Significance of Right hand Conch/Viswa

January 14, 2004

dear jamini ji,

agree with your words. this reminds me of what one very

spirutual and knowledgable person had told me. that you have change or adjust

according to kala, mana, paristhiti. kala meaning the era in which we are

living i.e kaliyug secondly mana meaning mind- what your mind says and lastly

paristhiti meaning circumstances leading to do or not to do something.

rudrakshas are holy things and work very well towards leading a purified path of

life at metal level., at the same time also creating a distate towards eating

meat or alchohol. but as said one has to adjust depending on situation and

scarcity. i believe that if a thought or desire has struck your mind to eat meat

or consume alchohol, you have already done it, if not in reality atleast

mentally.

regards,

rajeswara rao

Jamini Padhi <jamini_padhi wrote:

Namaste syzenithji,

As you have requested others to chip in with their experiences I would like to

mention that when I had asked my Gurudev of Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan about

food / drink, etc. during any Sadhana he had said "go on...leave the karma to

me..". So what he basically meant is that such questions are stupid to ask. If

someone wants to eat non-veg don't stop him/her because the food item will

remain in the mind and the person will develop more thirts for the food. On the

other hand one can't force vegetarians to eat non-veg, etc. In my personal

experience I have found that eating balanced diet is the best whether it is veg

or non-veg and keep my mind/conciense free so that I can concentrate on what

ever I posses eg. rudraksha mala and mentally chant "Om Namah Shivaya". So

finally, I believe that there should be no remorse... what happens when we eat

at Hotels? I was returning from Kumbh Mela via Shirdi and had not eaten for more

than a day. I saw a hotel and stopped. As the hotel was

veg+non-veg my wife asked for water only and no food. I told her if she could

take water then why not some food as the kitchen there was filled with veg and

non-veg items and perhaps one spoon was being used for serving; then what about

the utensils, they are not washed with ganga jal! We ate what ever looked good

including non-veg. There is no need for me to say that we are all children of

God; he is perfect in all respects unlike us so it is natural for the Great Ones

to forgive us mortals and guide us one concentrating on HIM/HER alone. Mentally

we should be pure that can't be achieved by even taking bath 10 times a day but

by japa - it develops concentration and leads us towards the state of what we

generally call "Tratak". Almost all the medicines that we take are animal

derivatives even plants have life and they cry when they are uprooted or

chopped!! This reminds me of one great person I always depend on when things

seem to be out of control. He is hardly 27-28 yrs old but

has powers like Tratak, Bhraman, etc. He seems to be all knowing even

telephonically so the first time he meets anyone he asks for his/her family

diety and next step is solution and in a minute everything is over. He has

developed himself through penances with Gurus who are (would anyone believe) in

their second or third century of life... if I name them you will know it is

true... eg. Gagangiri Maharaj (Khopoli) is around 250, Kalki Maharaj (Hadapsar,

Pune) is around 200, Lahiri Maharaj in the jungles of West Bengal is 350+...

Lastly, I have recently recovered from relapse of typhoid and obviously I look

weak as I am a regular with the gym.. happened to meet this guy and he was

advising me to eat among all egg, chicken, etc. though he knew I had the

rudraksha mala around my neck...as the last time (around Feb) he had come to see

my infant son who was in hospital and from a distance told me to remove whatever

I was wearing. I was testing a diamond and the same was around my neck...

Om Namah Shivaya

Jamini

syzenith <syzenith wrote:

Namaskar Viswa,

You haven't disturbed me at all so please, there is no need to say

sorry ) It is no trouble at all. I'm very happy to share with

sincere friends here whenever I can. As far as I'm aware, there are

no precautions to follow before worshipping the Conch. It all

depends on your family background, how religious your upbringing

was, whether your family has a Family Guru or whether yourself has a

Guru of a certain lineage that prohibits the eating of non-

vegetarian food before worship.

As I've often mentioned, I believe the Four Vedas were written for

the first Four Castses. Tantra is for all who aspire. With this in

mind and as my very humble studies lean towards Tantra, there is no

need to adhere to the strict religious methods others follow

although I sincerely respect each individual's chosen Path and

methods. They are all Paths to the Summit (God/dess) and we are all

siblings of God but in different ways. Personally, I don't feel

that consuming vegetarian or non-vegie food would interfere or cause

negative effects if one's worship is of sincere devotion and respect

for the deities.

Other friends here may have differing methods and information. If

so, would love to hear other people's experiences so we can learn

from all, then make our own conclusions as to what is right or wrong

for personal practice. In other words, we can make "informed

choices". To all who wish to share, please don't be shy about

posting your messages, thank you.

Om Namah Shivaya

Best wishes in all aspects

Sy

, Viswanath V

<v_vnaths> wrote:

> Namaste syzenithji,

>

> Many thanks for the information you provided that was really

great. sorry to disturb you again I have another question ,Just

like rudraksha is there any precautions we should follow before

worshiping the conch?. Should we refrain from taking non vegetarian

food if we are worshiping the conch. WIll this cause any negative

effects if anything goes wrong while worshipping the conch.

>

> Thanks in advance for your views.

>

> Viswa

January 14, 2004

Namaskar Rajeswaraji,

Your knowledge is profound, thank you for bestowing your thoughts

about this too. Very much agree about Kaliyug, kala, mana and

paristhiti, and about having already consumed something once it

occurs in the mind; mentally if not physically. You've put it very

well. I'm very amazed and most appreciative.

Om Namah Shivaya

Bless you thousand-fold

Sy

, rajeswara rao

<sarvadu> wrote:

> dear jamini ji,

>

> agree with your words. this reminds me of

what one very spirutual and knowledgable person had told me. that

you have change or adjust according to kala, mana, paristhiti. kala

meaning the era in which we are living i.e kaliyug secondly mana

meaning mind- what your mind says and lastly paristhiti meaning

circumstances leading to do or not to do something. rudrakshas are

holy things and work very well towards leading a purified path of

life at metal level., at the same time also creating a distate

towards eating meat or alchohol. but as said one has to adjust

depending on situation and scarcity. i believe that if a thought or

desire has struck your mind to eat meat or consume alchohol, you

have already done it, if not in reality at least mentally.

>

> regards,

> rajeswara rao

>

> Jamini Padhi <jamini_padhi> wrote:

> Namaste syzenithji,

> As you have requested others to chip in with their experiences I

would like to mention that when I had asked my Gurudev of Mantra

Tantra Yantra Vigyan about food / drink, etc. during any Sadhana he

had said "go on...leave the karma to me..". So what he basically

meant is that such questions are stupid to ask. If someone wants to

eat non-veg don't stop him/her because the food item will remain in

the mind and the person will develop more thirts for the food. On

the other hand one can't force vegetarians to eat non-veg, etc. In

my personal experience I have found that eating balanced diet is the

best whether it is veg or non-veg and keep my mind/conciense free so

that I can concentrate on what ever I posses eg. rudraksha mala and

mentally chant "Om Namah Shivaya". So finally, I believe that there

should be no remorse... what happens when we eat at Hotels? I was

returning from Kumbh Mela via Shirdi and had not eaten for more than

a day. I saw a hotel and stopped. As the hotel was

> veg+non-veg my wife asked for water only and no food. I told her

if she could take water then why not some food as the kitchen there

was filled with veg and non-veg items and perhaps one spoon was

being used for serving; then what about the utensils, they are not

washed with ganga jal! We ate what ever looked good including non-

veg. There is no need for me to say that we are all children of God;

he is perfect in all respects unlike us so it is natural for the

Great Ones to forgive us mortals and guide us one concentrating on

HIM/HER alone. Mentally we should be pure that can't be achieved by

even taking bath 10 times a day but by japa - it develops

concentration and leads us towards the state of what we generally

call "Tratak". Almost all the medicines that we take are animal

derivatives even plants have life and they cry when they are

uprooted or chopped!! This reminds me of one great person I always

depend on when things seem to be out of control. He is hardly 27-28

yrs old but

> has powers like Tratak, Bhraman, etc. He seems to be all knowing

even telephonically so the first time he meets anyone he asks for

his/her family diety and next step is solution and in a minute

everything is over. He has developed himself through penances with

Gurus who are (would anyone believe) in their second or third

century of life... if I name them you will know it is true... eg.

Gagangiri Maharaj (Khopoli) is around 250, Kalki Maharaj (Hadapsar,

Pune) is around 200, Lahiri Maharaj in the jungles of West Bengal is

350+... Lastly, I have recently recovered from relapse of typhoid

and obviously I look weak as I am a regular with the gym.. happened

to meet this guy and he was advising me to eat among all egg,

chicken, etc. though he knew I had the rudraksha mala around my

neck...as the last time (around Feb) he had come to see my infant

son who was in hospital and from a distance told me to remove

whatever I was wearing. I was testing a diamond and the same was

around my neck...

> Om Namah Shivaya

> Jamini

January 14, 2004

Very good good words, Jamini! Thank you for sharing...

Cindy

Jamini Padhi wrote:

>Namaste syzenithji,

>As you have requested others to chip in with their experiences I would like to