Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Bright Greetings Jeremy, In order to wear gemstone successfully, it is best done under the guidance or "prescription" of a Jyotish astrologer. I'm sure there are certain gems that are safe for you to wear and which will not cause negative effects. This is the case for every individual horoscope. Certain gems are suitable for one person but not so for another. To find out what is appropriate for yourself, please seek a ratna recommendation from www.rudraksha-ratna.com Click on the link at the right side of the webpage and a form will appear. Type in your details and submit the form. The astrologer will get back to you when he is ready. Wishing you bountiful blessings! Om Namah Shivaya Simone , jeremy tan <j7@k...> wrote: > namaskar simone > thank you for your kind words and advise. I shall not wear those coral beads for the time being. I hope I will be able to wear them someday .. soon. you see, I luv coral. and I luv ruby & blue sapphire too. strange that these gemstone attraction is not a positive one. > once again simone, thank you and my well wishes to you too. > > jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 namaskar simone, thank you once again for your concern. I will look for someone to advise me, and will check out the site as suggested. meanwhile here's wishing you compassion and happiness always in your heart. jeremy --- "Simone" <syzenith wrote: ___________ Powered by the worlds shortest email address ... http://www.k.st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Dear Venkataraman jee, I fully agree with you when you say Saturn in 8th house gives the person a negative outlook, but I am sure you will agree that in case the lagan is Pisces and saturn in 8th house(exalted) and venus in 12th house will act quite different though, specially creating two different vipareet raj yogas i.e. 8th lord in 12th and 12th in 8th. Though both are lords of evil houses but at the same time have strong capacity to shower their blessings specially in their majors & subs i.e. 19 & 20 years respectively. Well all I want to explain here is that may be in referece to this horoscope in question it is correct but again it will be different for every chart. I am sure you will agree, correct me if I am wrong. Om Namha Shivaya, Sundeep Kumbakonam Sambasiva Venkataraman <kudanthaisavenkataraman wrote: Dear friend, Well. This is regarding coral, ruby and blue sapphire bringing negative results. Though the field is vast, I shall try to present some fundamental aspects here before the learned members. Not only these three gems, any gem can cause negative results under certain circumstances. All the planets (including Sun, a star, treated as a planet for astological purposes), release energy. We get them mostly mingled with Sun's or moon's rays. We need all those energies and we have generally the ability to absorb and assimilate them. Each individual is unique. In this ability to absorb and assimilate the energies reaching us also, there are differences among us. There has to be a balance in this. Some persons may not have this balance. If a person has Saturn in his eighth bhava, he is unable to grasp the Saturn's energy properly. Saturn's energy is needed by us, for working. The ability to persevere comes to us from Saturn. When Saturn is at the time of birth, in the eighth house, the individual has a drawback. Similarly, when the Saturn is traversing the eighth house, ie., the zone between 210 and 240 degrees, the individual is unable to get the full benefit of Saturn's energy. Even a slight failure appears to him very big. Even a small work appears to him too difficult. He suffers. Without understanding our deficiency in the light of Sastras inherited by us, we curse Saturn and other planets, as though they are harming us. We do not hesitate to call them 'malefic'. Whether I could get a help from a friend or not, depends on three factors: (1) He should be able to provide the help sought for by me. (2) He should be willing to help me. (3) Last but not the least, I should be able to contact him and commuinicate with him. It is like this. I know Ms.Simone is a good friend and she would help me when I have a need. She also has the ability to help me. In a particular situation, I am unable to contact her. I am in an unknown place and I have lost her contact number. Or, I am told that she has gone on a tour and could not be contacted. Now, can I blame her that she let me down? I should have taken the precaution of telling her sufficiently in advance about my need. I should have preserved my ability to contact her in case of urgent necessity. Like that, we should evaluate ourselves and wherever necessary, we should take special steps to receive the specific energy we are unable to absorb. Energies are abundantly available. God's Grace is boundless. But we are leading a life of limitations. We should take efforts to break ourselves free from limitations or at least to manage them. Now, coming to our friend having Saturn in the eighth bhava, the blue sapphire enables him to absorb the Saturn's energy at a physical level. This does help. To overcome any difficulty, the Sastras have provided us three means, viz., Mani, Mantra and Oushada. All these or any combination of these should be chosen after analysing the potentials of the individual concerned. If there is no lacking on the part of the individual in absorbing the Saturn's energy and if he wears the blue sapphire, what happens? He finds himself toiling without sense. His work is not supported by proper plans or intelligence. Such work does not bring happiness. Similarly, a person with a type of imbalance, wears a navaratna ring, the position no doubt increases in size; and the imbalance also increases. He was earning 1000 dollars and incurring a debt of 100 dollars. Now, he would earn 10000 dollars and incur a debt of 1000 dollars. Does this solve his problem? Another example: A person is lacking in business skilles. Say, he belongs to Mesha lagnam. Mercury is in Meenam. Mars (Lagnadhipan) and Veenus (Dhana sthanadhipan) are in Kanya (6th house). Moon and Jupiter are in Katakam. Now if he wears a silver ring, with a suitable diamond in the centre sandwiched by an emerald and coral, that would certainly help him. Somebody tells him 'Guru is Dhanakarakan. You wear a pushparagam and you would gain lot of money.' Guru (Jupiter) is the lord of Bhagyasthana and Vrayasthana for this person. He is in the suka bhava in the company of Moon, perfectly balanced. If he wears Pushparaga stone (10 carats), no doubt he would earn more money but would start spending disproportionately on physical pleasures. The gems should be chosen after a thorough astrological evaluation of the person concerned. The objective should be to restore and maintain balance in absorbing and assimilation of cosmic energy. Balance is vital principle of life. Rudraksha is the best mani. It covers all the levels of life, viz., physical, mental, intellectual and spiritual. But it should be worn with devotion to the Almighty. Otherwise, it is like having a very costly and powerful car, without knowing how to use it. Devotion cannot be just like that created in anybody. This comes through several samskaras in several births. Ms.Simone, born in China and living in Australia writes on Lalita Trisati with involvement and expertise. How many persons living in India can claim to be equal to her in this? It is all poorvajanma samskara. Hence the need for all types of gems. With best wishes, K S Venkataraman On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 Simone wrote : >Namaste Jeremy, >Sorry for late response; recently been both busy and unwell. >It is a good idea to offer your coral mala to Lord Ganesha as coral >can be used for worshipping the Remover of Obstacles. Since the >astrologer has adviced that you refrain from wearing coral, it will >be wise to follow his/her advice. >Very sorry to hear that your job ends this month. Please have faith >that you will find a better one in due course. Pls pray to Lord >Ganesha for Him to remove obstacles in your path and for blessings >to come into your life. >Theoretically and from an orthodox angle, yes, it is possible for >coral, blue sapphire and ruby to produce negative effects for some >people. >Mr. Alan Scherr, are you around? If you are, please kindly >enlighten us about the abovementioned stones. All comments from >yourself and other friends will be highly appreciated, thanks in >advance. >Jeremy, wishing you good luck and every success in the career sector >and all aspects of life. >Om Namah Shivaya >Simone >, jeremy tan ><j7@k...> wrote: >> >> namaskar! >> >> last month I got myself a coral + rudraskha mala. then I wrote to >ask advise for free rudraskha recommendation giving my date of birth >and so on. I was advise to stay away from the coral mala. now I'm >so unsure what to do. >> >> I stop wearing it and hang it on Lord Ganesh at my alter. when I >first wore it, I felt good but now .... you see, I just lost my job. >so from next month I'm without job. I'm not blaming anything but I >hope to get a new job asap and can do without any further bad >influence if any. also I use to wear a red ruby ring. the advise >is to stay away from ruby or any sapphire. >> >> is it possible that coral can produce negative result for some? >and as well as ruby and sapphires? >> >> pls advise as I'm lost >> >> krsnadev >> >> >> >> ___________ >> Powered by the worlds shortest email address ... >http://www.k.st >> >> >> >To send an email to: > Sponsor > > Links > >/ > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to the > Terms of Service >. > KSVenkataraman To send an email to: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Dear Mr. Venkataraman, after a long time I am reading a most sensible and balanced interpretation of the need (or not) for gems. Also agree with you heartily on the correct attitude and approach to wearing Rudraksha. I would like to consult you separately for advice on a correct combination of gems formy husband, who is going through a bad phase currently career-wise. Is that possible? If you kindly agree, then I could e-mail you his horoscope details. Please also feel free to say no, I would not like to impose. Regards, Janaki Srinath , "Kumbakonam Sambasiva Venkataraman" <kudanthaisavenkataraman@r...> wrote: > Dear friend, > > Well. This is regarding coral, ruby and blue sapphire bringing negative results. Though the field is vast, I shall try to present some fundamental aspects here before the learned members. > > Not only these three gems, any gem can cause negative results under certain circumstances. > > All the planets (including Sun, a star, treated as a planet for astological purposes), release energy. We get them mostly mingled with Sun's or moon's rays. We need all those energies and we have generally the ability to absorb and assimilate them. > > Each individual is unique. In this ability to absorb and assimilate the energies reaching us also, there are differences among us. There has to be a balance in this. Some persons may not have this balance. If a person has Saturn in his eighth bhava, he is unable to grasp the Saturn's energy properly. Saturn's energy is needed by us, for working. The ability to persevere comes to us from Saturn. > > When Saturn is at the time of birth, in the eighth house, the individual has a drawback. Similarly, when the Saturn is traversing the eighth house, ie., the zone between 210 and 240 degrees, the individual is unable to get the full benefit of Saturn's energy. Even a slight failure appears to him very big. Even a small work appears to him too difficult. He suffers. > > Without understanding our deficiency in the light of Sastras inherited by us, we curse Saturn and other planets, as though they are harming us. We do not hesitate to call them 'malefic'. > > Whether I could get a help from a friend or not, depends on three factors: (1) He should be able to provide the help sought for by me. (2) He should be willing to help me. (3) Last but not the least, I should be able to contact him and commuinicate with him. > > It is like this. I know Ms.Simone is a good friend and she would help me when I have a need. She also has the ability to help me. In a particular situation, I am unable to contact her. I am in an unknown place and I have lost her contact number. Or, I am told that she has gone on a tour and could not be contacted. Now, can I blame her that she let me down? I should have taken the precaution of telling her sufficiently in advance about my need. I should have preserved my ability to contact her in case of urgent necessity. > > Like that, we should evaluate ourselves and wherever necessary, we should take special steps to receive the specific energy we are unable to absorb. Energies are abundantly available. God's Grace is boundless. But we are leading a life of limitations. We should take efforts to break ourselves free from limitations or at least to manage them. > > Now, coming to our friend having Saturn in the eighth bhava, the blue sapphire enables him to absorb the Saturn's energy at a physical level. This does help. > > To overcome any difficulty, the Sastras have provided us three means, viz., Mani, Mantra and Oushada. All these or any combination of these should be chosen after analysing the potentials of the individual concerned. > > If there is no lacking on the part of the individual in absorbing the Saturn's energy and if he wears the blue sapphire, what happens? He finds himself toiling without sense. His work is not supported by proper plans or intelligence. Such work does not bring happiness. > > Similarly, a person with a type of imbalance, wears a navaratna ring, the position no doubt increases in size; and the imbalance also increases. He was earning 1000 dollars and incurring a debt of 100 dollars. Now, he would earn 10000 dollars and incur a debt of 1000 dollars. Does this solve his problem? > > Another example: A person is lacking in business skilles. Say, he belongs to Mesha lagnam. Mercury is in Meenam. Mars (Lagnadhipan) and Veenus (Dhana sthanadhipan) are in Kanya (6th house). Moon and Jupiter are in Katakam. Now if he wears a silver ring, with a suitable diamond in the centre sandwiched by an emerald and coral, that would certainly help him. Somebody tells him 'Guru is Dhanakarakan. You wear a pushparagam and you would gain lot of money.' Guru (Jupiter) is the lord of Bhagyasthana and Vrayasthana for this person. He is in the suka bhava in the company of Moon, perfectly balanced. If he wears Pushparaga stone (10 carats), no doubt he would earn more money but would start spending disproportionately on physical pleasures. > > The gems should be chosen after a thorough astrological evaluation of the person concerned. The objective should be to restore and maintain balance in absorbing and assimilation of cosmic energy. Balance is vital principle of life. > > Rudraksha is the best mani. It covers all the levels of life, viz., physical, mental, intellectual and spiritual. But it should be worn with devotion to the Almighty. Otherwise, it is like having a very costly and powerful car, without knowing how to use it. Devotion cannot be just like that created in anybody. This comes through several samskaras in several births. Ms.Simone, born in China and living in Australia writes on Lalita Trisati with involvement and expertise. How many persons living in India can claim to be equal to her in this? It is all poorvajanma samskara. Hence the need for all types of gems. > > With best wishes, > > K S Venkataraman > > > On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 Simone wrote : > >Namaste Jeremy, > >Sorry for late response; recently been both busy and unwell. > >It is a good idea to offer your coral mala to Lord Ganesha as coral > >can be used for worshipping the Remover of Obstacles. Since the > >astrologer has adviced that you refrain from wearing coral, it will > >be wise to follow his/her advice. > >Very sorry to hear that your job ends this month. Please have faith > >that you will find a better one in due course. Pls pray to Lord > >Ganesha for Him to remove obstacles in your path and for blessings > >to come into your life. > >Theoretically and from an orthodox angle, yes, it is possible for > >coral, blue sapphire and ruby to produce negative effects for some > >people. > >Mr. Alan Scherr, are you around? If you are, please kindly > >enlighten us about the abovementioned stones. All comments from > >yourself and other friends will be highly appreciated, thanks in > >advance. > >Jeremy, wishing you good luck and every success in the career sector > >and all aspects of life. > >Om Namah Shivaya > >Simone > >, jeremy tan > ><j7@k...> wrote: > >> > >> namaskar! > >> > >> last month I got myself a coral + rudraskha mala. then I wrote to > >ask advise for free rudraskha recommendation giving my date of birth > >and so on. I was advise to stay away from the coral mala. now I'm > >so unsure what to do. > >> > >> I stop wearing it and hang it on Lord Ganesh at my alter. when I > >first wore it, I felt good but now .... you see, I just lost my job. > >so from next month I'm without job. I'm not blaming anything but I > >hope to get a new job asap and can do without any further bad > >influence if any. also I use to wear a red ruby ring. the advise > >is to stay away from ruby or any sapphire. > >> > >> is it possible that coral can produce negative result for some? > >and as well as ruby and sapphires? > >> > >> pls advise as I'm lost > >> > >> krsnadev > >> > >> > >> > >> ___________ > >> Powered by the worlds shortest email address ... > >http://www.k.st > >> > >> > >> > >To send an email to: - > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > >/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of Service > >. > > > > > KSVenkataraman > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 thank you so much both Venkataramanjii and sundeep babbarjii. thank you for your comments. though I must admit that I don't really understand the house thingy, I do appreciate it all the same. meanwhile I just avoid the 3 gems, ruby, blue sapphire & coral, and wait till I meet someone whom can recommend me the appropriate gemstone suitable for me. sorry, I'm really bad with the astrology thing. I understand that jade & amethyst can be worn for anyone. wonder if that is true. blessings+ jeremy --- Sundeep Babbar <sundeep_babbar wrote: ___________ Powered by the worlds shortest email address ... http://www.k.st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Dear mr Venkataraman, Do you advise on wearing gems and can we consult ytou professionally on this? What are the charges etc. Please let me know as I am intersted. Thank you. You seem to be very knowlegeable in this matter. Cyra --- coolj_50 <coolj_50 wrote: > Dear Mr. Venkataraman, > after a long time I am reading a most sensible and > balanced > interpretation of the need (or not) for gems. Also > agree with you > heartily on the correct attitude and approach to > wearing Rudraksha. > > I would like to consult you separately for advice on > a correct > combination of gems formy husband, who is going > through a bad phase > currently career-wise. Is that possible? If you > kindly agree, then > I could e-mail you his horoscope details. Please > also feel free to > say no, I would not like to impose. > Regards, > Janaki Srinath > > , > "Kumbakonam > Sambasiva Venkataraman" > <kudanthaisavenkataraman@r...> wrote: > > Dear friend, > > > > Well. This is regarding coral, ruby and blue > sapphire bringing > negative results. Though the field is vast, I shall > try to present > some fundamental aspects here before the learned > members. > > > > Not only these three gems, any gem can cause > negative results > under certain circumstances. > > > > All the planets (including Sun, a star, treated as > a planet for > astological purposes), release energy. We get them > mostly mingled > with Sun's or moon's rays. We need all those > energies and we have > generally the ability to absorb and assimilate them. > > > > > Each individual is unique. In this ability to > absorb and > assimilate the energies reaching us also, there are > differences > among us. There has to be a balance in this. Some > persons may not > have this balance. If a person has Saturn in his > eighth bhava, he is > unable to grasp the Saturn's energy properly. > Saturn's energy is > needed by us, for working. The ability to persevere > comes to us from > Saturn. > > > > When Saturn is at the time of birth, in the eighth > house, the > individual has a drawback. Similarly, when the > Saturn is traversing > the eighth house, ie., the zone between 210 and 240 > degrees, the > individual is unable to get the full benefit of > Saturn's energy. > Even a slight failure appears to him very big. Even > a small work > appears to him too difficult. He suffers. > > > > Without understanding our deficiency in the light > of Sastras > inherited by us, we curse Saturn and other planets, > as though they > are harming us. We do not hesitate to call them > 'malefic'. > > > > Whether I could get a help from a friend or not, > depends on three > factors: (1) He should be able to provide the help > sought for by me. > (2) He should be willing to help me. (3) Last but > not the least, I > should be able to contact him and commuinicate with > him. > > > > It is like this. I know Ms.Simone is a good friend > and she would > help me when I have a need. She also has the ability > to help me. In > a particular situation, I am unable to contact her. > I am in an > unknown place and I have lost her contact number. > Or, I am told that > she has gone on a tour and could not be contacted. > Now, can I blame > her that she let me down? I should have taken the > precaution of > telling her sufficiently in advance about my need. I > should have > preserved my ability to contact her in case of > urgent necessity. > > > > Like that, we should evaluate ourselves and > wherever necessary, we > should take special steps to receive the specific > energy we are > unable to absorb. Energies are abundantly available. > God's Grace is > boundless. But we are leading a life of limitations. > We should take > efforts to break ourselves free from limitations or > at least to > manage them. > > > > Now, coming to our friend having Saturn in the > eighth bhava, the > blue sapphire enables him to absorb the Saturn's > energy at a > physical level. This does help. > > > > To overcome any difficulty, the Sastras have > provided us three > means, viz., Mani, Mantra and Oushada. All these or > any combination > of these should be chosen after analysing the > potentials of the > individual concerned. > > > > If there is no lacking on the part of the > individual in absorbing > the Saturn's energy and if he wears the blue > sapphire, what happens? > He finds himself toiling without sense. His work is > not supported by > proper plans or intelligence. Such work does not > bring happiness. > > > > Similarly, a person with a type of imbalance, > wears a navaratna > ring, the position no doubt increases in size; and > the imbalance > also increases. He was earning 1000 dollars and > incurring a debt of > 100 dollars. Now, he would earn 10000 dollars and > incur a debt of > 1000 dollars. Does this solve his problem? > > > > Another example: A person is lacking in business > skilles. Say, he > belongs to Mesha lagnam. Mercury is in Meenam. Mars > (Lagnadhipan) > and Veenus (Dhana sthanadhipan) are in Kanya (6th > house). Moon and > Jupiter are in Katakam. Now if he wears a silver > ring, with a > suitable diamond in the centre sandwiched by an > emerald and coral, > that would certainly help him. Somebody tells him > 'Guru is > Dhanakarakan. You wear a pushparagam and you would > gain lot of > money.' Guru (Jupiter) is the lord of Bhagyasthana > and Vrayasthana > for this person. He is in the suka bhava in the > company of Moon, > perfectly balanced. If he wears Pushparaga stone (10 > carats), no > doubt he would earn more money but would start > spending > disproportionately on physical pleasures. > > > > The gems should be chosen after a thorough > astrological evaluation > of the person concerned. The objective should be to > restore and > maintain balance in absorbing and assimilation of > cosmic energy. > Balance is vital principle of life. > > > > Rudraksha is the best mani. It covers all the > levels of life, > viz., physical, mental, intellectual and spiritual. > But it should be > worn with devotion to the Almighty. Otherwise, it is > like having a > very costly and powerful car, without knowing how to > use it. > Devotion cannot be just like that created in > anybody. This comes > through several samskaras in several births. > Ms.Simone, born in > China and living in Australia writes on Lalita > Trisati with > involvement and expertise. How many persons living > in India can > claim to be equal to her in this? It is all > poorvajanma samskara. > Hence the need for all types of gems. > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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