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Know exactly what you mean.

Was reading the Keys of Solomon and the Grimoires when I was in high

school..indeed..why bother when you can meditate ??

 

I guess its a matter of understanding people or trying to understand people

where they were at.

 

One of the most profound things I heard Muktananda say once was "Honor

others' ignorance"..what he was saying was in reference to a woman' s family

who were giving her trouble for meditating. He said we need to realize that

many people we come in contact with are living the Truth in the best way they

can interpret and understand it and "don't know better"..

 

Find that teaching comes back to me every now and again when I get annoyed

with occultists doing such "high school" stuff. Guess the 15 mukhi is serving

me well for it teaches detachment.. to move past my emotions and

reactions...also found out if I wear it to the gym I can get thru these realy

primo difficult workouts..cause it pushes me away from "tyranny of the body"

:-)

 

In a message dated 12/9/2002 10:33:44 PM Central Standard Time,

kirk_bernhardt writes:

 

 

> A woman code name Monocle who was Regardie's secretary did the Watchtower

> ritual and had myself and my sister and two others over to watch it. She

> had Case's pentacle, Regardies Staff, Waite's Chalice, Crowley's Clothes,

> and original Equinox. It was a watery, rather tepid ritual where I felt

> the life and vigor weren't much present. It felt very elemental, but not

> spiritual, hard to describe. Wearing Crowley's stuff. I don't remember.

> I was honored and proud, but wasn't into that stuff then. I had already

> studied Crowley and wrapped up my interest by that age. Plus had bad acid

> trips and was merely an adolescent, and I just wanted to be normal. I even

> now follow the occult through these and frankly still think

> it's bs. I mean, how much influence can be obtained from rituals when

> simple meditation is much more powerful because it's more sentient. I don't

> know. I'm not really judgemental about it. But I'll tell you this much. I

> don't need to invoke deities because they are already all right here. I

> don't think the ill of the occult is the powers invoked, but the unbalanced

> awareness of just a single or few powers at once. All the hierarchies and

> powers of all the realms exist simultaneously just where we are, if you

> look, and we need not spend time courting some small deity, especially some

> goetic imp. Why ask a bug about God when you can just ask Her. Or Him. Or

> Itthem.

>

 

 

 

 

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Well, remember-- there are many paths to thew same goal. Some people

NEED the ceremonial trappings to become one-pointed. Some people

don't.

 

And, there are tasks that one can often do better with a "come of

power" (focused group energy).

 

 

, thunderheals@a...

wrote:

> Know exactly what you mean.

> Was reading the Keys of Solomon and the Grimoires when I was in high

> school..indeed..why bother when you can meditate ??

>

> I guess its a matter of understanding people or trying to understand

people

> where they were at.

>

> One of the most profound things I heard Muktananda say once was

"Honor

> others' ignorance"..what he was saying was in reference to a woman'

s family

> who were giving her trouble for meditating. He said we need to

realize that

> many people we come in contact with are living the Truth in the best

way they

> can interpret and understand it and "don't know better"..

>

> Find that teaching comes back to me every now and again when I get

annoyed

> with occultists doing such "high school" stuff. Guess the 15 mukhi

is serving

> me well for it teaches detachment.. to move past my emotions and

> reactions...also found out if I wear it to the gym I can get thru

these realy

> primo difficult workouts..cause it pushes me away from "tyranny of

the body"

> :-)

>

> In a message dated 12/9/2002 10:33:44 PM Central Standard Time,

> kirk_bernhardt@c... writes:

>

>

> > A woman code name Monocle who was Regardie's secretary did the

Watchtower

> > ritual and had myself and my sister and two others over to watch

it. She

> > had Case's pentacle, Regardies Staff, Waite's Chalice, Crowley's

Clothes,

> > and original Equinox. It was a watery, rather tepid ritual where

I felt

> > the life and vigor weren't much present. It felt very elemental,

but not

> > spiritual, hard to describe. Wearing Crowley's stuff. I don't

remember.

> > I was honored and proud, but wasn't into that stuff then. I had

already

> > studied Crowley and wrapped up my interest by that age. Plus had

bad acid

> > trips and was merely an adolescent, and I just wanted to be

normal. I even

> > now follow the occult through these and frankly still

think

> > it's bs. I mean, how much influence can be obtained from rituals

when

> > simple meditation is much more powerful because it's more

sentient. I don't

> > know. I'm not really judgemental about it. But I'll tell you this

much. I

> > don't need to invoke deities because they are already all right

here. I

> > don't think the ill of the occult is the powers invoked, but the

unbalanced

> > awareness of just a single or few powers at once. All the

hierarchies and

> > powers of all the realms exist simultaneously just where we are,

if you

> > look, and we need not spend time courting some small deity,

especially some

> > goetic imp. Why ask a bug about God when you can just ask Her. Or

Him. Or

> > Itthem.

> >

>

>

>

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