Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Dear Kirkji Namaskar and thank you for this great explanation You explain this clearly My Friend There is something else here would like your comments on Could you please add more to the Knowing of Rudra and Rudraksa specific to the 11 Mukhi Lord Hanuman Rudraksa and Rudraksa in general specific to Protection as it states in the references There are eleven Rudras and the eleventh Rudra is Hanuman and takeing his name ghosts and evil spirits run away In Siva Purana specifically is stated On seeing a man with the garland of Rudraksa all evil spirits ghosts Pisacas witches like Dakini and Sakni other malignant spirits evil charms and spells etcetera fly away suspecting a quarrel How do you resolve this reference and the mention in this message of rakshas ghouls and demons willingly follow Rudra in his wake and then next sentence that is none should feel to weak or sinful to partake of Rudraksa Please what is your thinking on this Why would there be reference stateing protection from physical attack and psychic attack if they also are able to partake of Rudraksa as doesnt make sense to me Thanks Dhanyawaad aur Pranams Mitra DharmDev Arya Kirk <kirk_bernhardt <> Friday, July 26, 2002 11:06 AM Depression, Mind, Rudraksha Dear Aspirants, A couple people lately have desired to know which rudraksha and by what other spiritual means they can strengthen the mind and raise their spirits. This is a great question and really is at the very center of our rudraksha discipline whatever it may be. For all of time mankind has sought to strenghten good characteristics and weaken bad, and also raise their spirits, through religion. While some may seek a scientif rationale for rudraksha beads actually working they need no such basis as their basis is a religious one, that is, in the truest sense of the word, that rudraksha are for turning back towards the source and creator of life - God. Rudra is God and rudraksha are the eyes of God. Merely wearing these holy items provides relief from negativity, and also raises spirits. Even rakshas, ghouls, and demons willingly follow Rudra in his wake because he raises all the spirits of all the spirits. Noone should feel too! ! weak or sinful to partake of rudraksha for those who really feel the most need and who have found this blessed tool are the luckiest of all. And to the person who found the 1 and 11 faced beads nearby they should see the link and buy them asap. Rudraksha are a sign of the times that change has come and is here to stay. After all, in the ancient sense of syncronicity, you rudraksha wearers now have a very potent sign of God's favor either on your person or on your altar. These beads are God itself. God loves you. Now you know it and can see it. There is no Western equivalent to rudraksha. Crosses and other symbols are symbols. Rudraksha are the eyes of God itself. They are not just symbols. Again there is no Western equivalent to many of the Eastern wonders. India is a very young land in scheme of world time and its land still has puissance of eternal being which may yet be eroded in another ten thousand or million years. But for now we still have sacred objects close to God's heart like rudraksha, Narmada lingas, Shree Shalagrama, Tulsi, shanks and other items which themselves are direct carriers of blessings from on high. Faces and depression. 1 faced RR beads enlighten the superconsciousness. This is inspiration. Always a good thing. 3 faced beads are a plough for digging up and overturning the samskaric nature of the mind. I suggest that while they may work quickly that one gives them a full year to ground the mind in a new level. 5 faced beads are the power of infinite correlation. For this reason they clear all karma and raise the plane of life from one level to the next. They facilitate all the other beads as well. They are the guru. The guru is highest if one has wonders or doubts then returning to 5 faced beads always is a sound choice. 7 faced beads purify all chakras and are beads of infinite light and sanctity. They no doubt weaken all stresses in structure and clear them out, but it's good to have some five faced with them to clear stresses from karmic field. 9 faced beads offer the! ! suffering soul salvation in a way that I cannot describe but one feels they can find a way back to sanctity or godliness from having these. Give them 6 months. 2 faced beads are the silent mind, and they strengthen the structure of consciousness. The effect is subtle and may not be noticed for 1 or 2 years. 4 faced beads are good for epileptics and people with mental conditions for they provide stabilty to the whole person and structure. I recommend them for helping confront fear and beating it. Noone can beat Brahma, Brahma creates Brahman consciousness, and Saraswati as his shakti is the prop of creation itself. 6 faced beads are highest form of human mentality, the mind of the artist and thinker, the mind devoted to arts. They are beads of Venus and Kartikeya, they bring good luck and soften the coarse structures like hate and prejudice. Give a few to your enemies and they will soften up to you. 8. 8 faced beads are the beads of Christ, the beads of peace, the beads that I really want to talk about for depression. I have a strand of 2, 4, 6, 8, faced beads wi! ! th a guru bead of Gauri Ganesha and they always make my mind happy. I feel that eight faced beads bring peace of mind. If one has feels down and depressed them I recommend this one particular bead above all others. 8 faced bead is Ganesha the bringer of amrita to the person. They dissolve all differences and strengthen the very feeling of peacefullness. I never really knew what peace was until I wore these beads. They are really powerful and palpable. I recommend 8, 8 faced beads with five faced beads for a truely powerful mala which can beat depression at its roots. Moreover, this strand will work very quickly and results will acrue, because Ganesha is the obstacle remover. Some may have noticed that I detailed odd and then even numbers. The reason is that odd number rudraksha plough into the mind and even numbers furrow into the environment. Remember that the mind can also be the enviroment. So the effect is subtle. But the general effect is 1,3,5,7,9 faced beads release samskara and 2,4,6,8,10 faced beads beat samskara. I think the effect is that even beads are felt more on the quality mind and odd beads are felt more in quality of life. I'm not saying this very well. Sponsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 only joking about damaging faith. you're asking me how something can be two ways at once and my answer is that that's life. not a very good answer but very accurate nonetheless. just as there is no such thing as a californian, or an indian, or a black, or a hindu, or a woman or a man, there is also no such thing as a demon or hell or god. all these things are defined individually by our own intellects and are different for everyone. there can be different kinds of each thing and so also some spirits called rakshasas may be very devoted to siva, some others may be very scared as well. the mind wants to think in simple terms and this also is part of why people are all not enlightened. things are all both very different and very similar but the mind also adds its two cents, and we know how much that buys nowadays. but my point really is that we can identify with the wholeness everywhere and the universality of life and our ability to become more free as we gain more eternality in vantage or we can see the separateness of each individual thing and feel the guilt of our actions and feel the need to be punished for perceived sins. these veiwpoints are based on ego which is a product of buddhi which is why education is the basis of individual and society. a person who is well and spiritually educated takes on the cosmic values of universal being and is more responsible and evolved. an ignoramous lives separate and for themself alone, and considers nothing but their appetites and is no better than a stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Dear Kirkji Thanks for explanation My Friend No intent to damage faith as was only asking for more clarification Thanks for takeing time to answer Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum Aum Namo Rudraya Namah Aum Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Dhanyawaad DharmaDev Arya Kirk <kirk_bernhardt <> Friday, July 26, 2002 1:02 PM Depression, Mind, Rudraksha Uh, good question, you always have to do this to me. My faith is crumbling. Uh, actually, everything is one mind. In transcendent level of consciousness we all are one being that is shared from Narayana to rakshasa, from God to legion. It is the intellect alone which is bathed in ignorance for the soul is ever free. There are no ghouls or demons, but only the identification with ghoul state and demon state. Some fragmented intellects - buddhis - have identified with bad samskaras and lost the means to be liberated. But all beings are really just one being. There is no separation, there is only the separation of the buddhi - intellect which thinks that it is separate. This is why we all are enlightened already but just don't know it. It is like this - how can one see a color unless one is that color? How can one be conscious unless one is that consciousness, how can one feel the demonic unless they are demonic? How ca! ! n one be Siva unless one is Shiva? One is everything at once but identified with the many. Through many lifetimes training the mind to hold both one and many one combined the two into the form of heaven on earth, one also brings the demonic and ghoulish to new levels as well. So this way does Shiva both run off the ghouls and ghosts and yet entrain them behind. Some fragmented intellects are yearning to evolve and can with Siva power. Some buddhis don't want to evolve because they are under the spell of ignorance - they run off. In my city many restaurants hire day workers from pools of transigent and mentally unstable people and sometimes those people hang on and make great workers and move in and up. Instead of down and out. Everything is in flux and noone knows the end result or what a beings true form really is. Just as in past lives or even just in the past we may have been millionaires or idols and yet have blown it on wall! ! street or gotten old. One should place the mind on the eternal being and there is peace enough for all. The 11 faced rudraksha is manifestation of unity into material - one within meets one without - 11. It is a faster expression of the 2 faced bead for developing the mind. Thats why negative aspects run from it. Instead of walking or taking their time to move away from the wearer. They just run like hell. Hahahahaha. Sponsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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