The Hymn on the Greatness The wages of sin?

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Shiva Mahimnah Stotram, 1

 

(The Hymn on the Greatness of Shiva)

 

1. If the praise of thee by one who is ignorant of the extent of Thy

greatness be unbecoming, then the praises of even Brahma & others are

inadequate for Thee. And if all remain unblamable by praising Thee

according to their intellectual powers, then even this attempt on my

part to compose a hymn is free from any blemish.

 

 

 

, "Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt@c...>

wrote:

> Saul, Paul if you will, I seem to remember as an asshole. In fact most of the

Apostles were jerks, and control freaks. If you remember Judas, if he hadn't

wimped out Jesus wouldn't have bought the fairy farm. The Apostles were the

reason the Catholic Church took the screwed up form it's in now. In 2000 years

it never changed. In fact after Jesus split, the spirit immediately left the

Church, and has never visited since. Sure there's been some saints like

Theresa, sometimes some reactionaries like St. Francis (who reacted against the

Church, ironic that they sainted him, but he had a big following and some rich

followers). In fact, the Church is most likely exactly the reason Christ never

gained any foothold on this plane. Yes the original guys were brave. But they

also asked for it. They didn't try to relate or integrate. Jesus' followers

were fanatics and just as sickening as your average born-again today.

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> But nonetheless, thanks for the valid study of those ignorant times. Too bad

Maharishi wasn't better with history, or he would see he's doing the same exact

thing that the original church did. In fact I remember Jesus was a stuck up

prig too, and very selfish. Walked around head high and liked his rich

synchophants.

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> thunderheals@a...

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> Monday, December 09, 2002 6:26 PM

> Re: The wages of sin?

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> Actually you have to take the historic perspective.

> Christianity was an outrageously liberating concept especially to the Jews

> who were

> weighed down by all of these awful rules that were so complicated the

average

> Joe didn't know what was going on and there was all of this corruption with

> Pharasees and Sadducees and all of those guys..Paul being one of them until

> he saw Jesus in a vision and the vision blinded him literally and Jesus in

> the vision led him to a Christian guy who healed him...so within the context

> of the time frame and culture all this stuff was written ..he was totally

> radical and the ideas completely new and actually liberating.. and we also

> don't know how true the current epistles are and if they were edited by the

> early Catholic church..really is a prime example of Eastern vs. Western

> consciousness.

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> Really think as a Jew Paul was probably pretty anal retentive as he was

> responsible for actually having some early Christians killed..so he was so

> caught up in all these Judaic laws ..although he shed alot of it, he

probably

> still had some neurosis to deal with still.

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> In a message dated 12/9/2002 6:12:37 PM Central Standard Time,

> kirk_bernhardt@c... writes:

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> > Well either way he sounded like a drag (queen?)

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