Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Dear Simoneji You are just wonderful and your views are not just 2 cents worth but worth crores of rupees as we would say in India. Om Namashivaye Vipin Simone <syzenith wrote: Namaste Aravidmaharaj, Please take the following with a pinch of salt only Don't take it too seriously. I'm only trying to see the difference between aversion and non-aversion towards women during their menses. Just two cents' worth: --------------------- Hindus who accept fully embrace the authority of the Vedas such as Brahmins, the priestly caste, observe the Vedas and the rituals therein very strictly. Those from Tantric Lineages do not necessarily follow all the Vedas. There many tantrikas who worship God as Shiva Shakti. Devi, the Supreme Mother, Maa Kali in all Her Forms or one of the forms of the 10 MahaVidyas, etc. There are also some tantrikas who actually welcome menstrual women to pujas and other gatherings as they consider all women to be Shakti. Simply put, mature (as in spiritually advancing) tantrikas do not see "Duality", they see all as one and one in all. Again to put in simple terms, the ultimate Tantra is the difference between "Aversion" and "Non-Aversion". Say for example a devotee is praying to Maa to remove a horrid situation and Maa is undergoing menstruation for a few days. Would Maa say "Hang on for 7 days and wait, I'm busy having menses and its impure, unholy and against the rules of the Gods". In reply to this, orthodox Hindus may say "Its a sin to do puja during menses and a woman who does this will be damned in hell, etc, etc. etc." (something along those lines..) When coming across someone who says this, the impression is that they adhere only to the Vedas and have not gone outside Vedic practices due to lineage, family background, caste, guru instruction, etc.etc. etc.. There would perhaps also be those in our midst who are advanced tantric practitioners who might have been initiated in the Right Hand path of Tantra. And those who received initiation into the Left Hand. Very few are initiated into the Left Hand unless their Preceptor knows they are truly ready and will put knowledge to Good Use for Humankind, not for self-serving reasons. Perhaps you may have heard of the term "Using the Left Hand to Serve the Right Hand".. Then there is a common belief in some circles that say "At the end of it all, Tantra is a game of life and death" when dealing with terrible severities and adversities where the person is tested and have to decide what action to take. This also forms part of a limb within ultimate Tantra, the type in the Twilight zone that is not described in books and only via guru transmition. You have put it very well that menses is part of the phenomena of mammals. Yes, those who see Atma as God does not allow physical "impurity" to affect. You have said it well "Atma is beyond the genders". However with newbies who are learning about Hinduism who come from non-Hindu backgrounds, many need to study the Vedas before going further to discover the meaning of Atma, and only if they are inclined to do so. Many prefer to stay within the confines of a religion they adopt. Restriction and non-restriction are two sides of the same fabric but it is up to the individual to decide which side they prefer to cloth themselves in, i.e. each to their own cup of tea ))) Jai MahaKali Kaam Kala Kali Jai Shree Kaal Bhairavanath With best regards Simone , aravind maharajan <aravindmaharaj> wrote: > Dear learned elite friends. > > im a staunch beliver of god, and love to worship as > shiva & shakthi. > > i have widely read on various concepts of hinduism. > > but, still i dont understand, why we exempt ladies > from worship for specific period. > > i would request the people in the group who have > authority over this particular subject to kindly let > me know, why women are considered impure for a > specific period of the month. > > in assam, and in chenganoor of kerala, even the devi > has this menstrual cycle. those 3 days the sanctum > sanctorum is closed. on the 4 th day, special poojas > are done and the regular poojas starts, > > as a person who has admired both the normal worship > and the thanthric worship, i still dont understand, > why ladies are treated with partiality. it is a > general phenomena of mammals. > > If we see athma as God, isn't it correct that the > physical impurity will not affect, isn't it that athma > is beyond the genders ? > > can some one explain ? > > with best regards, > > the lord's dasan, > > aravind. To send an email to: / Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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