Ven. Kunsang Dechen Lingpa

[Guest guest]

Hi.

 

I'm not familiar with this particular Lama, but I get a good feel from this.

H.H. Dudjom Rinpoche was the head of the Nyingmapa School Tradition, which is

where Dzogchen is practiced.

He passed in the early 90's. This tells be that this is a legitmate teacher,

a tulku, a re-incarnate, a boddhisattva who has the power of death that he

can enter back into a body to become a lama again..that's what these guys do.

 

The Nyingmapa tradition is very, very closely connected to the energy, the

feel of The Shaivite Tradition.

There is a thoroughly wonderful and readable book called "Cities of

Lightening" by a wonderful Shaivite Pujari who now lives in a Buddhist

monestary named Samudranath. You would love his sense of humor :-)

Book is published by a tiny publisher called Blue Dolphin Publishing and can

get directly from them

www.bluedolphinpublishing.com

 

Don't know what you know about Tibetan Buddhism..

A transmission is an energetic form of teaching..the essence of a teaching is

passed on from a master to a student.

So you will get intellectual studies here, but you will also be blasted by a

very profound shakti that will stay with you and continue to teach you.

 

Wouldn't mind getting a dose of "cutting through fixation" :-)

 

Tertons are totally cool. They're are particular Lamas that are in this

tradition.

They are treasure revealers of specifc teachings that were hidden in the

subtle realms by Guru Padmasambahava who brought the Buddha dharma to Tibet

from India

 

Copy says: "Rinpoche is renowned for his "pure vision" treasure revelations

of Dorje Drollo, Troma Nagmo and many others he directly received from

Padmasambhava. In these times of rampant degeneration Rinpoche's teachings

illuminate and dispel the darkness of ignorance, delusion and suffering."

 

Dorje Drollo and Troma Nagmo are very fierce wrathful Deities and Dharma

Protectors. Energy similar to Goddess Kali except masculine. He's also

getting Padmasambhava coming to him and giving him teachings.

 

This is most definately a very high being.

 

I spent most of my time with the Nyingmapas and the Gelugs, which is the

Dalai Lama's Tradition.

I had/have a major heart connection with the Nyingmapas..guess it is the

Himalayan/Shivalike energy.

The tertons especially are totally outrageous. These guys are totally free.

They have the proper decorum..but every now and then they let the veil down

and you get a peak of the state they are in and they are totally stoked out

drunk on bliss 24/7 !

 

Note the cost ..$300 for a week !

Very typical of legitimate Buddhist teachers. The prices are always very

inexpensive.

Its unfortunate that the Dalai Lama has become such a "Celebrity" as prices

for his events can sometimes be pretty outrageously expenseive these days.

But you get these Rinpoches, like this who are Gurus in their own right and

their

events are usually very intimate and very affordable. High prices for the

Dalai Lama goes to the Tibetan Community in exile, by the way.

 

I was in this Light for 12 years and am grateful for it and still try to

apply the teachings of Compassion and Boddhichitta to my life. I lived in New

York City far too long simply because it became Dharma Disney land from the

huge Gathering of Lamas with the Dalai Lama for Kalachakra Empowerment in

1992 untill 9/11.

 

You could go into somebody's apartment and receive teachings and empowerments

from a visiting Rinpoche and pay maybe $20 a day.

 

Now it is difficult for teachers to get Visas from India after 9/11. There

are a few whole live in the US.

 

Really sounds completely wonderful.

Forgive the ramble. But there is a cohesiveness between what we are doing and

this sacred path.

Besides..some of my best mala customers are Buddhists :-)

 

Namaste

Kanti

 

In a message dated 11/25/2002 11:26:23 PM Central Standard Time,

kirk_bernhardt writes:

 

 

> What do you think of this?

> Ven. Kunsang Dechen Lingpa

>

> New Years Dzogchen Empowerments and Teachings

>

> Longchen Rabjams Nyingtig Yabshi

>

> December 30 - January 5, 2003

>

> Bristol, Vermont

>

>

>

> Venerable Kunsang Dechen Lingpa

>

> The Nyingtig Yabshi or "Four Cycles of the Heart Essence" was compiled by

> Longchen Rabjam (1308-1363) and contains the quintessential Dzogchen

> Empowerments and practice instructions of both Padmasambhava and

> Vimalamitra. These transmissions contain detailed instructions on the

> practices of Trekcho "cutting through fixation" and Thogal "surpassing the

> peak" and have rarely ever been given in the West or even Tibet. Due to his

> vast kindness and compassion Ven. Kunsang Dechen Lingpa is offering this

> inconceivable blessing for practitioners committed to the path of Dzogchen.

>

>

>

> Rinpoche is a terton or "treasure revealer" of the Nyingmapa tradition.

> Born in 1929 in Lhodak Dakar, Tibet, he was recognized by H.H. Dudjom

> Rinpoche as the Lodhak Terton, the reincarnation of Terton Longsel Nyingpo,

> of the Drubchen Melong Dorje lineage. Rinpoche is renowned for his "pure

> vision" treasure revelations of Dorje Drollo, Troma Nagmo and many others

> he directly received from Padmasambhava. In these times of rampant

> degeneration Rinpoche's teachings illuminate and dispel the darkness of

> ignorance, delusion and suffering.

>

> Ven. Kunsang Dechen Lingpa personifies wisdom, compassion, spiritual power,

> integrity and delight in life. For committed practitioners, this is a rare

> opportunity to receive this direct transmission from a fully realized

> master who embodies the heart essence of Dzogchen Atiyoga.

>

> The Nyingtig Yabshi will be given from December 30 - January 5th 2003 in

> Bristol, Vermont.

>

> Schedule

>

> Dec. 30: 5-8pm Lama Yangtig Empowerment

> Dec. 31: 1-3pm, 6-8pm Teachings on Lama Yangtig

> Jan. 1: 11am-1pm, 4-6pm Zabmo Nyingtig Empowerement and Teachings

> Jan. 2: 5-8pm Khandro Nyingtig/Yangtig Empowerment

> Jan. 3: 5-8pm Khandro Nyingtig/Yangtig Teachings

> Jan. 4: 11am-1pm, 5-8pm Vima Nyingtig Empowerment and Teachings

> Jan. 5: 11am-1pm, 4-6pm Tsok and Pewang/Teaching for Kunsang Dechen

> Lingpa's Guru Yoga

>

> Please note this schedule was modified according to Rinpoches wishes from

> the previous schedule.

>

> We are also planning a New Years Eve event.

>

> Pre-registration is required for the Nyingtig Yabshi.

>

> The suggested donation for these empowerments, transmissions and practice

> instructions is $300. There will be limited work study and partial

> scholarships available.

>

> Due to the rare opportunity to be able to receive the Nyingtig Yabshi

> practitioners are encouraged to register early as we expect space

> limitations.

>

> Limited housing will be available. We have reserved some Bed and Breakfasts

> at reduced rates for those coming from out of town. For those with limited

> resources we are also working on other housing options. To be assured of

> having housing please contact us ASAP so we will be able to meet everyones

> needs.

>

> For further event information, registration and housing please contact:

>

> ddcvermont

>

> or call 802-453-3431

>

> Online Registration

>

> You can also register online and receives updates for these teachings on

> our web page

>

> http://www.kagyu-medialab.org/ddcvermont/yabshi.html

>

> These teachings are sponsored by the

>

> Drikung Dzogchen Community Vermont

>

> with The Zangdokpalri Foundation for Great Compassion

>

> May these precious teachings benefit all beings.

>

>

>

> The Drikung Dzogchen Community Vermont (DDCV) was founded in Lincoln, VT on

> Lha Bab Duchen, November 7, 2001 by most Venerable Ontul Rinpoche.

>

> The DDCV is in the spirit of the great Rime Tradition.

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

These teachings and anything that entails empowerments are part of the

Vajrayana path of Highest Yoga Tantra.

 

Truth is Truth.

Tantra is Tantra

 

The unfortunate calamity of the Chinese invasion of Tibet has reaped a

treasure for the world in that these hidden mysterious are being freely

revealed and given.

 

Empowerments can be taken as a blessing.

What a wonderful way to spend the New Year.

 

I did the same New Years 1999/2000 on a TB retreat in the RainForest of Puget

Sound ..5 Days .

The Lamas including the Dalai Lama proclaim that this is not so much a

religion as it is a way of life in which the mind is being trained to let go

of afflictive emotions.

 

Therefore any person can benefit from it. No One is forced to

"convert"..ever.

 

Is it not "ironic" that in these Days of Kali Yuga that these treasures are

manifesting.

We all can learn and need to learn more about how to practice compassion.

 

Feel free, to email me at home, Kirkji on any of this.

I think you will have a ball. (Much Colder in Vermont that time of the year

than your neck of the woods)

 

Have even more fun

Kanti

Om Mani Padme Hum ? :-)

 

In a message dated 11/26/2002 5:08:23 AM Central Standard Time,

kirk_bernhardt writes:

 

 

> Thank you. I'm going. TB is a totally new thing for me and I have tried to

> read everything. I'll get that book you mentioned. Yes,I always felt that

> maybe Siva and Samamtabhadra are verysimilar maybe? Though Buddhists won't

> agree. Not being really tied to a dogma free one to make more connections

> between them I feel.

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have seen Tibetan Rudraksha listed on e-bay.

5 mukhi is good as they practice Guru Yoga.

I also made a mala for a practitioner with 6 Mukhi Meru.

Om Mani Padme Hum is mantra of the Buddha of Compassion and all traditions

honor it.

It is called the 6 Syllable Mantra and is said to remove Pain and suffering

in the world.

 

What is so totally cool There are some Mandalas of the Mani Mantra that look

identical to a view of a 6 mukhi from the top.

 

It would be a lovely and a profound gesture, Kirkji and don't be taken aback

if he gives it back to you as it is a way for him to give a blesing back to

you and not an unusal custom. Make sure you say that it is a gift and that

its not your personal mala you want blessed. More than likely he won't speak

English.

 

 

In a message dated 11/26/2002 10:54:55 AM Central Standard Time,

kirk_bernhardt writes:

 

 

> Thank you. Do you think Lamas like rudraksha, and if so what mukhi?

> -

> thunderheals

>

> Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:19 AM

> Re: Ven. Kunsang Dechen Lingpa

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

But do you think a lama would "get" it if he got a strand of one mukhis or

something like that? I gues what I am asking is don't they have their own

history for rudrakhsa somewhere since they are right near Nepal?

-

thunderheals

Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:37 PM

Re: Ven. Kunsang Dechen Lingpa

 

 

I have seen Tibetan Rudraksha listed on e-bay.

5 mukhi is good as they practice Guru Yoga.

I also made a mala for a practitioner with 6 Mukhi Meru.

Om Mani Padme Hum is mantra of the Buddha of Compassion and all traditions

honor it.

It is called the 6 Syllable Mantra and is said to remove Pain and suffering

in the world.

 

What is so totally cool There are some Mandalas of the Mani Mantra that look

identical to a view of a 6 mukhi from the top.

 

It would be a lovely and a profound gesture, Kirkji and don't be taken aback

if he gives it back to you as it is a way for him to give a blesing back to

you and not an unusal custom. Make sure you say that it is a gift and that

its not your personal mala you want blessed. More than likely he won't speak

English.

 

 

In a message dated 11/26/2002 10:54:55 AM Central Standard Time,

kirk_bernhardt writes:

 

 

> Thank you. Do you think Lamas like rudraksha, and if so what mukhi?

> -

> thunderheals

>

> Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:19 AM

> Re: Ven. Kunsang Dechen Lingpa

>

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I know some of the trees grow in Tibet and rudraksha have been used

there..but have seen no documentation.

Am certain a Lama would get it..if not intellectually, energetically.

Gosh, Kirk they can probably see stuff coming off the beads that you and I

can only feel :-)

 

In a message dated 11/26/2002 4:59:24 PM Central Standard Time,

kirk_bernhardt writes:

 

 

> But do you think a lama would "get" it if he got a strand of one mukhis or

> something like that? I gues what I am asking is don't they have their own

> history for rudrakhsa somewhere since they are right near Nepal?

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks for answering. I know a bit about Pema Chodron, she lived as a female

yogi for ten years and is kinda hunched over, and a very bright being. So do

you think it's possible to be TB and Shaivitte? Because I'm always trying to

reconcile my love of Shiva and Lakshmi with Buddhist thought. I mean, I guess

one can worship the absolute and call it the void or whatever. What do you

think. Is the void satchidananda? Thanks for your thoughts. Is Samantabhadra

Siva?

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

thunderheals

Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:59 PM

Re: Ven. Kunsang Dechen Lingpa

 

 

Ha.

 

Currently, since the Full moon, I've been chanting and/or meditating upon the

Lalita Sahasranama.

Also have been reading and pondering, meditating on "The Wisdom of No Escape"

by Pema Chodron, a western TB nun who runs a monastary in Nova Scotia.

 

Her books are great as they show practical ways to apply Spiritual teachings

to everyday life circumstance.

 

Have recently made a couple of head malas.. a 2 mukhi and a Goddess mala with

9's, 6&4's and 7's which I will be adding a couple of 12's that is working

nicely. Had been using 15 mukhi quite a bit..but feel I need to process all

of that light for a while.

 

My main mantras for meditation are Om Namah Shivaya and Goddess Durga's

mantra.

 

I have gone back fully and whole heartedly to Shaivite Practices almost

exactly a year ago .. What I actually do seems to shift according to moon

cycle.

 

I also sing in a 50 member Gospel Choir consisting of 45 African Americans

and 5 Caucasions. I am one of the white people. It is extraordinarily

powerful and to me is a form of kirtan (with a really awesome back beat where

you can get down and get a Praise Funk going).. But I know it is helping me

in some of the mantra research I'm doing and its all about getting yourself

out of the way so these amazing sounds can come out of you.

 

People under the influence of the Holy Spirit do the very same things that

people in Ashrams do who are having Kundalini Experiences. (There are choir

members that are also mala customers.)

 

Also have found the seva of mala making a spiritual practice in and of

itself.

I've always followed my heart when it comes to what my daily discipline is.

MY heart truly belongs to Shiva and the TB philosophy keeps me mindful of

keeping mindful and also of Compassion.

Singing in a Christian Church allows me an opportunity to Glorify God and to

me with a powerful Group who has the capability of bringing people into a

very high state.

 

It works for me :-)

 

 

In a message dated 11/26/2002 5:41:53 PM Central Standard Time,

kirk_bernhardt writes:

 

 

> What do you do now Kantiji? Spiritual wise

> -

> thunderheals

> To

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

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really thank you for this as not all buddhists are open minded. When I was going

to go to kalachakra I spoke with some people who really turned me off because

they were so pompous. I wish I hadn't let them.

 

 

 

 

 

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of the Oriental traditions is the experience of enlightenment, of perfect

tranquility and bliss. This experience is fully attained through the

Thunder-Beings, through their clear-light blessings, and through their power and

wisdom.

The Thunder-Beings awaken the earth through sound and light (thunder and

lightning). Likewise, through sound and light (name and image) they extend

themselves to awaken the mind. Their names and images are used in

visualization-based meditations and form the basis of the Oriental traditions of

Tantra. Through the proper use of these images and sacred sound in meditation,

we can fully liberate our minds from suffering and become a Thunder-Being

ourselves, capable of flawlessly guiding all sentient beings to the enlightened

state. Through the grace of the Enlightened Ones we can at present become a lamp

of crystal clear wisdom-light to directly purify our mind, to alleviate the

suffering of beings, to create a climate of health and harmony, to pacify

harmful influences, to precipitate world peace, and to create a continuous rain

of blessings to nourish the hearts of all sentient beings.

 

Cities of Lightning is an exposition on the clear-light imagery and its

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Shiva Megharaj, and Venerable Lei Kung, the Wisdom-sources of the three Oriental

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-

thunderheals

Tuesday, November 26, 2002 6:56 PM

Re: Ven. Kunsang Dechen Lingpa

 

 

I Have heard HH the Dalai Lama speak more than once when he has said to an

audience that he hoped that people would be able to apply his teachings to

their own Spiritual Life regardless of Religion.

 

I have been at his teachings when he would suggest while leading a Dharana

that Catholics visualize Mother Mary.

He has suggested using The Prayer of St. Francis to know Compassion.

 

What I like best about the Buddha Dharma is the element of Compassion, of

Boddhichitta, of Gaining enlightenment for the welfare of others and it is

that which I can apply to Shaivite Practices.

 

Perhaps it is a matter of how deeply you enter into the practices.

Are the Buddhas Deities? are they all part of the Devata?

 

I find the Shaivite explanation of Creation and the nature of Reality a far

better explanation than Buddhist.

I think it is a matter of following your heart because I think many of us are

sewing up and awful lot of past lives this time round...from different Paths.

 

As His Holiness Says, Take what you need from the teachings and leave the

rest.

Because there is something in the teachings for everyone that need not

conflict their spiritual path. In fact he encourages people to not leave

their own religion ..

 

I think once you get in the waters, you can decide how far you need to swim.

 

As mentioned. I left a very horrendous situation at the ashram that was my

Spiritual Home for 11 years before entering the Buddhist tradition. I thought

that was where I was staying.

 

Lord Shiva had other plans. Literally swept me off my feet last year and here

I am. I rejoice in where I am and where I came from.

 

Also what's neat about the Buddhists, not only are they not interested in

converting anyone, but they tell people to not take anything that is taught

on blind faith. They encourage people to truly test what is taught them. To

dig for answers.

 

I think if you get that Cities of Lightening book alot of Questions will be

cleared up as Samadrunath goes into depth about the different Deities and

corresponding Deities in both Paths.

 

Also, Our Friend, David Allen Hulse has done alot of explorations of the two

paths.

 

Here is something neat I just discovered..Red Tara , one of the Female

Buddhas of Compassion also goes by the name Kuru Kulle. Kuru Kulle is a name

of Goddess Lalita. There are pictures of both Deities in the 2 traditions and

She is holding the exact same implements !! Well, what do you know??

 

 

In a message dated 11/26/2002 6:17:27 PM Central Standard Time,

kirk_bernhardt writes:

 

 

> Thanks for answering. I know a bit about Pema Chodron, she lived as a

> female yogi for ten years and is kinda hunched over, and a very bright

> being. So do you think it's possible to be TB and Shaivitte? Because I'm

> always trying to reconcile my love of Shiva and Lakshmi with Buddhist

> thought. I mean, I guess one can worship the absolute and call it the void

> or whatever. What do you think. Is the void satchidananda? Thanks for

> your thoughts. Is Samantabhadra Siva?

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Sounds good. And then we'll ride with Kalki in the Great War at the end of time!

And save Shambala! I can't wait. I've always wanted to hack the unrighteous to

pieces. (Only I've always thought that was me!)

-

thunderheals

Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:25 PM

Re: Ven. Kunsang Dechen Lingpa

 

 

I was debating about going or not since I didn't know if I was "really

Buddhist" anymore when a really good friend who lives in Toronto and is

Buddhist ( and owns a Siddh Rudraksha mala) offered me a place to stay.

 

He said we are living in a remarkable age when we have the chance to have the

Dalai Lama's Darshan and just that in and of itself is reason enough.

Everything opened up for me with Kalachakra in 1992, so I am already planning

a mala to make to wear :-)

 

Don't know if I'm Buddhist, Shaivite or Christian formally...

But will stand under the Thunder Being banner, so after that everything else

just falls into place.

 

We'll have to connect before so we can meet up in TO. Toronto has been like a

2nd home to me for alot of years. Will be catching up with a lot of friends

:-)

 

In a message dated 11/26/2002 8:16:35 PM Central Standard Time,

kirk_bernhardt writes:

 

 

> Yes, I plan on going.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

11/26/2002 3:37:19 PM, thunderheals wrote:

 

>Om Mani Padme Hum is mantra of the Buddha of Compassion and all traditions

>honor it.

>It is called the 6 Syllable Mantra and is said to remove Pain and suffering

>in the world.

 

Would you clarify what you meant by "all traditions"? I'm very interested in

this

mantram and have wondered whether it is used in the Hindu tradition. Or did you

mean "all Buddhist traditions"?

 

Pranams,

Shivaram

 

 

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A sadhu taught, 'God is in all things. Reverence all

as God.' One day a disciple went out and met a mad

elephant on the road. The driver on top shouted, 'Move

away!' The man did not do it, instead offering prayers

and reverences to the elephant as God. The elephant took

him up with his trunk and dashed him aside. The man was

severely hurt. His guru told him: 'God was also in the

form of the driver. Why did you not listen to the God

on top?'"

-Sri Ramakrishna

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Guest guest]

Right On!

(has something to do with loud rude music) :-D

 

In a message dated 11/26/2002 9:06:10 PM Central Standard Time,

kirk_bernhardt writes:

 

 

> Sounds good. And then we'll ride with Kalki in the Great War at the end of

> time! And save Shambala! I can't wait. I've always wanted to hack the

> unrighteous to pieces. (Only I've always thought that was me!)

>

 

 

 

 

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