Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Dear all, In 1974 I knew Kali Baba of Pashupati Nath in Kathamandu. He had the only real round ek-mukhi I ever saw. He also showed me how the phony ones are made by cutting & glueing a pancha-mukhi into a do-mukhi. Kali Bana told me the test for real ek-mukhi was to pour cow's milk on the bead and it will ride up the flow of milk and enter the milk pot. He also said ek-mukhi flowed upstream in any sacred river. I never asked him to show me this, but perhaps I should have. Now Kali Baba has passed away, and his amazing collection of Rudrakshas and Shalagrams-shilas has disappeared in Nepal. QUESTION: Has anyone heard anything about these ek-mukhi qualities? What IS the test for ek-mukhi? Om svasti-astu! Y/s Richard Shaw-Brown http://www.richardshawbrown.com ______________________ Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Round ones are awfully rare. Crescent-shaped ones are thought to be just as effective, though not as rare. Some people on this list have identified genuine beads by boiling them, until the glue melts. The Rudra Centers in India and San Diego offer free authentification services (just for the cost of shipping). If you look on the rudraksha-ratna web site, there are photos of some of the expensive fakes that they have identified. The tests of spinning between coins, or flotation vs sinking haven't proven to be accurate. Don't know about the milk test. Unless one is an expert (there are some experts on this list-- not me), the best way to ensure authenticity is to only buy from very reliable sellers. Thanks, much! K. , Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66> wrote: > Dear all, > > In 1974 I knew Kali Baba of Pashupati Nath in Kathamandu. He had the > only real round ek-mukhi I ever saw. He also showed me how the phony > ones are made by cutting & glueing a pancha-mukhi into a do-mukhi. > > Kali Bana told me the test for real ek-mukhi was to pour cow's milk on > the bead and it will ride up the flow of milk and enter the milk pot. > He also said ek-mukhi flowed upstream in any sacred river. > > I never asked him to show me this, but perhaps I should have. Now Kali > Baba has passed away, and his amazing collection of Rudrakshas and > Shalagrams-shilas has disappeared in Nepal. > > QUESTION: Has anyone heard anything about these ek-mukhi qualities? > What IS the test for ek-mukhi? > > Om svasti-astu! > > Y/s > Richard Shaw-Brown > http://www.richardshawbrown.com > > ____________________ __ > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Dear Respected Richardji Namaskar Mitra and thank you for your posting......yes understand.....of course the best way to authenticate a Eka Mukhi or any of the Holy Rudraksa is to have someone who supplies the Holy Rudraksa authenticate the Rudraksa and write a certificate for client...Rudra Center does this from Home Office in Mumbai as part of our Service of Distribution If sending a Rudraksa is not comfortable for a client and a person needs to self test then is easily accomplished by looking at............. the exterior projections and lines of the picture of the 5 Mukhi Bead on our website........ and compare this picture with a Rudraksa on your table......5 Mukhi Beads are most numerous and are not counterfieted to my knowledge Once a person learns how to identify the thick exterior protrusions........ of a heavy and mature Bead............. and how the lines or Mukhis go from mouth part to end part it is a simple matter to look at the higher Mukhi Beads as they change their shape from round at 3 Mukhi and 5 Mukhi to more oval shape at 10 Mukhi Lord Visnu and 11 Mukhi Lord Hanuman Also is good to know that newly harvested beads have more moisture in them and will have a different specific gravity if placed in a glass of water Authentic Dry Beads from past harvest will float and Authentic New Beads that are newly harvested can sink to their level of specific gravity in the glass of water due to their moisture content We are familiar with the 3 Mukhi Nepal Round haveing two of its lines glued with particles of woody material that may be shaveings from another Rudraksa however when the Bead is placed in Boiled water for about 30 minutes the glue and material float out of the lines or the material can be removed by brushing with a soft plastic tooth brush.....Rudra Center bought one of these Rudraksa from Central Chinmaya Mission West in Mumbai probably in year 2001 Mrs Neeta placed bead in boiled water and the glue and material in the lines was water soluable.......She took the Bead back for refund In comparison we work with Chinmaya Mission in Delhi for some exhibitions and they do not sell the fake Beads Since that experience our Home Office has found the glue applied to the fake beads has become more and more sophisticated to the place where now any suspicioujs Beads actually have to be in Nitrous Oxide solution to dissolve the glue in the lines There are more than a couple websites that sell the fake one mukhi beads from uS $250 to probably about US $1000 and more if I remember correctly Although the numbers of Ek Mukhi are unknown there is no logical reason for the collector families in the Dingla Bazaar area of Arun Valley in Nepal to sell one I know this statement might not make sense however if found this Rudraksa would priceless as it is Lord Shankar Himself There is a reference in the book Gems and Rudraksa by Mr Anil Gupta that states as a note There are many notions about One Faced Rudraksa such as it is hardly available or there grow two or three pieces of Rudraksa. One of them disappears in the sky. The second one is given to the King of Nepal and the third One Faced Rudraksa is mixed up with the prasaad of the Pashupati Temple in Nepal. These are only heresays. It does not happen so. One Faced Rudraksa is found less than the other Rudraksa. It is found but its demand is greater than its availability. Therefore One Faced Rudraksa is not available easily Hope this Helps Thanks and Take Care Mitra DharmaDev Arya In a message dated 2/25/2004 5:37:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, rsbj66 writes: > > > Dear all, > > In 1974 I knew Kali Baba of Pashupati Nath in Kathamandu. He had the > only real round ek-mukhi I ever saw. He also showed me how the phony > ones are made by cutting & glueing a pancha-mukhi into a do-mukhi. > > Kali Bana told me the test for real ek-mukhi was to pour cow's milk on > the bead and it will ride up the flow of milk and enter the milk pot. > He also said ek-mukhi flowed upstream in any sacred river. > > I never asked him to show me this, but perhaps I should have. Now Kali > Baba has passed away, and his amazing collection of Rudrakshas and > Shalagrams-shilas has disappeared in Nepal. > > QUESTION: Has anyone heard anything about these ek-mukhi qualities? > What IS the test for ek-mukhi? > > Om svasti-astu! > > Y/s > Richard Shaw-Brown > http://www.richardshawbrown.com > > ______________________ > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html > > > > To send an email to: > > > > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Namaste Shri Richardji, Pranaams. Warmest welcome to our cyber Rudraksha Family! Thank you for your wonderful darshan here, very honored. In the 80's I had the good fortune of visiting Bangkok and heard of your name and fame while there. Heartiest congratulations about all the great works you brought forth to share and help society. In regards the Ek-mukhi rudraksha, I'm in resonance with Sister Kari. The round version is not only rare, it is virtually extinct in today's times. As far as I know, the round version is also a myth and the only One-faced rudraksha available in modern times is the Half-Moon shaped Ek-mukhi. This is of course not to say that they didn't exist (like dinosaurs once existed) way back in the lokas of old and passed down millennia. It is also deeply regrettable to hear that Shri Kali Baba's Ek-mukhi and collection of other rudrakshas and Shalagram-shilas disappeared after he attained Maha-Samadhi. Hopefully whoever's got them, will know to revere and take care of them. As Sis Kari mentioned, Rudra Centre is one of the world's noted authorities on both genuine and fake rudraksha and they would be able to identify relevant properties and qualities. Perhaps best to contact Mrs. Neeta or Shri DharmaDev. Regarding the test of rudraksha beads whether its Ek-mukhi or upwards, so far Imvho, the process that will truly determine a bead's authentic mukhis is to cut it open translaterally. (Please Friends, I'm not suggesting you cut open your expensive high mukhi beads as this is purely from a botanical viewpoint! This is the stuff they do in laboratories only.) The number of seeds inside determines the number of 'faces' it has outside. Om Namah Shivaya Simone , Richard Shaw- Brown <rsbj66> wrote: > Dear all, > > In 1974 I knew Kali Baba of Pashupati Nath in Kathamandu. He had the > only real round ek-mukhi I ever saw. He also showed me how the phony > ones are made by cutting & glueing a pancha-mukhi into a do-mukhi. > > Kali Bana told me the test for real ek-mukhi was to pour cow's milk on > the bead and it will ride up the flow of milk and enter the milk pot. > He also said ek-mukhi flowed upstream in any sacred river. > > I never asked him to show me this, but perhaps I should have. Now Kali > Baba has passed away, and his amazing collection of Rudrakshas and > Shalagrams-shilas has disappeared in Nepal. > > QUESTION: Has anyone heard anything about these ek-mukhi qualities? > What IS the test for ek-mukhi? > > Om svasti-astu! > > Y/s > Richard Shaw-Brown > http://www.richardshawbrown.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Oh! I didn't connect you with the designer and gemologist. Happy to meet you! I've admired your designs! K. , Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66> wrote: > Dear all, > > In 1974 I knew Kali Baba of Pashupati Nath in Kathamandu. He had the > only real round ek-mukhi I ever saw. He also showed me how the phony > ones are made by cutting & glueing a pancha-mukhi into a do-mukhi. > > Kali Bana told me the test for real ek-mukhi was to pour cow's milk on > the bead and it will ride up the flow of milk and enter the milk pot. > He also said ek-mukhi flowed upstream in any sacred river. > > I never asked him to show me this, but perhaps I should have. Now Kali > Baba has passed away, and his amazing collection of Rudrakshas and > Shalagrams-shilas has disappeared in Nepal. > > QUESTION: Has anyone heard anything about these ek-mukhi qualities? > What IS the test for ek-mukhi? > > Om svasti-astu! > > Y/s > Richard Shaw-Brown > http://www.richardshawbrown.com > > ______________________ > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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