Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Namaste Mahamuniji & friends, Thank you for your nice message. May I share two cents' worth: It was through SRDDAji that I came to the Rudra Centre Family. Previously I had been to Nepal and India but never felt inclined to get involved with the rudraksha industry. This was mainly because I had not seen an ethical and quality supplier until SRDDAji guided me to Rudra Centre. It was like Siva Himself calling :-) When I saw the quality beads, something popped -- the lights were always on, but there was someone "home" at last. For any friends who doubt the efficacy of rudraksha: ------------------- It is like a "living tradition", guru diksha, personal tramittion from guru (rudraksha) to the chela (whether they're sadhak, servant or student of rudraksha) and Rnanubandhana (past karmic ties, bonds, debts, etc.). Without taking "Guru Rudraksha" on, how woud we know if this 'guru rudraksha' is for real. As with transmittion from flesh & blood gurus, it is direct transmission and nothing or much is "written down" or recorded. What most of us see in books about classical rituals for example, are only about half or a bit more of the authentic info, not the full works. The full works can only result from the guidance of a "dispeller of darkness" (whether a genuine real life preceptor or our own Inner Guru for those who dare to will and try), coupled with personal experience along the way. Experience and mistakes are also our gurus, if we learn from them and then apply wisely. It is said (in Scriptures) that the instinct to wear rudraksha results from blessings of past lives. How they work on, or for each of us, largely depends on Rnanubandhana, karmas of the past if you like and rtam (cosmic time or heavenly movements are two ways to describe this) fast, There is a time, a season and ryhme to everything on this earth, in all Samskara. For "Guru Rudraksha" and "Santana Dharma" firstly, then guru malas, guru yantras, etc., they conquered the world without sending one soldier across any border. They would not have survived in mankind for millennia if they have no authenticity, efficacy, "user friendly" and nurturing substance through the ages. Of course every individual believes differently and I don't dispute anyone's truths. Everyone is welcome to believe what they conceive to be the Truth. Not seeking to convert anyone to Guru Rudraksha :-) If destined, Guru Rudraksha will come find us and decide whether to give us diksha or live with us. Om Namah Shivaya Sy , "mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > I just want to state for the record that rudraksha-ratna.com has some nice beads. I visited Dharma Dev when he was just starting out and bought a bunch of collector beads at very reasonable prices. I think they are a reputable operation. > > Jai Shankar! > - > AumShiningLotus@a... > > Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:52 PM > Re: RBSC : Do Malas and Yantras work? > > > Dear Miss > > another possibility might be that many dont wish to share their experiences > in public or to someone they just met on the internet.....that is why many > volunteered testimonials are on our website at > www.rudraksha-ratna.com.......inviteing you to read what has been placed as testimonials on the website > > an additional possibility is that it really isnt necessary to convince > someone of the Power of the Rudraksa.........some people are attracted to the > Rudraksa and some are not.....the Rudraksa find their own homes with people who are > ready for them to be in their lives.....since our work of Service does not > include patting ourselves on the back I have no idea where this comment is > comeing from.......most likely something from your past that has nothing to do with > the present moment > > Wishing you and Family the Best > > Thanks and Take Care > > DharmaDev > > In a message dated 11/9/2003 7:34:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, > maryjo91210 writes: > > > > Subj:RBSC : Do Malas and Yantras work? > > Date:11/9/2003 7:34:07 PM Pacific Standard Time > > <A HREF="maryjo91210">maryjo91210</A> > > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabea dsocietiesclub</A> > > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabea dsocietiesclub</A> > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > Hi Mahamuni, Barbara J. Spencer, Siva Rudra DharmaDeva Arya, syzenith > > > > > Thank you all for responding to my question on Rudraksha malas. I am > > beginning to think that if people had had any startling or even > > satisfying experiences other than the annoying buzz in the head > > (which I don't want), they would have posted it by now. > > > > Yes, the Rudra-Centre has many satisfied customers when it comes to > > service and prompt delivery. Every one at the Rudra-centre can pat > > yourselves on the back for that. > > > > Otherwise, I am thinking of passing on these too good to be true > > malas. > > > > How about the Yantras? I am sure they work? Any experience you all > > would like to share. What the secrets of making them work? > > > > Maryjo > > > > > > > , "Barbara J. > > > Spencer" <barbjs@s...> wrote: > > > > Hi Maryjo, > > > > > > > > Why don't you just start with the inexpensive rudraksha with > > fewer > > > mukhis > > > > and see what happens. You can always add the expensive beads > > later > > > if you > > > > like. > > > > > > > > - > > > > "maryjo91210" <maryjo91210> > > > > <> > > > > Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:23 PM > > > > RBSC : Efficacy of Melas, yantras etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this newsgroup and to the rudrakshas culture. Do > > > these > > > > > charms really work? If it was possible to attract a lot of > > wealth > > > > > with a parad lakshmi or a 16 faced rudrakshas don't you think > > > every > > > > > body would be wearing it. Yet there are so many poor people in > > > India. > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive my ranting. Will some of you who have bought > > > > > Rudraksas from the rudra centre please share your experiences. > > I > > > > > want to be very sure that I am not getting myself into trouble > > at > > > > > worst and have nothing happen at best for the enormous amount > > of > > > > > money I will have to fork out for these rudrakshas. 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Guest guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 Beautiful Sy, just beautiful Jorge Lourenço - "syzenith" <syzenith <> Monday, November 10, 2003 10:43 PM RBSC : Guru Rudraksha/ does it work? > Namaste Mahamuniji & friends, > > Thank you for your nice message. May I share two cents' worth: > > It was through SRDDAji that I came to the Rudra Centre Family. > Previously I had been to Nepal and India but never felt inclined to > get involved with the rudraksha industry. This was mainly because I > had not seen an ethical and quality supplier until SRDDAji guided me > to Rudra Centre. It was like Siva Himself calling :-) When I saw > the quality beads, something popped -- the lights were always on, > but there was someone "home" at last. > > For any friends who doubt the efficacy of rudraksha: > ------------------- > It is like a "living tradition", guru diksha, personal tramittion > from guru (rudraksha) to the chela (whether they're sadhak, servant > or student of rudraksha) and Rnanubandhana (past karmic ties, bonds, > debts, etc.). Without taking "Guru Rudraksha" on, how woud we know > if this 'guru rudraksha' is for real. > > As with transmittion from flesh & blood gurus, it is direct > transmission and nothing or much is "written down" or recorded. > What most of us see in books about classical rituals for example, > are only about half or a bit more of the authentic info, not the > full works. > > The full works can only result from the guidance of a "dispeller of > darkness" (whether a genuine real life preceptor or our own Inner > Guru for those who dare to will and try), coupled with personal > experience along the way. Experience and mistakes are also our > gurus, if we learn from them and then apply wisely. > > It is said (in Scriptures) that the instinct to wear rudraksha > results from blessings of past lives. How they work on, or for each > of us, largely depends on Rnanubandhana, karmas of the past if you > like and rtam (cosmic time or heavenly movements are two ways to > describe this) fast, There is a time, a season and ryhme to > everything on this earth, in all Samskara. > > For "Guru Rudraksha" and "Santana Dharma" firstly, then guru malas, > guru yantras, etc., they conquered the world without sending one > soldier across any border. They would not have survived in mankind > for millennia if they have no authenticity, efficacy, "user > friendly" and nurturing substance through the ages. > > Of course every individual believes differently and I don't dispute > anyone's truths. Everyone is welcome to believe what they conceive > to be the Truth. > > Not seeking to convert anyone to Guru Rudraksha :-) If destined, > Guru Rudraksha will come find us and decide whether to give us > diksha or live with us. > > Om Namah Shivaya > Sy > > , "mahamuni" > <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > > > I just want to state for the record that rudraksha-ratna.com has > some nice beads. I visited Dharma Dev when he was just starting out > and bought a bunch of collector beads at very reasonable prices. I > think they are a reputable operation. > > > > Jai Shankar! > > - > > AumShiningLotus@a... > > > > Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:52 PM > > Re: RBSC : Do Malas and Yantras work? > > > > > > Dear Miss > > > > another possibility might be that many dont wish to share their > experiences > > in public or to someone they just met on the internet.....that > is why many > > volunteered testimonials are on our website at > > www.rudraksha-ratna.com.......inviteing you to read what has > been placed as testimonials on the website > > > > an additional possibility is that it really isnt necessary to > convince > > someone of the Power of the Rudraksa.........some people are > attracted to the > > Rudraksa and some are not.....the Rudraksa find their own homes > with people who are > > ready for them to be in their lives.....since our work of > Service does not > > include patting ourselves on the back I have no idea where this > comment is > > comeing from.......most likely something from your past that has > nothing to do with > > the present moment > > > > Wishing you and Family the Best > > > > Thanks and Take Care > > > > DharmaDev > > > > In a message dated 11/9/2003 7:34:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > maryjo91210 writes: > > > > > > > Subj:RBSC : Do Malas and Yantras work? > > > Date:11/9/2003 7:34:07 PM Pacific Standard Time > > > <A HREF="maryjo91210">maryjo91210</A> > > > Reply-to:<A > HREF="">rudrakshabea > dsocietiesclub</A> > > > To:<A > HREF="">rudrakshabea > dsocietiesclub</A> > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mahamuni, Barbara J. Spencer, Siva Rudra DharmaDeva Arya, > syzenith > > > > > > > Thank you all for responding to my question on Rudraksha > malas. I am > > > beginning to think that if people had had any startling or > even > > > satisfying experiences other than the annoying buzz in the > head > > > (which I don't want), they would have posted it by now. > > > > > > Yes, the Rudra-Centre has many satisfied customers when it > comes to > > > service and prompt delivery. Every one at the Rudra-centre can > pat > > > yourselves on the back for that. > > > > > > Otherwise, I am thinking of passing on these too good to be > true > > > malas. > > > > > > How about the Yantras? I am sure they work? Any experience you > all > > > would like to share. What the secrets of making them work? > > > > > > Maryjo > > > > > > > > > > , "Barbara > J. > > > > Spencer" <barbjs@s...> wrote: > > > > > Hi Maryjo, > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you just start with the inexpensive rudraksha > with > > > fewer > > > > mukhis > > > > > and see what happens. You can always add the expensive > beads > > > later > > > > if you > > > > > like. > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > "maryjo91210" <maryjo91210> > > > > > <> > > > > > Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:23 PM > > > > > RBSC : Efficacy of Melas, yantras etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this newsgroup and to the rudrakshas > culture. Do > > > > these > > > > > > charms really work? If it was possible to attract a lot > of > > > wealth > > > > > > with a parad lakshmi or a 16 faced rudrakshas don't you > think > > > > every > > > > > > body would be wearing it. Yet there are so many poor > people in > > > > India. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive my ranting. Will some of you who have > bought > > > > > > Rudraksas from the rudra centre please share your > experiences. > > > I > > > > > > want to be very sure that I am not getting myself into > trouble > > > at > > > > > > worst and have nothing happen at best for the enormous > amount > > > of > > > > > > money I will have to fork out for these rudrakshas. Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 pLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE NOW --- António_Lourenço <mop71543 wrote: > Beautiful Sy, just beautiful > > Jorge Lourenço > - > "syzenith" <syzenith > <> > Monday, November 10, 2003 10:43 PM > RBSC : Guru Rudraksha/ does it work? > > > > Namaste Mahamuniji & friends, > > > > Thank you for your nice message. May I share two > cents' worth: > > > > It was through SRDDAji that I came to the Rudra > Centre Family. > > Previously I had been to Nepal and India but never > felt inclined to > > get involved with the rudraksha industry. This > was mainly because I > > had not seen an ethical and quality supplier until > SRDDAji guided me > > to Rudra Centre. It was like Siva Himself calling > :-) When I saw > > the quality beads, something popped -- the lights > were always on, > > but there was someone "home" at last. > > > > For any friends who doubt the efficacy of > rudraksha: > > > ------------------- > > It is like a "living tradition", guru diksha, > personal tramittion > > from guru (rudraksha) to the chela (whether > they're sadhak, servant > > or student of rudraksha) and Rnanubandhana (past > karmic ties, bonds, > > debts, etc.). Without taking "Guru Rudraksha" on, > how woud we know > > if this 'guru rudraksha' is for real. > > > > As with transmittion from flesh & blood gurus, it > is direct > > transmission and nothing or much is "written down" > or recorded. > > What most of us see in books about classical > rituals for example, > > are only about half or a bit more of the authentic > info, not the > > full works. > > > > The full works can only result from the guidance > of a "dispeller of > > darkness" (whether a genuine real life preceptor > or our own Inner > > Guru for those who dare to will and try), coupled > with personal > > experience along the way. Experience and mistakes > are also our > > gurus, if we learn from them and then apply > wisely. > > > > It is said (in Scriptures) that the instinct to > wear rudraksha > > results from blessings of past lives. How they > work on, or for each > > of us, largely depends on Rnanubandhana, karmas of > the past if you > > like and rtam (cosmic time or heavenly movements > are two ways to > > describe this) fast, There is a time, a season > and ryhme to > > everything on this earth, in all Samskara. > > > > For "Guru Rudraksha" and "Santana Dharma" firstly, > then guru malas, > > guru yantras, etc., they conquered the world > without sending one > > soldier across any border. They would not have > survived in mankind > > for millennia if they have no authenticity, > efficacy, "user > > friendly" and nurturing substance through the > ages. > > > > Of course every individual believes differently > and I don't dispute > > anyone's truths. Everyone is welcome to believe > what they conceive > > to be the Truth. > > > > Not seeking to convert anyone to Guru Rudraksha > :-) If destined, > > Guru Rudraksha will come find us and decide > whether to give us > > diksha or live with us. > > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > Sy > > > > , > "mahamuni" > > <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > > > > > I just want to state for the record that > rudraksha-ratna.com has > > some nice beads. I visited Dharma Dev when he was > just starting out > > and bought a bunch of collector beads at very > reasonable prices. I > > think they are a reputable operation. > > > > > > Jai Shankar! > > > - > > > AumShiningLotus@a... > > > > > > Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:52 PM > > > Re: RBSC : Do Malas and Yantras work? > > > > > > > > > Dear Miss > > > > > > another possibility might be that many dont > wish to share their > > experiences > > > in public or to someone they just met on the > internet.....that > > is why many > > > volunteered testimonials are on our website at > > > > > dsocietiesclub</A> > > > > To:<A > > > HREF="">rudrakshabea > > dsocietiesclub</A> > > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mahamuni, Barbara J. Spencer, Siva Rudra > DharmaDeva Arya, > > syzenith > > > > > > > > > Thank you all for responding to my question > on Rudraksha > > malas. I am > > > > beginning to think that if people had had > any startling or > > even > > > > satisfying experiences other than the > annoying buzz in the > > head > > > > (which I don't want), they would have posted > it by now. > > > > > > > > Yes, the Rudra-Centre has many satisfied > customers when it > === message truncated === Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree''>http://antispam./whatsnewfree'>http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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