Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 Namaste Simoneji (sister), Your last line in the previous mail was "At the end of the day, everyone still breathes the same air with feet walking the same Mother Earth planet and merit is not selective of caste or religious path either". I wish it was true in India. India has a funny system of "reservations" like you have for the aboriginals or the Red Indians in the USA - but it is a one time reservation which you people follow. His / her next gen does not get the benefits. In India, I don't know what the Brahmins have down 1000s of years ago, that the Govt reserves everything from free education to lowering of marks for entry to Civil Services, Medical Schools, etc. the level of reservation has reached 79%. I being a brahmin have to score 95%+ marks to get admission to say a medical college but these "other" called scheduled tribe and scheduled caste just have to get 50% and walk into the medical school, every where you will come across them sitting in front of you to the extent that even when they get a job ahead of the most eligible brahmin they are given accellerated promotions, it is a stinking system out here. These (not all though) are the people ruining the Country - when it comes to joining the defence services they say "no no what if I get killed"...because they know very well that a pretty safe and good job is waiting for them. This the 3rd or 4th generation and their enjoyment is not over..they want more and more everyday. This boils every brahmins' blood but our politicians just want to get votes foresaking the Country... It is nice to hear that you said what I have quoted above and for that matter any sane person would do so. This is the reason the words like shudra are hated in India..esp. by the brahmins. regards and take care, Jamini Simone <syzenith wrote: Namaste Respected Jaminiji, Dear brother, I understand fully your highly placed background and gloriously magnificent position but please bear in mind that other members may not have any idea about it. Remembering some of your previous posts, may I mention the following only in discussion, not in debate: 1) I think you mentioned something about people using the name "Ananda" and that it is not enough.. I fully agree with this in one concept, in that some of those who have been initiated as swamis or sanyas need not neccesarily know everything or evolved enough to fully live up to their names. There are also others who are true masters who walk their talk, live and breathe the "Orange" that was poured into them by their gurus during initiation. I don't think most people are comfortable to use the term "ananda" in their names if they are not initiated. Please know that those who use "Ananda" in their names on this List, are all initiated shining ones. 2) Pretty sure you mentioned about something or someone being lower than a chandala if they did this or something else.. Did you read the story about Sri Shankaracharya washing himself in the Ganga Maa one day and a chandala went to wash also. The chandala was freely splashing water around and some drops landed on Shankaracharya who said "O' chandala, be careful of where you splash"...... The chandala gave a reply and during their conversation, Shankaracharya then realised that the chandala was in fact Lord Shiva in disguise and begged forgiveness. After that Shankaracharya went away to meditate for many years. This story is in the ancient books and contains a nice advice why some of us prefer to "greet the Divine in everybody" instead of looking at the bad or negative of someone or some situation. 3) Touching on your good point about "Shudras teaching Brahmins.." (this was deleted from your post as it sounded derogatory at the time) the answer is also in the Holy Books somewhere where it says that "Everyone is born a Shudra but to become a real Brahmin is by merit". I'm sure your Guruji and his ashrama will be able to discourse further about the Shankaracharya story and about shudras and brahmins from the holy books. Please ask them. At the end of the day, everyone still breathes the same air with feet walking the same Mother Earth planet and merit is not selective of caste or religious path either. Best regards Simone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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