Shani Dosha/Saturn Return/Hiro

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Vanakkam Kiranji,

 

Very, very humbly:

 

Thank you for your input. You are right about Sade Sathi (occurs 3

times in one lifetime). MahaDasha of Shani can have terrible

results for certain people, not all are affected to the same

degrees. Hence unfinished karma and rnanubandha comes into play

(leela or maya) as lesson from Lord Shani. These can be seen

as "challenges" and test of character and whether one can rise above

it or not. It also can be used either as stumbling blocks or

stepping stones; depends on individual perception, acceptance,

surrender, faith,etc. and how they have been taught and their

background, guru, Ishdevata, etc. All are connected to some degree.

Hence we are conditioned to see only what we can see (whether

clearly or otherwise) or "would" like to see.

 

I did not say Shani is bad. Humbly I regard Shani as the Guru of

Lessons. And for example, Shukracharya as Guru of Semen (Semen

Teacher), not the physical fluid of man but the "Ojas", the divine

essence. Indeed Shani is an impartial judge also. But it is his

natural duty nevertheless to inflict certain situations on humans

for their own good, for their ongoing evolvement.

 

Although karmic influences are brought forth to be neutralized, how

many of us would know the difference when stuck right in the middle

of the influences? Many of us, during such periods, cannot see the

forests for the trees. Even when God taps us on the shoulder,

sometimes we would not even know how to recognize Him

 

Yes Shani can also give great and bountiful blessings when pleased.

Those who do not dread Him but pray to Him befiting a God, Guru and

Friend, will reap benefits, hence recitation of His mantra and

offerings. Above all, sincere devotion.

 

How do we seek Lord Rudra's intervention so He can command and then

Shani depletes negative affects? As are many paths to the Summit,

there are many methods to seeking the Grace of Lord Rudra and also

of Lord Shani. May I enquire which method you would use, to gain

Lord Rudra's blessing that He is inclined to command or intervene?

 

In my case my humble inclination is to seek darshan from 11 mukhi

rudraksha - murti (amongst other methods; still testing others with

students and patients) as this Rudraksha contains the 11 Rudras. At

the same time, 11 mukhi is Lord Hanuman bead. Some old texts aeons

ago were shown to me by Sri Sri MahaGyanaGuruji, (who kindly

explained in English in 1967 and 1968 respectively after i buried my

mother and grandmother) that mentioned Hanuman's mace controls 8

planets and his tail controls Shani who was not able to affect him,

though only once when Hanuman was flying on some task and began

losing ojas, then realised it was Shani's effect. Since then,

Hanuman was not known to have let Shani affect Him ever again.

 

(To other respected friends here:::

Some kindly friends here may have access to this particular

reference or indeed read it somewhere or studied it in Devanagari;

if so, please can you quote the relevant verses for us here in

English? Will be highly appreciated..thanking you in advance.)

 

In recent years, there is a trilogy of books written by Dr. Robert

E. Svoboda titled "Aghora: At The Left Hand of God", and another 2

whose tites I cannot remember. I was told by a friend who read

them, that one of the volumes contains the same info as told to me

in 1967 and 1968. Thus, I salute Dr. Svoboda's books and efforts to

share with the world what his Guruji and Spiritual Father, Sri Sri

Vilmananda taught him during his days between Pune studying Ayurveda

and Mumbai at the feet of his guru. Ok, to some folks, I was told

his books read like fiction but after hearing certain references, I

humbly tend to believe they are not fictitious although names in the

book were changed for protecting the privacy of characters mentioned

in his books.

 

Please note: I am not a practicing Jyotishi but rather an obscure

gypsy in the shadows who studies from everyone and everything.

Everyone here and Everything are my Teachers. I salute the divine in

all.

 

Even if I were ever to have some tiny knowledge of Jyotish, I would

be inclined to take into account various other aspects of a person's

birth details and draw from all sources before making a suggestion

for a remedy.

 

Om Namah Shivaya

Your humble foolish servant

Simone

 

 

, Usha Kiran

<yashodaisy21> wrote:

> Dear Simonji,

> Vanakkam,

>

> Shani dasha occurs once in a lifetime. Where as transit of shani

in 12th, 1st & 2nd house from Moon's position in the chart is known

as 'sade sathi' or 'seven & half years' of Shani's transit. It takes

approximately two & half years for Shani to transit a rashi ie a

zodiac sing of 30 degrees. This can occur three times in a person's

life. Though a malefic in nature, Shani is not a bad planet. He is

an impartial judge. During his transit in the above said rashi's,

one's Karmic balances are brought forth only to be neutralized.

During this period, in between Shani is supposed to give unexpected

bounties of good blessings. One need not dread him. Reciting Shani

mantra will tone down the miseries. And at Lord Rudra's command

Shani's bad effects, rather our own bad karma's are depleted during

this transit.

>

> Pranams

> Kiran

>

>

> Simone <syzenith> wrote:

> Naamste Hiroji,

>

> Not necessary to thank me, please thank Lord Shiva instead

>

> i remember you from long time ago from Canada ) Hope I'm

talking

> to right person, that is if I'm not mistaken about your ID..

>

> For wearing, there are small beads of 7 mukhi available between

7mm

> to 10mm I think..... I'm not 100% sure about exact size. Please

> look at "Rare Beads Malas" on www.rudraksha-ratna.com If wearing

> small beads, this strand is 108+1 beads (you can ask for custom-

> making to 54+1 if you prefer; Please consult Mrs. Neeta about

this).

>

> 27+1 beads is not for wearing; its for japa only.. It is too

short

> to wear but useful for Shani mantra. Four rounds of 27 beads will

> total 108 times of mantra.

>

> Based on ancient text and in ImVhO:

>

> Shani is the Guru of Lessons amongst many other things. Nobody can

> escape the gaze of Shani, not even the Rishis. A person goes

through

> Shani Dasha 3 times in samsara or during each human lifetime.

> Whether the dasha is severe or not depends on karma and

> rnanubandhana. One other assistance that can be sought if one is

> undergoing severe Shani Dasha, is to seek blessings of Lord

Hanuman.

> His mace controls 9 planets. His tail controls Shani. Shani does

not

> know how to "sit on" Hanuman Hanuman knows how to flip Shani's

> face downside to avert Shani's gaze.

>

> Om Shree Gurudev Namaha

> Simone

>

>

> , hiralkumar

parikh

> <happyhirohina> wrote:

> >

> >

> > hi simone how are you ? thnx for reply. i appricate. i am

planing

> to wear 7 mukhi mala. 108 beads too long (big) because i am

wearing

> siddh malatoo. i wouldlike to wear 27 beads one, bur question why

> you suggest 27 plus one bead ?? what is reason behind. please

> explain to me. if you have any knowledge or experience about shani

> dasa please share with me.

> >

> > thnx hiro