Rudraksa and Jyotish Astrology

April 28, 2006

Namaste.

For myself as well as recommendation s I have done for others...

I have stayed away for the most part from astrology.

I know that this has been a traditional use of the rudraksha, but has been

much more beneficial for myself especially to approach the rudraksha from the

perspective that the individual facets are emanations of the Divine via

specific Deites.

I truly believe that each mukhi is such an emanation of the Divine..as

mentioned before, a murti, a true form. We are in the presence of God and

having darshan when we wear them.

So if Creator sustains and orchestrates the movements of the planets....

It is our birthrite to enter into a consciousness and a reality that is

higher, greater and more powerful than the planets.

It just seems to me that to focus on this or that malefic planet in one's

birth chart is limiting whereas the rudraksha are all about empowerment and

boundlessness. Just seems too limiting and confining to box the rudraksha

into astrological catagories.

Mother Father God is omnipotent and unlimited. Those same qualites have been

given to us as Divine gifts in the form of the rudrakshas

If one is concerned about their chart, they wear 10 mukhi.

I hope this isn't too radical of an approach to rudraksha usage..but has been

the way

I have interacted with the beads from the very beginning.

Thanks.

Kanti

Om Namah Shivaya Shivaya Namah Om

In a message dated 12/7/2002 1:48:59 PM Central Standard Time,

shininglotus writes:

> Would be great to hear from anyone who has experience with

> application of Rudraksa and Ratna to Jyotish Astrology remedial

> recommendations

April 28, 2006

You know..It is a matter of perspective, actually..

We all have karma because that is why we are all here.

Karma is indicated in astrological aspects.

There are specific rudraksha to over come specific malefic planets.

So its just like when a person has a specific disease, they are given an

antidote, a remedy to cure the disease.

So the rudrakshas are there to cure and irradicate the karmic circumstances

presented in the Chart.

If presented in this Light..such an astrological presentation would actually

assist a soul on the road to liberation.

There is a rule in Flower Essence Therapy : Treat the person not the

disease...

so what is important here is that a person not identify or "own" the

astrological aspects.. but as you say..see it as curriculum and know that

with the Grace of the Divine enshrined in the beads..one can "graduate" form

the school of the incarnation..

sometimes quite quickly..the rest of the time here then could be recess. :-)

If specific rudraksha are there to assist individual then that means that the

person has a resonance with that aspect of the Divine represented by that

mukhi. Tantra in its highest form is the ability to generate oneself into the

Deity..so within the individual is that spark of the Divine that will insure

their overcoming.

Just had that flash..enuf preaching from Missouri. :-)

April 28, 2006

Dear Miss Kanti

Your consciousness and awareness in all this continually accelerates the

Knowledge

Thank you for this perfect message

DharmaDev

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Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:41 PM

Re: Rudraksa and Jyotish Astrology

Yes, have found that the rudraksha far outweighs gems in potency and power.

However, have also found that the gems seem to assist us in receivng the the

Grace contained in the beads in the way that they can bring balance and

harmony to the system.

Also just scored a whole bunch of amethyst yesterday ..so am having fun

combining with rudraksha.

By all means jyotish astrology is a wonderful starting place...but it is

very

easy for an individual to get boxed and confined by astrology..East or West.

I feel that we are more than our astrological charts and that we have been

given the tools that burn the karma that is represented in natal charts.

There is a Shaivite scripture called the Sri Skanda Purana that teaches that

the Grace of Lord Shiva can pull a devotee out of the entrapments of the

planets and burns away all karma. It was something that I read and studied

and chanted daily 20 years ago and it has always stayed with me.

In fact, 20 years ago I was working professionally as sidreal astrologer and

gave the practice up as I really found that I had to make a choice where

Truth was for me..in an ephemeris or in the Vedas. I saw too many people I

worked with trapped in fear and being completely disempowered based on what

an astrology chart said.

I just suggest that the notion be considered that Rudrakshas have their

basis in the Absolute although manifesting in the Relative sphere of

existance that they can and do pull us out of any karmic circumstance. The

spiritual acceleration that the rudraksha empower us with completely changes

us to a cellular level. To coin phrases from Christianity..we do indeed

become new creatures, we do become born again into a new life because karmic

patterns can be completely and totally removed...the past becomes just that

..something that is over and gone.

We can graduate from this incarnation while in this incarnation.

That's what is so great about this group because we are all scratching our

heads and looking around and wondering what's happening..because there isn't

anything else like rudrakshas on the planet !! :-D

Everyone's experience of the individual mukhis are going to be subjective

and

somewhat different from each other because there is a huge variety of

experience we each bring into the moment that we first discover them. But

there is also a commonality and a bond because these powerful changes are

happening and usually rather quickly. :-)

(9 Mukhi is Goddess Durga, whose form all Devis,including Sri Lakshmi,

Spring

from, all Creation springs from.

Maha Lakshmi does have a specific resonance with 7 mukhi)

In a message dated 12/7/2002 6:06:41 PM Central Standard Time,

karisprowl writes:

> Excellent points, Kantiji! (as always!) But, remember, I am not as

> sophisticated as you are in the Eastern systems, Godforms, and

> symbologies. I'm starting from a beginner's level. I'm going from

> specifics to the global (or, rather beyond global <g>), and you are

> WAY past global.

>

> And, the way I see it, in Jyotish astrology, all swords are

> double-edged. Every malefic (ESPECIALLY the malefics) also confers

> rich gifts. Of course, Ketu and Rahu represent past and present karma.

> Every benific also holds a lesson that might not be any fun, unless

> one has been given a "karmic overview" by an excellent astrologer

> (when the lesson can often be seen as downright funny!).

>

> So... when I touch or look at, say, the 3 mukhi I use to placate

> maraka Mars, it also reminds me of two things: 1) the special gifts

> that that planetary placement has conferred (there are several), and

> 2) the lessons that the karmic placement of the planet wants to teach

> me (like, reigning in my fire element).

>

> That's why I wear beads for each planet that is in a "clearly karmic"

> placement, rather than just the "Om, Shanti combination". It makes me

> mindful of what I am supposed to be doing, so that I can "graduate"

> from this incarnation. I am reminded of both the specific lessons that

> I must accomplish, and the "gifts" (playing pieces) that I have also

> been given to that end every time I touch my choker, or see it in a

> mirror.

>

> I wear the Venus beads, not just to enhance an "unusually well-placed

> Venus." They also remind me to be as compassionate and as loving as I

> can be (which wasn't always easy, for me). They remind me to keep in

> touch with what Qaballists would call my "Netzach" side-- the side

> that enjoys beauty in all of it's forms. They remind me to look for

> the beauty in each of the folks that I encounter, throughout my

> workday (that was another toughie).

>

> I wear the Mercury beads not just for my Revati nakshatra. Mercury is

> also the planet of words. The 4 mukhi remind me to be careful of my

> words, because the most dangerous weapon on the planet is the

> word-processor-- not the Bomb.

>

> Wearing a pair of eights to head off a nasty Rahu dasa also has lead

> me into a relationship with Lord Ganesha. I can't help but think this

> was the purpose of "stumbling" across some astrological services at

> JUST the right time (synchronicity!) I think maybe Lord Ganesha was

> just waiting for the right time to bonk me over the head, to get me to

> wise up. <g>

>

> Wearing the nines don't just enhance a yogakaraka Saturn. They remind

> me of duty and responsibility. Because they are the bead of Laxmi,

> they remind me to work on "prosperity consciousness."

>

> So, in a way-- the beads are like carrying around little "post-its" of

> planetary reminders-- gifts and challenges, as well as mitigating

> karma.

>

> BTW-- I have to say that I also tried the gems, and I think the beads

> work MUCH better.

>

April 28, 2006