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I'm glad you asked this question and I do have an answer. I don't know how

logical it is but submitted for your approval. One faced rudraksha is the sun,

eleven is the internal polar cycle of the sun. This is fact, each year for

eleven years the sun'spolarity changes from its north to south and back. The

major sunflare activity takes place during the middle years of the cycle. The

11 faced bead is like the combined solar effect of the sun's cycles all at once

and so a balanced expression and wearable quality of that energy. Also, the 10

mukhi bead is for space, and 12 mukhi is the sun through all 12 rashis or

houses. Each of these space and solar related beads - 1, 10, 11, 12, is an

aspect of space and sun and constellational virtue for our personal

neurophysiological enviroment improvement. About enviroment, our body is the

closest enviroment to us. Wearing rudraksha is adding an enviromental factor to

our closest sphere of influence. Wearing 1, 10, 11, 12 faced beads stabilizes

our auric sphere by generating energies of concentration (1) of spreading

consciousness (10) of consistency of attention (11) and of at-one-ment (12).

Someone once said at-one-ment = atonement. This is a jumble of ideas submitted

......for your approval

kantikakini vvvvvvvvvvvcvvcvccv

Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:45 PM

another 11 Mukhi Question

 

 

The 11 Mukhi is described as the Light Mass of Lord Rudra?

 

What exactly is the Light Mass of Lord Rudra?

 

Is it the 11 Rudras & if so where can one find out more about them?

 

Is it reference to the protecting power ?

 

Is this an experience in meditation?

 

Or all of the above ??

 

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Namaste

 

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Dear Kirkji

 

There is no way in the world I can do better than this explanation

 

Can honestly say you continually amaze me with your Knowledge and am constantly

finding myself saying how in the world do you know all this

 

Look forward to many more messages like this

 

Aum Namo Bhagavate Rudraya Namaha

 

Thanks and Take Care Mitra

 

DharmaDev Arya

Kirk <kirk_bernhardt

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Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:55 PM

Re: another 11 Mukhi Question

 

 

Additionally, the titles of 8, 11, 12 faced beads are derived from Rig Veda.

8 faced beads are the Vasus, 11 are the Rudras, and 12 are the Adityas. 8 faced

beads are the gayatri, 11 faced are the trishtub, and 12 are the jagati meters.

-

Kirk

Saturday, May 25, 2002 8:21 PM

Re: another 11 Mukhi Question

 

 

I'm glad you asked this question and I do have an answer. I don't know

how logical it is but submitted for your approval. One faced rudraksha is the

sun, eleven is the internal polar cycle of the sun. This is fact, each year for

eleven years the sun'spolarity changes from its north to south and back. The

major sunflare activity takes place during the middle years of the cycle. The

11 faced bead is like the combined solar effect of the sun's cycles all at once

and so a balanced expression and wearable quality of that energy. Also, the 10

mukhi bead is for space, and 12 mukhi is the sun through all 12 rashis or

houses. Each of these space and solar related beads - 1, 10, 11, 12, is an

aspect of space and sun and constellational virtue for our personal

neurophysiological enviroment improvement. About enviroment, our body is the

closest enviroment to us. Wearing rudraksha is adding an enviromental factor to

our closest sphere ! ! of influence. Wearing 1, 10, 11, 12 faced beads

stabilizes our auric sphere by generating energies of concentration (1) of

spreading consciousness (10) of consistency of attention (11) and of at-one-ment

(12). Someone once said at-one-ment = atonement. This is a jumble of ideas

submitted .....for your approval

kantikakini vvvvvvvvvvvcvvcvccv

Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:45 PM

another 11 Mukhi Question

 

 

The 11 Mukhi is described as the Light Mass of Lord Rudra?

 

What exactly is the Light Mass of Lord Rudra?

 

Is it the 11 Rudras & if so where can one find out more about them?

 

Is it reference to the protecting power ?

 

Is this an experience in meditation?

 

Or all of the above ??

 

Thank You

 

Namaste

 

Kanti

 

 

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Dear Kirkji

 

OK I have an enquireing mind so will ask

 

Regarding

 

One can only wear these if one has gotten major portion of sinful nature under

control otherwise it will be thoroughly shown to mind

One cannot sin forever now can one? At some point one must atone.

 

 

 

 

Maybe not understanding context here however

 

References state the wearing of Rudraksa removes all sin and suffering. That

is one of the main reasons and purposes we recommend all different Rudraksa to

the Mankind

 

 

Rudrakshas might remove samskaras from physiology but they don't force ones

moral choices which person is still responsible for. What is the point of

rudraksha and wearing if one kills ones guru and sleeps with his wife?

 

 

Srimaddevibhagavat also states

 

Person wearing Rudraksa is not....... affected...... by any sins due from

various deeds

 

Ruleing Diety of eleven mukhi Rudraksa is Rudra himself. Indra is also said to

be its ruleing diety. It always renders happiness and pleasure

 

 

 

Rudraksajabalopanisad state

 

On wearing it..... removes....... the sins committed during day and night. It

gives one lakh fold merits on seeing and one crore fold merits on wearing

 

A Rudraksa with eleven faces is virtually Ekadasa Rudradeva. It is responsible

for good fortunes

 

In regards to these references I dont understand statement made

 

may amplify negativity in hostile situations

 

Personally I would never be without the Lord Hanuman Rudraksa on the field of

battle where individuals in armies were physically destroying one another

 

Watch yourself amplify that battlefield situation when you destroy the enemy.

Even in smaller non threatening life situations you may find a tendency to see

the negative more frankly and may want to destroy it.

 

 

 

Also dont understand Rudras are wrathful aspects of God so could you please

explain this

 

The rudras are bow weilding devas in Yajur Veda. They are rsponsible for

shooting down the unjust. Propitiation is made to them for mercy and for

justice.

 

 

 

 

Then need to know more about one of last statements as have no knowledge

regarding this, have not found this in references and this is the first time I

have heard this

 

When one wears Rudraksa in general one is offereing oneself to them and

oneself is also the goal of the sacrifice

 

Why would someone offer themselves to the Rudraksa

 

As when a Christian takes the sacrament one is taking something into the body

but one is offering oneself up to the experience. Just as when wedding the

spouse one is taking someone on one also is offering themselves in union.

Purusha sukta is from 10th mandala rig veda and describes the whole of existence

as purusha being sacrificed back to purusha for growth of purusha. Likewise

wearing rudraksha is taking help of rudra and offering oneself to rudra.

Superstitious people may get frightened but Rudra is just a name for God. This

is not a scientific thing like Transcendental Meditation, which is devoid of

religious content (sic), but rather it is a religious thing which may have

scientific merit someday. Nonetheless, for any positive spiritual growth one

must surrender the ego and that is making an offering.

 

 

 

 

Thanks Mitra

 

DharmaDeva Arya

Kirk <kirk_bernhardt

<>

Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:47 PM

Re: another 11 Mukhi Question

 

 

Thank you, also on subject, eleven rudras are propitiated through chanting

Sri Rudram and doing Abhisheka on Lingam. Namakam and chamakam of Rudram are

from chapter four of Yajur Veda the only place in all of vedas where God is

honored in all ways as Rudra or Siva. The wearing of the eleven faced bead is in

my opinion similar to the propitiation of the linga through Rudrabhisheka, it

bestows all virtues upon one. One can only wear these if one has gotten major

portion of sinful nature under control otherwise it will be thoroughly shown to

mind. They also bring light to enviroment and so may amplify negativity in

hostile situations. They therefore should be worn for and during meditation

when mind is at peace. Rudras are wrathful aspects of God. They need to be

propitiated so one may do abhiskheka on 11 faced beads with milk and flowers and

sing their praise to control their temperment. For this reason the lingam is

always cooled with water and sweet thi! ! ngs and flowers and also why Purusha

Suktam is read during Rudram. Purusha suktam describes purusha as the offering

and the offerer. When one wears rudraksha in general one is offering oneself to

them and oneself is also the goal of the sacrifice.

 

11 in numerology is the master builder number of the teacher. The person

who illuminates.

-

ShiningLotus

Saturday, May 25, 2002 9:28 PM

Re: another 11 Mukhi Question

 

 

Dear Kirkji

 

There is no way in the world I can do better than this explanation

 

Can honestly say you continually amaze me with your Knowledge and am

constantly finding myself saying how in the world do you know all this

 

Look forward to many more messages like this

 

Aum Namo Bhagavate Rudraya Namaha

 

Thanks and Take Care Mitra

 

DharmaDev Arya

Kirk <kirk_bernhardt

<>

Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:55 PM

Re: another 11 Mukhi

Question

 

 

Additionally, the titles of 8, 11, 12 faced beads are derived from

Rig Veda. 8 faced beads are the Vasus, 11 are the Rudras, and 12 are the

Adityas. 8 faced beads are the gayatri, 11 faced are the trishtub, and 12 are

the jagati meters.

-

Kirk

Saturday, May 25, 2002 8:21 PM

Re: another 11 Mukhi

Question

 

 

I'm glad you asked this question and I do have an answer. I don't

know how logical it is but submitted for your approval. One faced rudraksha is

the sun, eleven is the internal polar cycle of the sun. This is fact, each year

for eleven years the sun'spolarity changes from its north to south and back.

The major sunflare activity takes place during the middle years of the cycle.

The 11 faced bead is like the combined solar effect of the sun's cycles all at

once and so a balanced expression and wearable quality of that energy. Also,

the 10 mukhi bead is for space, and 12 mukhi is the sun through all 12 rashis or

houses. Each of these space and solar related beads - 1, 10, 11, 12, is an

aspect of space and sun and constellational virtue for our personal

neurophysiological enviroment improvement. About enviroment, our body is the

closest enviroment to us. Wearing rudraksha is adding an enviro! ! mental

factor to our closest sphere ! ! of influence. Wearing 1, 10, 11, 12 faced

beads stabilizes our auric sphere by generating energies of concentration (1) of

spreading consciousness (10) of consistency of attention (11) and of at-one-ment

(12). Someone once said at-one-ment = atonement. This is a jumble of ideas

submitted .....for your approval

kantikakini vvvvvvvvvvvcvvcvccv

Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:45 PM

another 11 Mukhi

Question

 

 

The 11 Mukhi is described as the Light Mass of Lord Rudra?

 

What exactly is the Light Mass of Lord Rudra?

 

Is it the 11 Rudras & if so where can one find out more about

them?

 

Is it reference to the protecting power ?

 

Is this an experience in meditation?

 

Or all of the above ??

 

Thank You

 

Namaste

 

Kanti

 

 

Sponsor

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Service.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Kirkji

 

These are great clarifications Thanks

 

I do agree with this clarified sentence

 

Watch yourself amplify that battlefield situation when you destroy the enemy

 

Noticed that I had a reaction and did not agree with prior sentence that said

 

may amplify negativity in hostile situations.

 

Is understood we all know that sometimes destruction is not negative. Reaction

was due to my never experiencing amplification of negativity in the conflicts I

have experienced while liveing with the Rudraksa. In my experiences of psychic

battle with the Rudraksa and Mantras they are built and applied with intent and

purpose from a level of Samadhi and rise in a giant tidal wave of Light that

destroys the ignorance and darkness that has been identified as causeing

suffereing and pain and being threatening to Life and Evolution on all Levels.

This type of destruction is not a negative action and I have always without

exception experienced an intense amplification on Positive Energy that actually

consumes negative energy and grows stronger and stronger till the negative no

longer exists. Is like walking into dark room and intentionally switching on

Light

 

Example is that the enemy is not necessarily the physical person and that it is

not always necessary to physically destroy an angry disatisfied enemy. If you

are able in some way to make a percieved enemy experience total happiness on the

battlefield they lose their need to carry out orders of superiors who are trying

to control them to kill others they dont even know much less want to destroy

 

Aum Namo Hanumate Rudra Avataraya

Parayentra Sarva Karya Siddhi Pradaya

Sri Rama Dutaya Swaha

 

Aum Namo Hanumate Rudra Avataraya

Parayentra Mantra Tantra Trataka Nashakaya

Sri Rama Dutaya Swaha

 

Yes Lord Hanuman was the greatest Siddha that ever existed and yes on the

battlefield this Rudraksa and Lord Hanuman Siddhi Mantras will definitly amplify

the situation with positive Light Energy to destroy the intent and purpose of

the opposeing enemy

 

Is my opinion that all Ksatriya Warriors and Soldiers of India who are on front

lines today would have intense advantage over enemy if they are wearing the Lord

Ganesha and Lord Hanuman Rudraksa and are working with Mantra Discipline

combining DharmaYudda and PrakasaYuddha and MantraYudda in the same Light

 

The Kali Yuga has shown itself not to be an age of Ahimsa and Destruction of an

Enemy that is threatening a persons family and communities evolution and

spiritual path is not necessarily negative

 

Sometimes is necessary to follow the example of Lord Rama calling the Missles

and Arjuna on the Battlefield

 

and yes agree on wearer being extremely sensitive to negativity and injustice in

non life threatening situations and feeling need to destroy this pain and

suffereing and at same time has the Knowledge of how to pick the battle that

will insure positive outcome and not let battle or the negativity control them.

11 Mukhi Rudraksa is perfect for Self Empowerment and Fearless Life

 

Is seen that person who wears 11 Mukhi Rudraksa is extremely aware of injustice

and ignorance on all levels. In addition to this if a responsible decision is

made to act on this knowledge to correct problem and bring environment back into

balance then wearer is able to Accomplish resolution through Lord Hanuman

learning, virtues, cleverness and wisdom

 

Thanks for great clarification My Friend

 

Welcomeing any and all criticism and comments of anything said here

 

Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum

 

DharmaDev Arya

 

 

Ramaswamy, Arun <ARamaswamy

 

<>

Sunday, May 26, 2002 4:14 AM

RE: another 11 Mukhi Question

 

 

Can Mr Kirk kindly explain the significance and the benefits of wearing each

one of the type of Rudrakshi beads, and much many of them must be worn etc.

I need to understand the practical benefits of the rudrakshis better.

what is the significance of the 1 mukhi, the 2 mukhi etc etc till the 11th

or the 19th mukhi etc...what do all of these stand for. I am totally

ignorant of these but would really appreciate an explanation

 

thanks

Arun

 

 

Kirk [kirk_bernhardt]

Sunday, May 26, 2002 2:44 PM

 

Re: another 11 Mukhi Question

 

 

 

 

Dear Kirkji

 

OK I have an enquireing mind so will ask

 

Regarding

 

One can only wear these if one has gotten major portion of sinful nature

under control otherwise it will be thoroughly shown to mind

One cannot sin forever now can one? At some point one must atone.

 

 

 

 

Maybe not understanding context here however

 

References state the wearing of Rudraksa removes all sin and suffering.

That is one of the main reasons and purposes we recommend all different

Rudraksa to the Mankind

 

 

Rudrakshas might remove samskaras from physiology but they don't force

ones moral choices which person is still responsible for. What is the point

of rudraksha and wearing if one kills ones guru and sleeps with his wife?

 

 

Srimaddevibhagavat also states

 

Person wearing Rudraksa is not....... affected...... by any sins due from

various deeds

 

Ruleing Diety of eleven mukhi Rudraksa is Rudra himself. Indra is also

said to be its ruleing diety. It always renders happiness and pleasure

 

 

 

Rudraksajabalopanisad state

 

On wearing it..... removes....... the sins committed during day and night.

It gives one lakh fold merits on seeing and one crore fold merits on wearing

 

A Rudraksa with eleven faces is virtually Ekadasa Rudradeva. It is

responsible for good fortunes

 

In regards to these references I dont understand statement made

 

may amplify negativity in hostile situations

 

Personally I would never be without the Lord Hanuman Rudraksa on the field

of battle where individuals in armies were physically destroying one another

 

Watch yourself amplify that battlefield situation when you destroy the

enemy. Even in smaller non threatening life situations you may find a

tendency to see the negative more frankly and may want to destroy it.

 

 

 

Also dont understand Rudras are wrathful aspects of God so could you

please explain this

 

The rudras are bow weilding devas in Yajur Veda. They are rsponsible for

shooting down the unjust. Propitiation is made to them for mercy and for

justice.

 

 

 

 

Then need to know more about one of last statements as have no knowledge

regarding this, have not found this in references and this is the first time

I have heard this

 

When one wears Rudraksa in general one is offereing oneself to them and

oneself is also the goal of the sacrifice

 

Why would someone offer themselves to the Rudraksa

 

As when a Christian takes the sacrament one is taking something into the

body but one is offering oneself up to the experience. Just as when wedding

the spouse one is taking someone on one also is offering themselves in

union. Purusha sukta is from 10th mandala rig veda and describes the whole

of existence as purusha being sacrificed back to purusha for growth of

purusha. Likewise wearing rudraksha is taking help of rudra and offering

oneself to rudra. Superstitious people may get frightened but Rudra is just

a name for God. This is not a scientific thing like Transcendental

Meditation, which is devoid of religious content (sic), but rather it is a

religious thing which may have scientific merit someday. Nonetheless, for

any positive spiritual growth one must surrender the ego and that is making

an offering.

 

 

 

 

Thanks Mitra

 

DharmaDeva Arya

Kirk <kirk_bernhardt

<>

Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:47 PM

Re: another 11 Mukhi Question

 

 

Thank you, also on subject, eleven rudras are propitiated through

chanting Sri Rudram and doing Abhisheka on Lingam. Namakam and chamakam of

Rudram are from chapter four of Yajur Veda the only place in all of vedas

where God is honored in all ways as Rudra or Siva. The wearing of the eleven

faced bead is in my opinion similar to the propitiation of the linga through

Rudrabhisheka, it bestows all virtues upon one. One can only wear these if

one has gotten major portion of sinful nature under control otherwise it

will be thoroughly shown to mind. They also bring light to enviroment and so

may amplify negativity in hostile situations. They therefore should be worn

for and during meditation when mind is at peace. Rudras are wrathful

aspects of God. They need to be propitiated so one may do abhiskheka on 11

faced beads with milk and flowers and sing their praise to control their

temperment. For this reason the lingam is always cooled with water and sweet

thi! ! ngs and !

flowers and also why Purusha Suktam is read during Rudram. Purusha suktam

describes purusha as the offering and the offerer. When one wears rudraksha

in general one is offering oneself to them and oneself is also the goal of

the sacrifice.

 

11 in numerology is the master builder number of the teacher. The

person who illuminates.

-

ShiningLotus

Saturday, May 25, 2002 9:28 PM

Re: another 11 Mukhi

Question

 

 

Dear Kirkji

 

There is no way in the world I can do better than this explanation

 

Can honestly say you continually amaze me with your Knowledge and am

constantly finding myself saying how in the world do you know all this

 

Look forward to many more messages like this

 

Aum Namo Bhagavate Rudraya Namaha

 

Thanks and Take Care Mitra

 

DharmaDev Arya

Kirk <kirk_bernhardt

<>

Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:55 PM

Re: another 11 Mukhi

Question

 

 

Additionally, the titles of 8, 11, 12 faced beads are derived

from Rig Veda. 8 faced beads are the Vasus, 11 are the Rudras, and 12 are

the Adityas. 8 faced beads are the gayatri, 11 faced are the trishtub, and

12 are the jagati meters.

-

Kirk

Saturday, May 25, 2002 8:21 PM

Re: another 11 Mukhi

Question

 

 

I'm glad you asked this question and I do have an answer. I

don't know how logical it is but submitted for your approval. One faced

rudraksha is the sun, eleven is the internal polar cycle of the sun. This

is fact, each year for eleven years the sun'spolarity changes from its

north to south and back. The major sunflare activity takes place during the

middle years of the cycle. The 11 faced bead is like the combined solar

effect of the sun's cycles all at once and so a balanced expression and

wearable quality of that energy. Also, the 10 mukhi bead is for space, and

12 mukhi is the sun through all 12 rashis or houses. Each of these space

and solar related beads - 1, 10, 11, 12, is an aspect of space and sun and

constellational virtue for our personal neurophysiological enviroment

improvement. About enviroment, our body is the closest enviroment to us.

Wearing rudraksha is adding an enviro! ! mental factor to our closest sphere

! ! of influence. Wearing !

1, 10, 11, 12 faced beads stabilizes our auric sphere by generating

energies of concentration (1) of spreading consciousness (10) of consistency

of attention (11) and of at-one-ment (12). Someone once said at-one-ment =

atonement. This is a jumble of ideas submitted .....for your approval

kantikakini vvvvvvvvvvvcvvcvccv

 

Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:45 PM

another 11 Mukhi

Question

 

 

The 11 Mukhi is described as the Light Mass of Lord Rudra?

 

What exactly is the Light Mass of Lord Rudra?

 

Is it the 11 Rudras & if so where can one find out more

about them?

 

Is it reference to the protecting power ?

 

Is this an experience in meditation?

 

Or all of the above ??

 

Thank You

 

Namaste

 

Kanti

 

 

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