Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Hi How do you com upp with amethyst for Sahashra and can anyone use it for Sahashra I have read that green color( or green stones) is for Sahashra According to some - wearing stones is not a joke,they should be chosen with care David Z wrote: Dear DharmaDev Arya: The best stone to use for sahaswar would be amethyst. It is easy to get inexpensive beads. I found nice little points already set that are very inexpensive. The secondary stones would be quartz and perhaps a really neat stone called ametrine. Amethyst and Citrine are actually quartz. There is just a slight difference in the molecular structure between clear and the purple amethyst and the gold citrine. Sometimes you find a stone that has the coloring of both the gold and purple blended to gether and that is called ametrine. I have difficulty wearing it. it gets me too "fired up". Anyway Citirine is the stone for the Guru would be nice. The stone is beautiful. I don't think you would have to wear the gems in a head mala. I think just wearing them around neck would help. Let me know if you have difficulty finding anything and what in particulr you were envisioning . I as I do have some nice pieces on hand. I could sent them off to you. I really like that little Gems and Rudraksha book you sent. Seems to have different info from Rudraksha Ratna book. Blessings! Kanti Om Namah Shivaya In a message dated 6/10/2002 12:37:56 AM Central Daylight Time, shininglotus writes: > Dear Kantiji > > Thanks for this as is really perfect > > Then what would be the choice of Gem Stones to be worn on the head for the > Sahasrara Chakra > > Thanks > > DharmaDev Arya > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Namaste: As was mentioned in Message #81, there are variations in the way that gems are used with chakras between Vedic and Western Gem therapies. As I said then, I don't think these differences are particularily contradictory, but are differences of culture and perspective and when we enter into these subtle realms we need to be very cautious not to try and box and confine these realities into linear catagories. Modern Western Gem therapy as its roots in The Egyptian Mystery schools as wel as within the branches of Healing based on the Jewish Mystical Tradition of Kabbala as well as the Pythagorean Healing philosphies of Ancient Greece. Modern physical sciences Look at light and color (which is what Gem therapy encompasses) as wavelengths, vibrations and energy. Today's scientists have proven that each color of the spectrum has it own wavelength and vibratory rate. It would be if you had the color spectrum placed on a pyramid. The bottom would be red. The wavelengths are longer. At the top would be violet, the wavelengths shorter and the colors vibrate more quickly. So, if you would then superimpose the human body onto the pyramid..Red would interface with muladhar and violet with sahasrara. As with any power, the use of gems and rudrakshas indeed should be treated with respect. I personally in the 20 years that I have used gems for myself as well as with clients for meditation aids have never had any dangerous or unpleasant results. I took the time to consult with two colleagues who also have many years experience in this field and they too, have not had any incident to cause alarm. They have had similar experiences to what I have felt and that is if one can feel that they are being over-stimulated by a gem and if that is the case, you take it off of your body. These sensations will be a feeling of agitation or being ungrounded and goes away very quickly once gem is removed from the body. As one friend put it who also does very deep cranial-sacral therapy,"It is like being near a stove, you know you are getting too close to the fire because you can feel the heat. Even a child knows if you feel the heat and get too close you will get burned. In the case of rudraksha therapy, it has been my understanding in reading the literature and the scriptures that it is the nature of the rudrakshas themselves to integrate with the subtle body and with the kundalini in such a way that is balanced and protected, so one may wear with confidence that there will not be any disharmonious reactions. In fact, with the rudrakshas interactions with the neuro-transmitters of the brain, this in turn balances the nervous system so that there are no harsh "Kundalini experiences". The qualities of amethyst itself are that of transmutation and so work in harmony with the power of the rudrakshas to release densities within the system that would interfere with the flow of the kundalini and in this case assist in the harmonious opening of the sahasrara. Regarding David Z's latest sharing in message #86, this is the 1st instance I have seen in western Gem therapy of the use of Emerald or Green stones with the Sahasrar Chakra! I checked 2 references that I have and did not see that application mentioned. I do agree that the emerald or any green stone would feed and nurture any of the chakras, but for activation and enhancing the opening of Sahaswara, I don't know how effective it would be. Emerald would definately stabalize the Kundalini, but there is also a quality of the amethyst that would do the same. There is a very interesting reference, however in the Vedic Scripture, "Shat Chakra Nirupana" which is like a guided tour of the chakras to the abode of Brahma within the Thousand Petal Lotus. This is described in verses 49-51 of the text. It is said than when this portion of the Sahaswar is opened by the Kundalini, the Yoga will hear the spontaneous repetition of the mahamantra, "Hamsa". Since emerald and the green stones are the stones of Lord Brahma, then I would offer that it would by all means be advised to use emerald for any one who experiences this phenomena or who is using this mantra. But for a general recommendation for a basic gemstone for the development of the sahaswar, I have to stay with my original statement and I hope this message brings more clarity as to why. I do know that Dharma Deva Aryaji has been using sphatik crystal with an 11mukhi head mala. Since 11 mukhi is the Light Mass of Lord Rudra, I would support using clear sphatik instead of the amethyst with this mukhi. In fact quartz crystal is good for all chakras. Sphatik especially has that wonderful quality of being the dwelling place of Shiva/Shakti in union and of course this is the ultimate journey for all of us ..to have Maha Ma Kundalini come to dwell forever in the Sahaswar. Sphatik also has that wonderful cooling quality that would be very helpful if an intensity of energy is experienced. So I offer this in the Light & Grace of Shri Saraswati, the Devi of all Knowledge & Wisdom. Om Eim Saraswatyei Swaha Kanti In a message dated 6/10/2002 1:44:00 PM Central Daylight Time, sivaya writes: > Hi > > > How do you com upp with amethyst for Sahashra and can anyone use it for > Sahashra > > > I have read that green color( or green stones) is for Sahashra > > > According to some - wearing stones is not a joke,they should be chosen with > care > > > David Z > > > wrote: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Dear Kantiji This is really an immense amount of Knowledge and am thanking you a great deal for this. Am going to send a copy to Rudra Centre India and would like to know if it would be OK for me to ask Miss Neeta if she could place this on the website where we are averageing about 100 visits per day Would that be OK with you Dhanyawaad aur Pranams Mitra DharmaDev Arya thunderheals <thunderheals <> Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:41 AM Re: Gem for Sahashra Namaste: As was mentioned in Message #81, there are variations in the way that gems are used with chakras between Vedic and Western Gem therapies. As I said then, I don't think these differences are particularily contradictory, but are differences of culture and perspective and when we enter into these subtle realms we need to be very cautious not to try and box and confine these realities into linear catagories. Modern Western Gem therapy as its roots in The Egyptian Mystery schools as wel as within the branches of Healing based on the Jewish Mystical Tradition of Kabbala as well as the Pythagorean Healing philosphies of Ancient Greece. Modern physical sciences Look at light and color (which is what Gem therapy encompasses) as wavelengths, vibrations and energy. Today's scientists have proven that each color of the spectrum has it own wavelength and vibratory rate. It would be if you had the color spectrum placed on a pyramid. The bottom would be red. The wavelengths are longer. At the top would be violet, the wavelengths shorter and the colors vibrate more quickly. So, if you would then superimpose the human body onto the pyramid..Red would interface with muladhar and violet with sahasrara. As with any power, the use of gems and rudrakshas indeed should be treated with respect. I personally in the 20 years that I have used gems for myself as well as with clients for meditation aids have never had any dangerous or unpleasant results. I took the time to consult with two colleagues who also have many years experience in this field and they too, have not had any incident to cause alarm. They have had similar experiences to what I have felt and that is if one can feel that they are being over-stimulated by a gem and if that is the case, you take it off of your body. These sensations will be a feeling of agitation or being ungrounded and goes away very quickly once gem is removed from the body. As one friend put it who also does very deep cranial-sacral therapy,"It is like being near a stove, you know you are getting too close to the fire because you can feel the heat. Even a child knows if you feel the heat and get too close you will get burned. In the case of rudraksha therapy, it has been my understanding in reading the literature and the scriptures that it is the nature of the rudrakshas themselves to integrate with the subtle body and with the kundalini in such a way that is balanced and protected, so one may wear with confidence that there will not be any disharmonious reactions. In fact, with the rudrakshas interactions with the neuro-transmitters of the brain, this in turn balances the nervous system so that there are no harsh "Kundalini experiences". The qualities of amethyst itself are that of transmutation and so work in harmony with the power of the rudrakshas to release densities within the system that would interfere with the flow of the kundalini and in this case assist in the harmonious opening of the sahasrara. Regarding David Z's latest sharing in message #86, this is the 1st instance I have seen in western Gem therapy of the use of Emerald or Green stones with the Sahasrar Chakra! I checked 2 references that I have and did not see that application mentioned. I do agree that the emerald or any green stone would feed and nurture any of the chakras, but for activation and enhancing the opening of Sahaswara, I don't know how effective it would be. Emerald would definately stabalize the Kundalini, but there is also a quality of the amethyst that would do the same. There is a very interesting reference, however in the Vedic Scripture, "Shat Chakra Nirupana" which is like a guided tour of the chakras to the abode of Brahma within the Thousand Petal Lotus. This is described in verses 49-51 of the text. It is said than when this portion of the Sahaswar is opened by the Kundalini, the Yoga will hear the spontaneous repetition of the mahamantra, "Hamsa". Since emerald and the green stones are the stones of Lord Brahma, then I would offer that it would by all means be advised to use emerald for any one who experiences this phenomena or who is using this mantra. But for a general recommendation for a basic gemstone for the development of the sahaswar, I have to stay with my original statement and I hope this message brings more clarity as to why. I do know that Dharma Deva Aryaji has been using sphatik crystal with an 11mukhi head mala. Since 11 mukhi is the Light Mass of Lord Rudra, I would support using clear sphatik instead of the amethyst with this mukhi. In fact quartz crystal is good for all chakras. Sphatik especially has that wonderful quality of being the dwelling place of Shiva/Shakti in union and of course this is the ultimate journey for all of us ..to have Maha Ma Kundalini come to dwell forever in the Sahaswar. Sphatik also has that wonderful cooling quality that would be very helpful if an intensity of energy is experienced. So I offer this in the Light & Grace of Shri Saraswati, the Devi of all Knowledge & Wisdom. Om Eim Saraswatyei Swaha Kanti In a message dated 6/10/2002 1:44:00 PM Central Daylight Time, sivaya writes: > Hi > > > How do you com upp with amethyst for Sahashra and can anyone use it for > Sahashra > > > I have read that green color( or green stones) is for Sahashra > > > According to some - wearing stones is not a joke,they should be chosen with > care > > > David Z > > > wrote: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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