spirits and rudraksha

[Guest guest]

Hello All,

I have a mysterious situation and would like to know if anyone else has had or

is having

a similar experience or maybe I am going mad.

I ordered a rudraksha necklace with one 4F one 6F and one 4F bead linked

together. I

am not sure as to the authenticity of the beads. I paid a lot more than I shoudl

have..about

60 bucks and I found this group and the rudraksha site too late. IN any case I

have worn

them for about 26 days now. I take them off only when I sleep and shower. I came

to the

realization about 4 days ago that a spirit of some sort has been with me. I got

these beads

because the people I bought it from said that it would help me in my education

and love

life and the impossibility of my situation would go away and my wishes would be

fulfilled. What i do is hold a pen very lightly as if I am about the write

somehting and

instead I can feel this spirit moving my hand and it starts writing! I am sure

you all will

think I am nuts but I swear this really has been happening. It keeps writing

that I have

been blessed by "Shiv Jee" and that only a rare few have this happen to them. It

says thta

it is here to protect me and to see that the 2 wishes that I have been praying

for come true.

It tells me that I am free to seek guidance from it and that whenever I need

help I shoudl

recite "om namah shivaye" and it will answer all my questions by moving my hand

to

write.

has anything like this every happened to anyone??? At first I was extremely

scared but it

seems to be a very peaceful spirit and it is giving me a lot of hope by telling

me that

theses 2 wishes will come true but only because Shiv Jee has blessed me. It told

me that

what I have been praying for was not planned to happen but because I was lucky

enough

to get the beads my destiny has been "change" by "Shiv Jee's will." can anyone

provicde

some insight as to if this is real??? has anyone had this happen to them or am I

just going

mad?????

Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply! the blue dot huh? i havent been seeing anything...its just

that if i

have questions i get a pen and write it. do you actually see it or do you

envision it when

your eyes are closed?

 

, "Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt@c...>

wrote:

> Hi Aasha_13, I think we talked before as your RR combo sounds similar to me.

Shiv-Ji is of course Shiva, also saying he's a friend. You're lucky to be able

to ghost

write with his blessings. Many people can see the devas, but they cannot hear

them or

communicate. Personally, I see them, but I have really bad tinnitus and can't

hear much

of anything. I'm always wishing that I could hear them talk if such is what

they do.

What now would they tell me. Probably to move to the hills because Bush is the

Antichrist, I presume. Sorry, can't help but get that anti-bush jibe in there

somewhere.

>From watching people I see many people moving into their resting place as

individuals.

Many are getting where they need to be to be comfortable. I feel that this is

due to many

influences, and is in preparation for quickly coming global holocaust. We are

getting

ready to have some big big unstressing on Earth as the sollipcism and narcissim

of the

last two thousand years of the dark ages reaches it's head in WW3. If I'm wrong

then

I'll be glad to admit it in year 2012 when the Mayan calendar ends. You'll have

to wait

awhile for my apoligies however. If I'm not then we all need Shiva's help! If

you start

seeing the blue dot then you'll know it's Shiva for sure. This happens to many

people.

RR beads are Shiva in form. They liberate and grant auspiciousness. That's what

they're

here for. Enjoy Shiva's blessings. And next time get yer beads from Rudra

Center. Half

price is double your blessings =) Enjoyed your question. Please write more

as it

occurs to you. Thanks - Rudra Joe/Kirk

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

DeaR Kanti Jee

Thank you so much for letting me know this! You are right I am a bit

umcomfortable but

I am not as afraid anymore. maybe because it has been happening for some days

now. IT

keeps writing that I have nothing to fear and that it will not bring me any harm

and that it

will only protect me. I suppose that the rudra center would be a good place to

buy these

beads? And should i wear them regularly in combination with the 3 beads that I

have ?

(4F-6F-4F).

Thanks again for all your advice I am very new to all of this and a bit afraid i

suppose but

I am trying not to let it get to me.

Thanks!

 

, "kantikakini

<thunderheals@a...>" <thunderheals@a...> wrote:

> Namaste Aashaji:

>

> If I may, I have had quite a bit of experience in this realm.

>

> My sense is that you were always blessed with the gift of Spirit

> Communication and that the mala you received brought those abilities

> out. The combinationin that mala being akin to Goddess Saraswati.

>

> What I would HIGHLY suggest since this is all new to you and you must

> feel a little uncomfortable with the process or you wouldn't be

> bringing it up to us is to invest in a 9 Mukhi Goddess Durga or an

> 11 Lord Hanuman Rudraksha.

>

> The Light of one or both of these beads would "test" the Spirit as it

> were..insuring that the Being is indeed a manfestation of the Lord.

> If it is a lower entity the energy from these Highly powerful and

> protective rudraksha will not allow the energy close to you.

>

> If it is a High Energy, an emanation of the Lord, you are indeed

> quite blessed and 9 and/or 11 mukhi will only enhance and increase

> the bond.

>

> Some people do not "see" the higher realms or Beings that live

> therein.

> Some people "feel" or sense them.. Some people also will smell very

> beautiful aromas.

>

> I would suggest at least one of these other mukhi as an "insurance"

> and assurance that only the highest and purest Light be allowed

> around you..It will make you feel more comfortable.

>

> If it is a negative energy then, it has probably been with you all

> along and the rudraksha shall help you dispell it.

>

> If it is a positve Force of Light, then you have a sign that you are

> greatly loved by the Lord.

>

> Goddess 9 Durga and Lord Hanuman 11 will guide you and guard you

> through this process.

> No need to fear, but there are tools available to you that will

> assist you and bring you clarity, wisdom and discernment.

>

> Many Blessings,

> Kanti

>

>

>

> , "Kirk"

> <kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote:

> > see it, like you or me

> > -

> > aasha_13 <aasha_13>

> >

> > Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:40 PM

> > Re: spirits and rudraksha

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the reply! the blue dot huh? i havent been seeing

> anything...its just that if i

> > have questions i get a pen and write it. do you actually see it

> or do you envision it when

> > your eyes are closed?

> >

> > , "Kirk"

> <kirk_bernhardt@c...>

> > wrote:

> > > Hi Aasha_13, I think we talked before as your RR combo sounds

> similar to me.

> > Shiv-Ji is of course Shiva, also saying he's a friend. You're

> lucky to be able to ghost

> > write with his blessings. Many people can see the devas, but

> they cannot hear them or

> > communicate. Personally, I see them, but I have really bad

> tinnitus and can't hear much

> > of anything. I'm always wishing that I could hear them talk if

> such is what they do.

> > What now would they tell me. Probably to move to the hills

> because Bush is the

> > Antichrist, I presume. Sorry, can't help but get that anti-bush

> jibe in there somewhere.

> > From watching people I see many people moving into their resting

> place as individuals.

> > Many are getting where they need to be to be comfortable. I feel

> that this is due to many

> > influences, and is in preparation for quickly coming global

> holocaust. We are getting

> > ready to have some big big unstressing on Earth as the sollipcism

> and narcissim of the

> > last two thousand years of the dark ages reaches it's head in

> WW3. If I'm wrong then

> > I'll be glad to admit it in year 2012 when the Mayan calendar

> ends. You'll have to wait

> > awhile for my apoligies however. If I'm not then we all need

> Shiva's help! If you start

> > seeing the blue dot then you'll know it's Shiva for sure. This

> happens to many people.

> > RR beads are Shiva in form. They liberate and grant

> auspiciousness. That's what they're

> > here for. Enjoy Shiva's blessings. And next time get yer beads

> from Rudra Center. Half

> > price is double your blessings =) Enjoyed your question.

> Please write more as it

> > occurs to you. Thanks - Rudra Joe/Kirk

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I know I am replying just to kirk but I hope everyonei s reading the messages

and I really

appreciate your input. I am very very new at this. Krik you mentioned chanting a

mantra?

I am not familiar with it can you give me more information? I think I am going

to hold off

getting the 9 or 11 mukhi bead until after January 8th and here is why. This

"shiv jee" as

it is callign itself has written pages and pages!! Over 5-10 a day. It tells me

that I have

nothing to fear and that it is here to protect me and to ensure that my wishes

get fulfilled.

It tells me that I cna talk to it whenever I want and all I have to do is chant

"om namah

shivaye" . sometimes while writing my hand slows down and it wil tell me to

chant the

mantra as it gives him power. As some of you already know I got the beads becaue

I am

in a graduate program in biomedical research and I have struggled quite a bit

and I have

had some problems in my love relationship. So he keeps reiterating to me that I

should

not be afraid and that if i want I can go ahead and buy the rudraksha and it

will just

"strengthen our bond" it tells me that I am very very lucky to have been blessed

by Shiva

and that it is here for the sole purpose of carrying out Shiva's work. It tells

me that I wil

finish my finish phD by June of 2006 and that by january of 2007 I will marry

this man

that I love when at the moment the thought of that is almost impossible!! It

says that

Shiva has blessed me and therefore the impossible will become possible. What

absolutely

is driving me nuts is that it has told me that something will happen on January

8th ...so I

am waiting to see. What amazed me though is that it told me that it was going to

help me

with my research and that I would be resposible for coming up the the proposal

and

experimental design that will eventualy lead to a cure for Diabetes and as a

result I would

get national recognition. ( The lab that I am doign research in is focused on

diabetes and

cancer research). What I am stunned about is that it told me that it wanted me

to go the

library and it would pick out some books and chapters int hose books that it

wants me to

read so that when it "helps" me I will have some understadning of the

mechanisms...and

I just spent about an hour and half in tghe library as it led my right hand down

an aisle of

books and stopping it on ones that it wante dto check out. But by the end of it

there

turned out to be over 15 books! So i told it to please cut it donw..so it ssaid

if I would go

to a table it would go through book by book with me and tell me the relevant

pages and

that the books with just a fwe pertinent chapters i should go ahead and

photocopy and

chceck out the rest! I cnat believe i listened to it! For the most part the

material was very

relevant to what I am studying....so I am curious to findo ut what comes of it.

It also tells me that it goes where the beads go and that if i were to get rid

of the beads

that I would also be rid of Lord Shiva;'s blessings.

I dont know what to make of it...for the most part it seems really genuine but

it has been

giving me a lot of hopeby doing all of this and particularly by telling me that

I will marry

this guy in Janurary of 2007. It wont give a specific date. I once asked him if

it could tell

me someone's phone number and it attempted to and it told me that I have

"realise" that

"he" is not human and can only "sense" things..and telephone numbers are hard to

"sense".

sometimes i wish i never got the beads in the first place because after all of

this if it turns

out to be a fluke I wil be very depressed. It has asked me to chant a mala of

"om namah

shivaye" everyday. This mornign as I was getting ready to leave for college I

felt a warm

sensation on my right hand and so I took a paper and pen and it wrote that it

wanted to

remind me to chant a round of "om namah shivaye" on the mala before I left.

What do all of you think???? At times it feels like I have nothing to fear as it

only seems

to be doing and telling me things that will lead to my happiness and success.

I will wati another week or so and if needed i will get theone bead of either 9

or11 but if

it turns out to be a fluke then I might just end of donating the beads, in hope

that this

goes away.Any advice from anyone? I greatly appreciate everyone's feedback and

thank

you for replying!

best wishes

 

, "Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt@c...>

wrote:

> It's almost certain that when you come to rudraksha you have earned the right

to them

in former lives as some sort of spiritual practitioner. They are a great

blessing in this

lifetime, right now, for helping us individuals overcome enviromental

disturbances. I

daresay that most spirits trail in the wake of Shiva since he is the primordial

spark of self

consciousness and primary wisdom even for spirits. Maybe some have been

activated,

perhaps entrained by the rudraksha to speak for Shiva. I would combine your

wearing

with chanting of some mantra like a Mahamritunjaya and see what happens. This

should

cut off any duplicitous contact. However, please try to remember that all these

impulses

of consciousness exist within ourselves, and as such can be controlled by

ourself

through these tools of self awareness and rudraksha,and chanting, and other

sadhanas.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste !

 

I worked from 1978 until this year with an oganization called

"Ministry of Angels" and had been the director for almost 20 years.

 

The purpose of the group was to allow people to experience that the

presence of the angels, the Shining ones, the Devata are very much

real and that they are loving presences here to help us.

 

One of the ways in which communication was learned and was taught

was via automatic writing and it was not unusual for people to come

to me seeking help who found themselves spontaneously channeling.

 

To receive from a Shining One ..the messages are always uplifting and

meant to support a person spiritually. One has a feeling of great

well being, serenity and Peace. The well known book "A Course in

Miracles" was received by "sponanteous auromatic writing"

 

Unless asked specifically, I have never heard of a person receiving

specific info about life in relative field from one of these higher

beings..however this is the type of info that is received in the

astral realm which is where most psychic info is received and

the "guides" of this realm are disincarnate spirits.

 

Not having direct face to face contact with you Aashaji and only

going by your discription of what you are receiving, it is very

difficult for me to assertain the nature of the entity in question.

 

I think the advice of using the mala for chanting the maha mantra is

excellent and will provide you grounding and protection as well as

perhaps a mala of the Goddess Durga mantra "Om Dum Durgayei Namaha"

 

And as Kariji mentioned in her post as well s your last comment, I

would wait on further communication and stick to the mantra reps for

now.

 

Please keep in touch.

Many Blessings,

Kanti

 

, "aasha_13

<aasha_13>" <aasha_13> wrote:

> I don't express any personal desires in fact this entity first

conveyed to me that Lord

> Shiva has blessed me and what I have been praying for will come

true in a matter of time.

> I don't know I am realy confused. It seems to sense my thoughts an

either i ask a

> question in my mind or out loud and it writes a response through

me... anyways I think

> maybe it would be best if I did not communicate with it for a while

and see what

> happens.all inputs and opinions are greatly appreciated!