another, more rags, more poverty, then it got better, then it got worse again..... Over and over like a broken record the story replayed itself in different locations and under different circumstances. All were roller-coasters along the way, big ups and hefty downs. Humungous ebbs and flows. But the night when my humble altar fired up to the ceiling, smoke, flames and all, smoke alarms screaming away, buckets of water thrown at the altar, etc., would you believe afterwards, that everything was wet except Left-Trunked Ganapati's Murti. Miraculously nothing was burnt either. Only the sides of the altar were singed black by the smoke. In flashes, there were white dhotis running around the apartment. These were Lord Ganesha's Ganas, an indication that His Darshan was received at last. (It is a fact that many disciplined bhaktas actually get a glimpse pf Lord Ganapati's ganas one way or another.) Ironical that the celibate South Indian MahaGyanaGuruji's birth name started with the letters : "Gana". I am forbidden to mention or spell the rest of his name, to protect the privacy of his surviving relatives and their families as well as respect his wishes to remain anonymous. And....... I had to get past Lord Ganapati before reaching His Father, Lord Shiva and Rudraksha. Afterwards, the jigsaw puzzle pieced itself together and further enhanced my very limited understanding of things. Each day continues to bring new lessons and challenges but never obstacles. All problems contain the seeds of their own solutions ) This is one of the lessons learnt too. Om Shree Ganeshaya Namah Om Shree Gurudev Namaha With infinite love, Simone , Cyra Kanga <crkanga> wrote: > > Simoneji, > Which corner of the house is most auspicious to put > Ganesh's statue? Is it true that a Ganpati with the > trunk on the right instead of left is more auspicious. > Please enlighten with your abindance enlightmenbt. > Warmest, > Cyra To send an email to: / ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! 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Thank you - Cyra Kanga Friday, December 17, 2004 11:27 PM Re: RBSC : Placement of Ganesh Statue/To Cyra Dear Simone, Your wealth of knowledge leaves me in awe. Wow! I think you should now compile your enlightenment in to books for further generations to come. Thanks from the bottom of my heart. I bow humbly to you. Warmest always and deep respect. Cyra --- Simone <syzenith wrote: > > Hi Cyra, > > Generally before one worships or tries to connect > with other > deities, Lord Ganesha is first invoked or > worshipped. Unless you > are Natha, Tantrika or Aghori, etc..,, the > aforementioned rule of > thumb applies. > > Hence (again generally according to basic Sanatana > Dharma or > Hinduism as its commonly termed; Sanatana Dharma is > not a religion > but rather, A Way of Life; The Divine Path; various > definitions of > the word Sanatana Dharma): > > Shree Ganapati's statue should be placed near the > front door. > Family, friends, visitors, etc. have to get past > Lord Ganapati > before entering the living room, etc. If they come > with good > intentions, Ganapati blesses them. If they come > with negative > vibes, Shree Ganapati deflects those vibes as the > Remover of > Obtacles. > > Beloved Ganapati's Murti can also be placed in the > home shrine or in > the Puja Room. Many traditional Indians reserve a > room in the home > for Puja only. Nothing else. This is their Sacred > Sanctuary, their > private temple where some also find "the temple > within" (i.e. within > the soul, the temple that is innate in all beings). > > All Ganapati's murtis are Auspicious, whether they > have trunks > curved to the right or to the left. Generally it is > known that the > Right Trunked Ganapati Murti is easier to please, > placate and > worship. This murti is more inclined to be > "indulgent" to devotees. > > The Left Trunk Ganapati Murti is a little more > complex to worship > but when done with discipline and devotion over long > years, the > blessings finally gained are well worth all the > hassles. Blessings > include His Darshan following one everywhere one > goes. > > You see, the Left Trunked Lord is known to put > obstacles in the > petitioner's path for long years so that he/she may > learn difficult > lessons, experience traumas and simultaneous > problems all at once > that severely tests one's resources and as a result, > either make or > break the worshipper's resolve whether to continue > worshipping Him > with the Left Trunk. > > The sincere and disciplined devotee lays all > troubles at the Divine > Feet of the Left Trunk Lord, surrenders his/her soul > and lets Him > mould him/her as He pleases. > > This level of unfailing bhakti always eventually > results in a sign > that only the bhakta will recognise one day when > Left-Trunked > Ganapati relents when He sees that the devotee has, > despite all > sufferings, managed to come out of the long, dark > tunnel into the > light. > > It is a very humbling experience for those who have > undergone > intense worship of the Left-Trunked Ganapati. Once > passed through > this, His Darshan is bestowed along with boons and > unexpected good > luck in endeavors. > > Of course when the bhakta mis-uses or abuses the > blessings gained, > he/she then goes back to square one with the > Left-Trunked Lord, > depending on what the person has done to "de-merit" > himself/herself. Amongst other things, Lord Ganesha > is Keeper of > the Akashic Records ) > > Please note that I can only speak for myself in > regards the worship > of Left-Trunked Ganapati but not for others. Each > of us have > different past life karmas and rnanubandhanas as > well as karmas > created duringt this lifetime, The Keeper of Akashic > Records dishes > out what He sees as appropriate for each individual. > He is never > unfair though. > > However, from the viewpoint of Non-Duality, a bhakta > may regard both > Left-Trunked and Right-Trunked Ganapati Murtis as > "One and the > Same". In this perspective, the bhakta is less > likely to receive > hard knocks but rather gain blessings as he/she is > innocently > ignorant of the difference between Right or > Left-Trunked Ganapati > Murtis. In earthly existence, sometimes it pays to > be ignorant > > As for Simone, i don't know if it was good fortune > or ill luck that > my first MahaGyanaGuru started stooopid me on the > Left-Trunk Murti. > Things for approximately 18 years were all untold > hardships, riches > to rags, family fortunes gone down the drain, > immediate family > members demised one after another, more rags, more > poverty, then it > got better, then it got worse again..... Over and > over like a broken > record the story replayed itself in different > locations and under > different circumstances. > > All were roller-coasters along the way, big ups and > hefty downs. > Humungous ebbs and flows. But the night when my > humble altar fired > up to the ceiling, smoke, flames and all, smoke > alarms screaming > away, buckets of water thrown at the altar, etc., > would you believe > afterwards, that everything was wet except > Left-Trunked Ganapati's > Murti. > > Miraculously nothing was burnt either. Only the > sides of the altar > were singed black by the smoke. In flashes, there > were white dhotis > running around the apartment. These were Lord > Ganesha's Ganas, an > indication that His Darshan was received at last. > (It is a fact > that many disciplined bhaktas actually get a glimpse > pf Lord > Ganapati's ganas one way or another.) > > Ironical that the celibate South Indian > MahaGyanaGuruji's birth name > started with the letters : "Gana". I am forbidden > to mention or > spell the rest of his name, to protect the privacy > of his surviving > relatives and their families as well as respect his > wishes to remain > anonymous. > > And....... I had to get past Lord Ganapati before > reaching His > Father, Lord Shiva and Rudraksha. Afterwards, the > jigsaw puzzle > pieced itself together and further enhanced my very > limited > understanding of things. Each day continues to > bring new lessons > and challenges but never obstacles. All problems > contain the seeds > of their own solutions ) This is one of the > lessons learnt too. > > Om Shree Ganeshaya Namah > Om Shree Gurudev Namaha > With infinite love, > Simone > > > > , > Cyra Kanga > === message truncated === Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail./mail_250 To send an email to: / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Allow me to give my 2 piece worth of knowledge which is just heresay. I believe the right hand side trunks Ganpatis are rare because legend has it that after the craftsman made it he died. Now this is just an old legend - Simoneji may correct me on that. I am just an ordinary fool whose knowledge is either limited or heresay. Cyra --- Berijoy <berijoy wrote: > > wow, what an experience! > > well, simone, maybe this is a silly question but > given this experience why > would one choose the left-trunk ganesh if one could > choose the right trunk > one? thank you. > > Be Love, > egyirba > http://www.egyirba.net > > > _____ > > Simone [syzenith] > Friday, December 17, 2004 8:16 AM > > RBSC : Placement of Ganesh Statue/To Cyra > > > > Hi Cyra, > > Generally before one worships or tries to connect > with other > deities, Lord Ganesha is first invoked or > worshipped. Unless you > are Natha, Tantrika or Aghori, etc..,, the > aforementioned rule of > thumb applies. > > Hence (again generally according to basic Sanatana > Dharma or > Hinduism as its commonly termed; Sanatana Dharma is > not a religion > but rather, A Way of Life; The Divine Path; various > definitions of > the word Sanatana Dharma): > > Shree Ganapati's statue should be placed near the > front door. > Family, friends, visitors, etc. have to get past > Lord Ganapati > before entering the living room, etc. If they come > with good > intentions, Ganapati blesses them. If they come > with negative > vibes, Shree Ganapati deflects those vibes as the > Remover of > Obtacles. > > Beloved Ganapati's Murti can also be placed in the > home shrine or in > the Puja Room. Many traditional Indians reserve a > room in the home > for Puja only. Nothing else. This is their Sacred > Sanctuary, their > private temple where some also find "the temple > within" (i.e. within > the soul, the temple that is innate in all beings). > > All Ganapati's murtis are Auspicious, whether they > have trunks > curved to the right or to the left. Generally it is > known that the > Right Trunked Ganapati Murti is easier to please, > placate and > worship. This murti is more inclined to be > "indulgent" to devotees. > > The Left Trunk Ganapati Murti is a little more > complex to worship > but when done with discipline and devotion over long > years, the > blessings finally gained are well worth all the > hassles. Blessings > include His Darshan following one everywhere one > goes. > > You see, the Left Trunked Lord is known to put > obstacles in the > petitioner's path for long years so that he/she may > learn difficult > lessons, experience traumas and simultaneous > problems all at once > that severely tests one's resources and as a result, > either make or > break the worshipper's resolve whether to continue > worshipping Him > with the Left Trunk. > > The sincere and disciplined devotee lays all > troubles at the Divine > Feet of the Left Trunk Lord, surrenders his/her soul > and lets Him > mould him/her as He pleases. > > This level of unfailing bhakti always eventually > results in a sign > that only the bhakta will recognise one day when > Left-Trunked > Ganapati relents when He sees that the devotee has, > despite all > sufferings, managed to come out of the long, dark > tunnel into the > light. > > It is a very humbling experience for those who have > undergone > intense worship of the Left-Trunked Ganapati. Once > passed through > this, His Darshan is bestowed along with boons and > unexpected good > luck in endeavors. > > Of course when the bhakta mis-uses or abuses the > blessings gained, > he/she then goes back to square one with the > Left-Trunked Lord, > depending on what the person has done to "de-merit" > himself/herself. Amongst other things, Lord Ganesha > is Keeper of > the Akashic Records ) > > Please note that I can only speak for myself in > regards the worship > of Left-Trunked Ganapati but not for others. Each > of us have > different past life karmas and rnanubandhanas as > well as karmas > created duringt this lifetime, The Keeper of Akashic > Records dishes > out what He sees as appropriate for each individual. > He is never > unfair though. > > However, from the viewpoint of Non-Duality, a bhakta > may regard both > Left-Trunked and Right-Trunked Ganapati Murtis as > "One and the > Same". In this perspective, the bhakta is less > likely to receive > hard knocks but rather gain blessings as he/she is > innocently > ignorant of the difference between Right or > Left-Trunked Ganapati > Murtis. In earthly existence, sometimes it pays to > be ignorant > > As for Simone, i don't know if it was good fortune > or ill luck that > my first MahaGyanaGuru started stooopid me on the > Left-Trunk Murti. > Things for approximately 18 years were all untold > hardships, riches > to rags, family fortunes gone down the drain, > immediate family > members demised one after another, more rags, more > poverty, then it > got better, then it got worse again..... Over and > over like a broken > record the story replayed itself in different > locations and under > different circumstances. > > All were roller-coasters along the way, big ups and > hefty downs. > Humungous ebbs and flows. But the night when my > humble altar fired > up to the ceiling, smoke, flames and all, smoke > alarms screaming > away, buckets of water thrown at the altar, etc., > would you believe > afterwards, that everything was wet except > Left-Trunked Ganapati's > Murti. > > Miraculously nothing was burnt either. Only the > sides of the altar > were singed black by the smoke. In flashes, there > were white dhotis > running around the apartment. These were Lord > Ganesha's Ganas, an > indication that His Darshan was received at last. > (It is a fact > that many disciplined bhaktas actually get a glimpse > pf Lord > Ganapati's ganas one way or another.) > > Ironical that the celibate South Indian > MahaGyanaGuruji's birth name > started with the letters : "Gana". I am forbidden > to mention or > spell the rest of his name, to protect the privacy > of his surviving > relatives and their families as well as respect his > wishes to remain > anonymous. > > === message truncated === Jazz up your holiday email with celebrity designs. Learn more. http://celebrity.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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