On Enlightenment,Maharishi

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Dear Sy

 

Is this similar or the same as the Upa Guru mentioned in Healing Mantras book by

Thomas Ashley-Farrand

 

Thanks

 

DharmaDev

 

Syzenith <syzenith

 

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:55 AM

On Enlightenment,Maharishi

 

 

Namaste Friends,

 

I followed your posts with great interest and sincerity. May I humbly

add: There is also the "Adi Guru".

 

Om Shanti Om,

Sy

 

, thunderheals@a... wrote:

> Dear Kirkji:

>

> I had a similar experience to yours.

> Many years ago I left the Ashram I considered my home.

> The Guru had taken mahasamadhi and there become a terrible

distortion of the

> Shakti, a greed and a desire to attract "celebraties", etc.

>

> It was devasting, In fact I left Shaivite Practices all together

and stayed

> with the Tibetan Buddhist Sangha for many, many years.. Now in

retrospect, I

> see how everything was perfect and in Divine Order.

>

> Even within the Tibetan Buddhist Community there have manifested

> "questionable" teachers, false Gurus, if you will,

> and I remember reading one time this very question was put before

HH The

> Dalai Lama.

>

> His response was to be grateful for the Truth that you were taught

and leave

> the rest behind. But also to have compassion for the teacher and to

pray for

> the teacher.

> Very simple. But very profound. It helped me a great deal and has

especially

> opened my heart now that I have come home to Lord Shiva. I realize

the solid

> foundation of Maha Vidya that did come to me and I can release all

of the

> garbage.

>

> To hold on and remember the awfulness..I was literally thrown out

(as we

> others) of the organization..Only causes me to become contracted

and too lose

> my boundless vision.

>

> If I let it go and try not to analyze of feel bitter or judge the

> organization and everything..I contribute to my own freedom..

> Because in these kinds of situations the karma is immense when such

control

> and negativity come into play. People become trapped with these

distortions

> out of karma ..The teacher misuing the power will suffer terrible

karmic

> repercussions.

>

> We don't need to figure it out. We can just walk away with the good

that we

> found. That is something , that you know can not be taken away. And

we can

> pray that all of the souls trapped in this mire ..as you say..wake

up.

>

> Don't let this situation sour you on Gurus. True Gurus are still

very much on

> the planet in bodies.

> The Shiva Sutras say that "The Guru is the means and The Guru is

not a

> person, but the Grace bestowing power of God"

>

> That Grace touches us and guides us. We find the form in a teacher.

We find

> the form in the scriptures and we find the

> form in the Rudrakshas, most certainly. We also become Gurus to

each other.

>

> Om Namah Shivaya

> Kanti

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Miss

 

Yes of course makes perfect sense

 

Thanks for clarification

 

Take Care My Freind

 

DharmaDev

 

Syzenith <syzenith

 

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Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:20 AM

On Enlightenment,Maharishi

 

 

Namaskaram DharmaDev Arya,

 

Read his book a long time ago but can't recall the contents. Lent the

book to a friend and it never got returned. So I can't comment

about "Upa Guru".

 

Very humbly, my understanding of "Adi Guru" begins with the terms "by

the side of" and "with". As in the 'teacher within' or "inner

voice", "inner guide"; Accessible through meditation, contemplation,

visualization (dhyana), devotion, puja and mantra.

 

Adi = Primordial. Adi-Guru = The Father, Wisdom, Shiva; emanating in

the heart and 'higher mind'. But very few mortals find the true "Adi-

Guru" because that is when they no longer need to practice for

they've attained. Its like "To know others is wise, but to know

Oneself is enlightenment".

 

Hope this "gurgle" above makes sense.

 

Most humbly,

Sy

 

, "ShiningLotus"

<shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> Dear Sy

>

> Is this similar or the same as the Upa Guru mentioned in Healing

Mantras book by Thomas Ashley-Farrand

>

> Thanks

>

> DharmaDev

 

 

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