Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 I'm glad you asked this question and I do have an answer. I don't know how logical it is but submitted for your approval. One faced rudraksha is the sun, eleven is the internal polar cycle of the sun. This is fact, each year for eleven years the sun'spolarity changes from its north to south and back. The major sunflare activity takes place during the middle years of the cycle. The 11 faced bead is like the combined solar effect of the sun's cycles all at once and so a balanced expression and wearable quality of that energy. Also, the 10 mukhi bead is for space, and 12 mukhi is the sun through all 12 rashis or houses. Each of these space and solar related beads - 1, 10, 11, 12, is an aspect of space and sun and constellational virtue for our personal neurophysiological enviroment improvement. About enviroment, our body is the closest enviroment to us. Wearing rudraksha is adding an enviromental factor to our closest sphere of influence. Wearing 1, 10, 11, 12 faced beads stabilizes our auric sphere by generating energies of concentration (1) of spreading consciousness (10) of consistency of attention (11) and of at-one-ment (12). Someone once said at-one-ment = atonement. This is a jumble of ideas submitted ......for your approval kantikakini vvvvvvvvvvvcvvcvccv Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:45 PM another 11 Mukhi Question The 11 Mukhi is described as the Light Mass of Lord Rudra? What exactly is the Light Mass of Lord Rudra? Is it the 11 Rudras & if so where can one find out more about them? Is it reference to the protecting power ? Is this an experience in meditation? Or all of the above ?? Thank You Namaste Kanti Sponsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Dear Kirkji There is no way in the world I can do better than this explanation Can honestly say you continually amaze me with your Knowledge and am constantly finding myself saying how in the world do you know all this Look forward to many more messages like this Aum Namo Bhagavate Rudraya Namaha Thanks and Take Care Mitra DharmaDev Arya Kirk <kirk_bernhardt <> Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:55 PM Re: another 11 Mukhi Question Additionally, the titles of 8, 11, 12 faced beads are derived from Rig Veda. 8 faced beads are the Vasus, 11 are the Rudras, and 12 are the Adityas. 8 faced beads are the gayatri, 11 faced are the trishtub, and 12 are the jagati meters. - Kirk Saturday, May 25, 2002 8:21 PM Re: another 11 Mukhi Question I'm glad you asked this question and I do have an answer. I don't know how logical it is but submitted for your approval. One faced rudraksha is the sun, eleven is the internal polar cycle of the sun. This is fact, each year for eleven years the sun'spolarity changes from its north to south and back. The major sunflare activity takes place during the middle years of the cycle. The 11 faced bead is like the combined solar effect of the sun's cycles all at once and so a balanced expression and wearable quality of that energy. Also, the 10 mukhi bead is for space, and 12 mukhi is the sun through all 12 rashis or houses. Each of these space and solar related beads - 1, 10, 11, 12, is an aspect of space and sun and constellational virtue for our personal neurophysiological enviroment improvement. About enviroment, our body is the closest enviroment to us. Wearing rudraksha is adding an enviromental factor to our closest sphere ! ! of influence. Wearing 1, 10, 11, 12 faced beads stabilizes our auric sphere by generating energies of concentration (1) of spreading consciousness (10) of consistency of attention (11) and of at-one-ment (12). Someone once said at-one-ment = atonement. This is a jumble of ideas submitted .....for your approval kantikakini vvvvvvvvvvvcvvcvccv Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:45 PM another 11 Mukhi Question The 11 Mukhi is described as the Light Mass of Lord Rudra? What exactly is the Light Mass of Lord Rudra? Is it the 11 Rudras & if so where can one find out more about them? Is it reference to the protecting power ? Is this an experience in meditation? Or all of the above ?? Thank You Namaste Kanti Sponsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Dear Kirkji OK I have an enquireing mind so will ask Regarding One can only wear these if one has gotten major portion of sinful nature under control otherwise it will be thoroughly shown to mind One cannot sin forever now can one? At some point one must atone. Maybe not understanding context here however References state the wearing of Rudraksa removes all sin and suffering. That is one of the main reasons and purposes we recommend all different Rudraksa to the Mankind Rudrakshas might remove samskaras from physiology but they don't force ones moral choices which person is still responsible for. What is the point of rudraksha and wearing if one kills ones guru and sleeps with his wife? Srimaddevibhagavat also states Person wearing Rudraksa is not....... affected...... by any sins due from various deeds Ruleing Diety of eleven mukhi Rudraksa is Rudra himself. Indra is also said to be its ruleing diety. It always renders happiness and pleasure Rudraksajabalopanisad state On wearing it..... removes....... the sins committed during day and night. It gives one lakh fold merits on seeing and one crore fold merits on wearing A Rudraksa with eleven faces is virtually Ekadasa Rudradeva. It is responsible for good fortunes In regards to these references I dont understand statement made may amplify negativity in hostile situations Personally I would never be without the Lord Hanuman Rudraksa on the field of battle where individuals in armies were physically destroying one another Watch yourself amplify that battlefield situation when you destroy the enemy. Even in smaller non threatening life situations you may find a tendency to see the negative more frankly and may want to destroy it. Also dont understand Rudras are wrathful aspects of God so could you please explain this The rudras are bow weilding devas in Yajur Veda. They are rsponsible for shooting down the unjust. Propitiation is made to them for mercy and for justice. Then need to know more about one of last statements as have no knowledge regarding this, have not found this in references and this is the first time I have heard this When one wears Rudraksa in general one is offereing oneself to them and oneself is also the goal of the sacrifice Why would someone offer themselves to the Rudraksa As when a Christian takes the sacrament one is taking something into the body but one is offering oneself up to the experience. Just as when wedding the spouse one is taking someone on one also is offering themselves in union. Purusha sukta is from 10th mandala rig veda and describes the whole of existence as purusha being sacrificed back to purusha for growth of purusha. Likewise wearing rudraksha is taking help of rudra and offering oneself to rudra. Superstitious people may get frightened but Rudra is just a name for God. This is not a scientific thing like Transcendental Meditation, which is devoid of religious content (sic), but rather it is a religious thing which may have scientific merit someday. Nonetheless, for any positive spiritual growth one must surrender the ego and that is making an offering. Thanks Mitra DharmaDeva Arya Kirk <kirk_bernhardt <> Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:47 PM Re: another 11 Mukhi Question Thank you, also on subject, eleven rudras are propitiated through chanting Sri Rudram and doing Abhisheka on Lingam. Namakam and chamakam of Rudram are from chapter four of Yajur Veda the only place in all of vedas where God is honored in all ways as Rudra or Siva. The wearing of the eleven faced bead is in my opinion similar to the propitiation of the linga through Rudrabhisheka, it bestows all virtues upon one. One can only wear these if one has gotten major portion of sinful nature under control otherwise it will be thoroughly shown to mind. They also bring light to enviroment and so may amplify negativity in hostile situations. They therefore should be worn for and during meditation when mind is at peace. Rudras are wrathful aspects of God. They need to be propitiated so one may do abhiskheka on 11 faced beads with milk and flowers and sing their praise to control their temperment. For this reason the lingam is always cooled with water and sweet thi! ! ngs and flowers and also why Purusha Suktam is read during Rudram. Purusha suktam describes purusha as the offering and the offerer. When one wears rudraksha in general one is offering oneself to them and oneself is also the goal of the sacrifice. 11 in numerology is the master builder number of the teacher. The person who illuminates. - ShiningLotus Saturday, May 25, 2002 9:28 PM Re: another 11 Mukhi Question Dear Kirkji There is no way in the world I can do better than this explanation Can honestly say you continually amaze me with your Knowledge and am constantly finding myself saying how in the world do you know all this Look forward to many more messages like this Aum Namo Bhagavate Rudraya Namaha Thanks and Take Care Mitra DharmaDev Arya Kirk <kirk_bernhardt <> Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:55 PM Re: another 11 Mukhi Question Additionally, the titles of 8, 11, 12 faced beads are derived from Rig Veda. 8 faced beads are the Vasus, 11 are the Rudras, and 12 are the Adityas. 8 faced beads are the gayatri, 11 faced are the trishtub, and 12 are the jagati meters. - Kirk Saturday, May 25, 2002 8:21 PM Re: another 11 Mukhi Question I'm glad you asked this question and I do have an answer. I don't know how logical it is but submitted for your approval. One faced rudraksha is the sun, eleven is the internal polar cycle of the sun. This is fact, each year for eleven years the sun'spolarity changes from its north to south and back. The major sunflare activity takes place during the middle years of the cycle. The 11 faced bead is like the combined solar effect of the sun's cycles all at once and so a balanced expression and wearable quality of that energy. Also, the 10 mukhi bead is for space, and 12 mukhi is the sun through all 12 rashis or houses. Each of these space and solar related beads - 1, 10, 11, 12, is an aspect of space and sun and constellational virtue for our personal neurophysiological enviroment improvement. About enviroment, our body is the closest enviroment to us. Wearing rudraksha is adding an enviro! ! mental factor to our closest sphere ! ! of influence. Wearing 1, 10, 11, 12 faced beads stabilizes our auric sphere by generating energies of concentration (1) of spreading consciousness (10) of consistency of attention (11) and of at-one-ment (12). Someone once said at-one-ment = atonement. This is a jumble of ideas submitted .....for your approval kantikakini vvvvvvvvvvvcvvcvccv Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:45 PM another 11 Mukhi Question The 11 Mukhi is described as the Light Mass of Lord Rudra? What exactly is the Light Mass of Lord Rudra? Is it the 11 Rudras & if so where can one find out more about them? Is it reference to the protecting power ? Is this an experience in meditation? Or all of the above ?? Thank You Namaste Kanti Sponsor Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Dear Kirkji These are great clarifications Thanks I do agree with this clarified sentence Watch yourself amplify that battlefield situation when you destroy the enemy Noticed that I had a reaction and did not agree with prior sentence that said may amplify negativity in hostile situations. Is understood we all know that sometimes destruction is not negative. Reaction was due to my never experiencing amplification of negativity in the conflicts I have experienced while liveing with the Rudraksa. In my experiences of psychic battle with the Rudraksa and Mantras they are built and applied with intent and purpose from a level of Samadhi and rise in a giant tidal wave of Light that destroys the ignorance and darkness that has been identified as causeing suffereing and pain and being threatening to Life and Evolution on all Levels. This type of destruction is not a negative action and I have always without exception experienced an intense amplification on Positive Energy that actually consumes negative energy and grows stronger and stronger till the negative no longer exists. Is like walking into dark room and intentionally switching on Light Example is that the enemy is not necessarily the physical person and that it is not always necessary to physically destroy an angry disatisfied enemy. If you are able in some way to make a percieved enemy experience total happiness on the battlefield they lose their need to carry out orders of superiors who are trying to control them to kill others they dont even know much less want to destroy Aum Namo Hanumate Rudra Avataraya Parayentra Sarva Karya Siddhi Pradaya Sri Rama Dutaya Swaha Aum Namo Hanumate Rudra Avataraya Parayentra Mantra Tantra Trataka Nashakaya Sri Rama Dutaya Swaha Yes Lord Hanuman was the greatest Siddha that ever existed and yes on the battlefield this Rudraksa and Lord Hanuman Siddhi Mantras will definitly amplify the situation with positive Light Energy to destroy the intent and purpose of the opposeing enemy Is my opinion that all Ksatriya Warriors and Soldiers of India who are on front lines today would have intense advantage over enemy if they are wearing the Lord Ganesha and Lord Hanuman Rudraksa and are working with Mantra Discipline combining DharmaYudda and PrakasaYuddha and MantraYudda in the same Light The Kali Yuga has shown itself not to be an age of Ahimsa and Destruction of an Enemy that is threatening a persons family and communities evolution and spiritual path is not necessarily negative Sometimes is necessary to follow the example of Lord Rama calling the Missles and Arjuna on the Battlefield and yes agree on wearer being extremely sensitive to negativity and injustice in non life threatening situations and feeling need to destroy this pain and suffereing and at same time has the Knowledge of how to pick the battle that will insure positive outcome and not let battle or the negativity control them. 11 Mukhi Rudraksa is perfect for Self Empowerment and Fearless Life Is seen that person who wears 11 Mukhi Rudraksa is extremely aware of injustice and ignorance on all levels. In addition to this if a responsible decision is made to act on this knowledge to correct problem and bring environment back into balance then wearer is able to Accomplish resolution through Lord Hanuman learning, virtues, cleverness and wisdom Thanks for great clarification My Friend Welcomeing any and all criticism and comments of anything said here Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum DharmaDev Arya Ramaswamy, Arun <ARamaswamy <> Sunday, May 26, 2002 4:14 AM RE: another 11 Mukhi Question Can Mr Kirk kindly explain the significance and the benefits of wearing each one of the type of Rudrakshi beads, and much many of them must be worn etc. I need to understand the practical benefits of the rudrakshis better. what is the significance of the 1 mukhi, the 2 mukhi etc etc till the 11th or the 19th mukhi etc...what do all of these stand for. I am totally ignorant of these but would really appreciate an explanation thanks Arun Kirk [kirk_bernhardt] Sunday, May 26, 2002 2:44 PM Re: another 11 Mukhi Question Dear Kirkji OK I have an enquireing mind so will ask Regarding One can only wear these if one has gotten major portion of sinful nature under control otherwise it will be thoroughly shown to mind One cannot sin forever now can one? At some point one must atone. Maybe not understanding context here however References state the wearing of Rudraksa removes all sin and suffering. That is one of the main reasons and purposes we recommend all different Rudraksa to the Mankind Rudrakshas might remove samskaras from physiology but they don't force ones moral choices which person is still responsible for. What is the point of rudraksha and wearing if one kills ones guru and sleeps with his wife? Srimaddevibhagavat also states Person wearing Rudraksa is not....... affected...... by any sins due from various deeds Ruleing Diety of eleven mukhi Rudraksa is Rudra himself. Indra is also said to be its ruleing diety. It always renders happiness and pleasure Rudraksajabalopanisad state On wearing it..... removes....... the sins committed during day and night. It gives one lakh fold merits on seeing and one crore fold merits on wearing A Rudraksa with eleven faces is virtually Ekadasa Rudradeva. It is responsible for good fortunes In regards to these references I dont understand statement made may amplify negativity in hostile situations Personally I would never be without the Lord Hanuman Rudraksa on the field of battle where individuals in armies were physically destroying one another Watch yourself amplify that battlefield situation when you destroy the enemy. Even in smaller non threatening life situations you may find a tendency to see the negative more frankly and may want to destroy it. Also dont understand Rudras are wrathful aspects of God so could you please explain this The rudras are bow weilding devas in Yajur Veda. They are rsponsible for shooting down the unjust. Propitiation is made to them for mercy and for justice. Then need to know more about one of last statements as have no knowledge regarding this, have not found this in references and this is the first time I have heard this When one wears Rudraksa in general one is offereing oneself to them and oneself is also the goal of the sacrifice Why would someone offer themselves to the Rudraksa As when a Christian takes the sacrament one is taking something into the body but one is offering oneself up to the experience. Just as when wedding the spouse one is taking someone on one also is offering themselves in union. Purusha sukta is from 10th mandala rig veda and describes the whole of existence as purusha being sacrificed back to purusha for growth of purusha. Likewise wearing rudraksha is taking help of rudra and offering oneself to rudra. Superstitious people may get frightened but Rudra is just a name for God. This is not a scientific thing like Transcendental Meditation, which is devoid of religious content (sic), but rather it is a religious thing which may have scientific merit someday. Nonetheless, for any positive spiritual growth one must surrender the ego and that is making an offering. Thanks Mitra DharmaDeva Arya Kirk <kirk_bernhardt <> Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:47 PM Re: another 11 Mukhi Question Thank you, also on subject, eleven rudras are propitiated through chanting Sri Rudram and doing Abhisheka on Lingam. Namakam and chamakam of Rudram are from chapter four of Yajur Veda the only place in all of vedas where God is honored in all ways as Rudra or Siva. The wearing of the eleven faced bead is in my opinion similar to the propitiation of the linga through Rudrabhisheka, it bestows all virtues upon one. One can only wear these if one has gotten major portion of sinful nature under control otherwise it will be thoroughly shown to mind. They also bring light to enviroment and so may amplify negativity in hostile situations. They therefore should be worn for and during meditation when mind is at peace. Rudras are wrathful aspects of God. They need to be propitiated so one may do abhiskheka on 11 faced beads with milk and flowers and sing their praise to control their temperment. For this reason the lingam is always cooled with water and sweet thi! ! ngs and ! flowers and also why Purusha Suktam is read during Rudram. Purusha suktam describes purusha as the offering and the offerer. When one wears rudraksha in general one is offering oneself to them and oneself is also the goal of the sacrifice. 11 in numerology is the master builder number of the teacher. The person who illuminates. - ShiningLotus Saturday, May 25, 2002 9:28 PM Re: another 11 Mukhi Question Dear Kirkji There is no way in the world I can do better than this explanation Can honestly say you continually amaze me with your Knowledge and am constantly finding myself saying how in the world do you know all this Look forward to many more messages like this Aum Namo Bhagavate Rudraya Namaha Thanks and Take Care Mitra DharmaDev Arya Kirk <kirk_bernhardt <> Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:55 PM Re: another 11 Mukhi Question Additionally, the titles of 8, 11, 12 faced beads are derived from Rig Veda. 8 faced beads are the Vasus, 11 are the Rudras, and 12 are the Adityas. 8 faced beads are the gayatri, 11 faced are the trishtub, and 12 are the jagati meters. - Kirk Saturday, May 25, 2002 8:21 PM Re: another 11 Mukhi Question I'm glad you asked this question and I do have an answer. I don't know how logical it is but submitted for your approval. One faced rudraksha is the sun, eleven is the internal polar cycle of the sun. This is fact, each year for eleven years the sun'spolarity changes from its north to south and back. The major sunflare activity takes place during the middle years of the cycle. The 11 faced bead is like the combined solar effect of the sun's cycles all at once and so a balanced expression and wearable quality of that energy. Also, the 10 mukhi bead is for space, and 12 mukhi is the sun through all 12 rashis or houses. Each of these space and solar related beads - 1, 10, 11, 12, is an aspect of space and sun and constellational virtue for our personal neurophysiological enviroment improvement. About enviroment, our body is the closest enviroment to us. Wearing rudraksha is adding an enviro! ! mental factor to our closest sphere ! ! of influence. Wearing ! 1, 10, 11, 12 faced beads stabilizes our auric sphere by generating energies of concentration (1) of spreading consciousness (10) of consistency of attention (11) and of at-one-ment (12). Someone once said at-one-ment = atonement. This is a jumble of ideas submitted .....for your approval kantikakini vvvvvvvvvvvcvvcvccv Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:45 PM another 11 Mukhi Question The 11 Mukhi is described as the Light Mass of Lord Rudra? What exactly is the Light Mass of Lord Rudra? Is it the 11 Rudras & if so where can one find out more about them? Is it reference to the protecting power ? Is this an experience in meditation? Or all of the above ?? Thank You Namaste Kanti Sponsor Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Your use of is subject to Sponsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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