Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Dear fellow members, From knowlege it is clear that we are beyond body. How to experience this? How to experience our true identity? How can a layman exeperience it? If anyone can tell ways to experience this. Do mail them. Regards, Moorthy " on the web. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Namathe. Thanks to the moderator for the invitation you have extended to join this cyber temple of Shiva. I would like to post the reply as for this first mail received. The maha Vakyaas of the Upanishads say that we are Brahman and not a " layman " as observed. Bagwaan Ramana says that there are only two ways of Realization of SELF -- the first is direct method questioning you constantly " WHOM AM I " ? this is not possible for the 99.99 % of population. so this becomes an in-effective solution. Then what is the solution for the majority ? he continues in the same breath -- that there is the second method but an indirect one . " Through Devotion to God" -- through Dhyana, japa, puja, abhisheaka, archana, paryanana, aradhan,Hvans, Yagas, going to holy places etc with a Nish Kamya thought -- Gradually the clarity of mind develops and the pressure of attachment of the mind to the body gets diluted in this life or the life to come and the Real Self unfolds in due course. mind is the real culprit for our rebirths. Nish Kmaya prayers are important as the body we have taken is unique to our karmas and we would waste our time and energy if we try to overcome the defects of mind or body by asking for favours from god. aceept what you have been given and try to better it.( while it is NOT Wrong to seek it from God. ) Our rebirth is due to the impurity of anthakarana - there are 4 defects of our mind and it is compared to a mirror. Mala : Gross impurities of the mind such as anger, hate and greed -- Here the image is unclear -- like the dust on mirror. Vikshepa : Distraction of mind like the hand that holds the mirror shakes violently due to which there is wrong perception of the mind. Avidya : Ignorance -- assuming one wipes the dustof mirror and holds it steadily still there is thin veil and blocks your vision and still one sees incorrectly. When the anthakarana gets purified through constant sadhana then there is an internal communivation with the real SELF which is profound and the MIND gets dissolved to the truth of Maha Vaakyas. To summarize here we go depending on our spiritual status. A beginner sees the world full of trouble, struggle, terror, suceess, failure and ever changing environment. As one elevates himself from this cobweb, he begins to see the world with divine prescence an invisible hand in everything. When this sadhak through constant sadhAna either indirect or direct attunes his mind the intution shines forth in his heart and the world completely dissolves revealing the one Brahman in every name and form of the pluralities around. The inner most reality in every human is the Bliss or the ananda -- but we fail to see it due the Rajas and thamas of our mind. But Thanks to the satvic quality in us -- that atleat wehave started our journey to the final Goal. look forward to the Valued comments !! Regards ganapthy , "MLM" <moorthyvlr> wrote: > > Dear fellow members, > From knowlege it is clear that we are beyond > body. How to experience this? How to experience our true identity? How > can a layman exeperience it? If anyone can tell ways to experience > this. Do mail them. > > Regards, > Moorthy > " on the web. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Dear MLM, Your question has been ansewred in this group earlier. "Those who realized "Brahman" wont come back into this world to tell about their experience as we seek". Attempts to explain "our views" as a sort of meanings to such realization can be only told by many people like me "ignorant -not exerienced". If I may be pardoned, I would say briefly that as long as one has "DEHA BHRANTI", GOD REALISATION -Brahmanandam cannot be experienced. We are all Jeevatma state which is nothing but a reflection in mirrorlike state of PARAMATMA. This sidhi, it is said insastras attainable with tapas, Yoga and total surrender of egoistic Self to Almighty. M.B.Prasada Rao, Visakhapatnam. --- MLM <moorthyvlr (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear fellow members, > From knowlege it is clear that > we are beyond > body. How to experience this? How to experience our > true identity? How > can a layman exeperience it? If anyone can tell ways > to experience > this. Do mail them. > > Regards, > Moorthy > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Lord shiva Visit your group "" on the web. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 We are a combination of Body and spirit. Human and Being. we have the knowledge of human-body, but ignorant of Being, the Eternal Soul. When our mind is not allowed to think too much or worry, by creating thoughts which are only necessary for our daily activities and surrendering ourself to the Supreme Almighty God all the worries we have and with deep Faith in God, we can experience Peace within ourselves. Peace is our swadharam, the original nature.When we are able to experience the Peace, we will get rid of our body conscious and we can have the experience of soul, the point of light located at the middle of eyebrow.when we experience the soul, our conscious will expand and we will connect to the whole world which in other wise called as becoming Brahman, one with Supreme Soul Qualities and in Science it is called synchronization of left and right brain. To experience this, morning 2 to 5 a.m. is the right time because the nature also peaceful and our mind also will be free from waste thoughts, it is easy to realize our soul and experience its powers. Once we have this experience in the morning, the whole day we can maintain the awareness of soul, being alert, happy, ever content, sweet and loving towards others, being light, free from worries, free from waste thinking, successful in all actions and our nature will become in course of time "NOT TO TAKE SORROWS AND NOT TO GIVE SORROWS", "GIVE BLESSINGS AND TAKE BLESSINGS". For detailed course pls. visit any of your local nearby centre from http://www.bkwsu.org/ to learn the method, free of cost. > Dear fellow members, > From knowlege it is clear that > we are beyond > body. How to experience this? How to experience our > true identity? How > can a layman exeperience it? If anyone can tell ways > to experience > this. Do mail them. > > Regards, > Moorthy New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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