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Greetings to all.

 

I could not find any definitive guide to what kind of food is or is

not acceptable to a devotee wearing a Rudraksha mala ? Is it enough

to follow the guidelines laid down by your caste or do we have

special guidelines for these devotees ? questions like is meat ok ?

and if fasting is advised on any specific day(s) etc ...

 

Best Regards,

-Vinayak

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These guidelines are for more of a devotee of Rudrakshas and Shiva,

not necessarily devotees of God, to clarify. I'm pasting this from

the file I've uploaded that I took from Sw. Sivananda's translation

of the Rudraksha Jabala Upanishad:

 

"One who wears Rudrakshas, should not use intoxicants, meat, garlic,

onions, carrots and all such prohibited things. By wearing Rudrakshas

during eclipses, Vishusankranti (the end of Mina and beginning of

Mesha Masa), new moon, full moon and other such auspicious days,

one is freed of all sins."

 

Remember that things like garlic, onions, and meat are

mostly "rajasic" foods that support/create passion and

animal characteristics (sex, aggressions, etc.).

While this is usually not good for a sadhak, who ideally

would eat sattvic food to encourage peace and truth, etc.

I can say from experience, that eating rajasic food helps

me to deal with a rajasic world, that is, I live and work

among people who are very animal like, and I know I'd be

overwhelmed if I played the peaceful tranquil, having eaten

only sattvic food. It's a jungle out there for some of us.

If I had the ideal conditions, sure I would eat only

vegetarian, but I do what I must. However, due to my

continuous sadhana, there are times when I involuntarily

refrain from eating meat or certain foods.

 

tom

check the FILES section for the full text or search the

web for lordsiva.pdf

 

 

 

, "vs_raghuvamshi"

<vs_raghuvamshi> wrote:

> Greetings to all.

>

> I could not find any definitive guide to what kind of food is or is

> not acceptable to a devotee wearing a Rudraksha mala ? Is it enough

> to follow the guidelines laid down by your caste or do we have

> special guidelines for these devotees ? questions like is meat ok ?

> and if fasting is advised on any specific day(s) etc ...

>

> Best Regards,

> -Vinayak

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, "Tomgull" <tomgull@e...>

wrote:

> These guidelines are for more of a devotee of Rudrakshas and

Shiva,

> not necessarily devotees of God, to clarify. I'm pasting this

from

> the file I've uploaded that I took from Sw. Sivananda's

translation

> of the Rudraksha Jabala Upanishad:

>

> "One who wears Rudrakshas, should not use intoxicants, meat,

garlic,

> onions, carrots and all such prohibited things. By wearing

Rudrakshas

> during eclipses, Vishusankranti (the end of Mina and beginning of

> Mesha Masa), new moon, full moon and other such auspicious days,

> one is freed of all sins."

>

> Remember that things like garlic, onions, and meat are

> mostly "rajasic" foods that support/create passion and

> animal characteristics (sex, aggressions, etc.).

> While this is usually not good for a sadhak, who ideally

> would eat sattvic food to encourage peace and truth, etc.

> I can say from experience, that eating rajasic food helps

> me to deal with a rajasic world, that is, I live and work

> among people who are very animal like, and I know I'd be

> overwhelmed if I played the peaceful tranquil, having eaten

> only sattvic food. It's a jungle out there for some of us.

> If I had the ideal conditions, sure I would eat only

> vegetarian, but I do what I must. However, due to my

> continuous sadhana, there are times when I involuntarily

> refrain from eating meat or certain foods.

>

> tom

> check the FILES section for the full text or search the

> web for lordsiva.pdf

>

>

>

> , "vs_raghuvamshi"

> <vs_raghuvamshi> wrote:

> > Greetings to all.

> >

> > I could not find any definitive guide to what kind of food is or

is

> > not acceptable to a devotee wearing a Rudraksha mala ? Is it

enough

> > to follow the guidelines laid down by your caste or do we have

> > special guidelines for these devotees ? questions like is meat

ok ?

> > and if fasting is advised on any specific day(s) etc ...

> >

> > Best Regards,

> > -Vinayak

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Thanks for the translated texts. Made interesting reading.

 

First of all, I am not sure how authentic this text is and find it

quite baseless. Unfortunately, Hindus by nature tend to believe in

anything that is said to be a "Scripture"....

 

These are my reflections :

 

1. This scripture says that a Rudraksha represents the supreme GOD

himeself. In that case, why does it prescribe those fancy numbers of

Rudrakshas to be worn on all parts of the body. If a Rudraksha is a

form of the Supreme, then just one should do. One GOD, one Rudraksha.

 

2. The numbers presented are so wierd, and contradict many other

texts that forbid wearing the Rudraksha on the wrists.

This "scripture" looks more like a sales pitch for the Rudraksha

Industry :-)

 

3. About the eating habits, I agree with another poster, the Chef

friend's views. The scriptures were written in a different age for a

totally different life scenario. We need some Guru and some Modern

day scriptures to guide us through this Kali Yugh. We cannot survive

by just eating Sattvic food because every body, including Brahmins

have to compete with all types of people and work hard to just

survive. This is not the age where one can eat just sattvic food,

and spend time only on devotion - the other animals will eat you in

no time... Unless ofcourse, you are either famous or very rich and

dont have to worry about monetary things.

 

We need some guidance on how to be a devotee and at the same time,

maintain our ability to survive in this earth.

 

Regards,

-Vinayak

, "Tomgull" <tomgull@e...>

wrote:

> These guidelines are for more of a devotee of Rudrakshas and

Shiva,

> not necessarily devotees of God, to clarify. I'm pasting this

from

> the file I've uploaded that I took from Sw. Sivananda's

translation

> of the Rudraksha Jabala Upanishad:

>

> "One who wears Rudrakshas, should not use intoxicants, meat,

garlic,

> onions, carrots and all such prohibited things. By wearing

Rudrakshas

> during eclipses, Vishusankranti (the end of Mina and beginning of

> Mesha Masa), new moon, full moon and other such auspicious days,

> one is freed of all sins."

>

> Remember that things like garlic, onions, and meat are

> mostly "rajasic" foods that support/create passion and

> animal characteristics (sex, aggressions, etc.).

> While this is usually not good for a sadhak, who ideally

> would eat sattvic food to encourage peace and truth, etc.

> I can say from experience, that eating rajasic food helps

> me to deal with a rajasic world, that is, I live and work

> among people who are very animal like, and I know I'd be

> overwhelmed if I played the peaceful tranquil, having eaten

> only sattvic food. It's a jungle out there for some of us.

> If I had the ideal conditions, sure I would eat only

> vegetarian, but I do what I must. However, due to my

> continuous sadhana, there are times when I involuntarily

> refrain from eating meat or certain foods.

>

> tom

> check the FILES section for the full text or search the

> web for lordsiva.pdf

>

>

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For the point of discussion, here are my responses:

 

> First of all, I am not sure how authentic this text is and find it

> quite baseless. Unfortunately, Hindus by nature tend to believe in

> anything that is said to be a "Scripture"....

 

Many psuedo-Hindus (Includes New Age, Metaphysics, etc.) tend to

discredit "scriptures" rather quickly, too. No offense to you.

 

 

> 1. This scripture says that a Rudraksha represents the supreme GOD

> himeself. In that case, why does it prescribe those fancy numbers

of

> Rudrakshas to be worn on all parts of the body. If a Rudraksha is a

> form of the Supreme, then just one should do. One GOD, one

Rudraksha.

 

All deities are the Supreme God himself, but usually aren't

worshipped as such except when the deity is seen as the ishta-

devata. In most of your major divisions (Vaishnavas, Shaivites,

Shaktas, etc.) each proclaim their god to be the most supreme over

the others. The numbers just show their effects. I'm sure in the

old days, there wasn't so much of a choice or market for them.

 

 

> 2. The numbers presented are so wierd, and contradict many other

> texts that forbid wearing the Rudraksha on the wrists.

> This "scripture" looks more like a sales pitch for the Rudraksha

> Industry :-)

 

What are the other texts about the wearing of Rudraksha? Please

give some examples of the differences. About the sales pitch, this

scripture seems to have been around before the modern increased

interest in the beads. Remember that the scripture is designed for

Rudra worshippers, hence the prescribed daily reading of it in the

phalasruti, like any other stotra. I didn't see where it said wear

them on the wrists, so I'm assuming it's referring to wearing them

where you'd wear the armlets (just above the elbow, and just below

topmost muscle on the arm). On another website, I saw talk about

wearing 3 4-mukhi beads on the right wrist for intelligence. The

right wrist is also specificed for yantra wearing, as an alternative

to around the neck, for Tantriks.

 

> 3. About the eating habits, I agree with another poster, the Chef

> friend's views. The scriptures were written in a different age for

a

> totally different life scenario. We need some Guru and some Modern

> day scriptures to guide us through this Kali Yugh. We cannot

survive

> by just eating Sattvic food because every body, including Brahmins

> have to compete with all types of people and work hard to just

> survive. This is not the age where one can eat just sattvic food,

> and spend time only on devotion - the other animals will eat you in

> no time... Unless ofcourse, you are either famous or very rich and

> dont have to worry about monetary things.

>

 

I agree, but there is credit to eating sattvic food for focusing on

God or attaining a calm mind. In an ashram setting even in America,

there really is no need to eat meat or rajasic foods, and meat and

garlic, etc. does increase heat in the body and can create

restlessness, and increase the sex drive. Try eating only

vegetarian food that you yourself have cooked for a few weeks, then

eat out or eat some meat. You'll see the difference. Eating

habits also depend on your geographic area and climate, and general

lifestyle. Scriptures just give the ideal to strive for, not to

adopt strictly for the rest of your life.

 

> We need some guidance on how to be a devotee and at the same time,

> maintain our ability to survive in this earth.

 

I've gotten most of my advice from Ammachi (Mata Amritanandamayi),

who encourages vegetarian eating, but understands the exceptions.

Not all of her devotees do, however. Being a devotee of God doesn't

require any diet restrictions at all. It does matter what path you

choose to practice, and whether or not your desire is simply to be a

devotee or to reach Realization, liberation, etc. It comes down

to your diet affecting your mind set, not necessarily a sin. The

times when I can't eat meat, I don't because even seeing it, I feel

like it's still alive. Other times my mindset determines whether I

eat something bland like MooGoo Gai Pan (chinese food) or if I'm

having problems with co-workers, it may be something sour like Lemon

Chicken (no vegetables).

 

There are ideal diets for each path and even deities. For example,

eating meat would seemingly be ok for a worshipper of left-hand

Tantric deities like Dhumavati or Bagalamukhi who eat meat. Eating

meat as a Krishna devotee wouldn't be "ideal" (especially to a

Vaishnavite traditionalist), but would still be ok depending on your

reasons for eating meat and/or the depth of your devotion (how much

your mind is towards God during the day).

 

I've also never seen any other color rudrakshas than the common

reddish-brown variety, however there are some that I have that

appear blackish. I'm tempted to string some in white thread as it

says, just to see if I like it.

 

just my thoughts,

tom

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