Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Dear Twit, Namaste!!! You have good question. But please note that the "mad man" who broke the deity was not murdered. After breaking the shrine at 1 am the local cleaners who saw the crime tried to catch the culprit to hand to police, but he had a hammer and was fighting them, in the fight he was hit, according to his karma, and died by accident. Interesting that after the death not one single Hindu or Buddhist complained in Letters to the Editor of any newpapers, it was only one lone videshi mletcha who wrote saying it was wrong to kill that man. In fact he died by accident in course of struggle to escape. Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, twit wrote: > > > Dear respected Richardji , > referring to your story about the vandalisation of the sacred Lord Brahma > erawan site. > i've thought long and hard about the matter regarding the aspect of karmma > and seek your esteemed opinion on the matter.that is regards to who > actually would have earned the worst bad karmas from all those involved on > the inauspicious day and actions. > of course one cannot condone the reckless actions of the said 'crazy > Muslim guy'to attack the sacred site.obviously he would have caused > undue distress and unhappiness amongst many of the devoted. > however isn't it possible that he was acting following his past karmmas or > kilesas[past habitual actions] in attacking the shrine.according to Muslim > faith all icons actually act as an impediment between the supreme reality > and the devotee. > I'm not meaning to be disrespectful but,as you know Lord Brahma was/is in > the unenviable position of fulfilling his wish granting boons,and as one > can imagine many of the wishes requested at Erawan would have been for > selfish ,materialsitic gains and only a percentage would have been out of > respect for the supreme reality. > on the other hand those who beat the poor misguided guy to death would > have incurred unbetold bad karmmas for acting out of anger against human > nature and their Buddhist or Hindu faith in taking another's life ,no > matter what his crime. > while i'm not asking for judgement from you,i'm wondering who do you think > would have eanred more severe bad karmas for their violent actions on the > day.[ie .altho all parties involved were caught in maya's sticky web and > acting under delusion, which was the greater sin-the vandalisation ,or the > murder?] > looking fwd to your reply to help clear my mind over the matter, > sincerely respectful > twit > Dear Sriman, > > > > Its nice to have hard work gain appreciation. Thank you for > > encouragement. > > > > The Deity with 5 heads at World Trade is named Pra Siam Devathiraj - the > > ruling deity of > > Siam, and his main form is located on the grounds of the Emerald Buddha. > > Philosophically > > he could be taken as a manifestation of Indra, who has many eyes (all > > seeing) but here i'm > > speculating. He is the Ruling Deity of Thailand. > > > > It is also interesting to note that so many images of Lord Brahma, such > > as Erawan, are > > worshipped all over Thailand. There must be thousands in Bangkok alone. > > Actually Lord > > Brahma was cursed that he would not be worshipped and to this day there > > is only one > > temple to Lord Brahma in all India. In spite of his huge importance as a > > "Guna-avatar" of > > Lord Vishnu, still he is not worshipped in India. In fact ONLY Thailand > > has this tradition of > > worship and respect to Lord Brahma (Pra Prom) and I attribute that fact > > to Thailand's > > wonderful life style and good fortune to have never been colonized as > > well as become > > such a nice culture of non-honking, polite people. In fact, Bangkok is > > like a materialistic > > Brahma-loka. More people should worship Lord Brahma and the world would > > be a better > > place. > > > > Best rgds, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects, twit@n... wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Richard,wishing you the best for the chinese new year.i hope > > you > > > had a time to enjoy. > > > once again i want to thank you for your selfless work in promoting > > > discussions on the sacred objects.Please be assured that there are many > > > who appreciate your divine work. > > > i know your time is precious,and that you must be busy with your > > > devotional practises;co-ordinating the sacred discussions;and your > > design > > > work,but i 'm going to trouble you once again with request to share > > your > > > knowledge. > > > i am also working on sacred objects web site ,but actually not the > > > sanatam-dharma objects which you specialise in. > > > i have a 5 face Hindu icon,such as the one in front of the world trade > > > centre ,diamettrically opposite to the sacred 4 face Pra Prom,just > > there > > > near to your gallery.however i'm having troubles to remember his sacred > > > name.as i want to load this onto my web site,i'm wondering if you can > > > provide me with the details of his name. > > > once again i'm sorry to trouble you ,and thank you in advance for any > > > thoughts you may put this query > > > regards > > > twit Greeting soul Friends Greeting soul Friends > > > > > > > > "God" and the universe > > > > For Hindus, the entire universe is part of the Divine- everything > > is > > > > part of "God". And so "God", for Hindus, is > > present in everything. > > > > > > > > "God" and the "Soul" > > > > Hindus believe that each soul is an individual, and yet is also a > > part > > > > of the Divine; is part of "God". > > > > > > > > "God" and gods > > > > Hindus acknowledge and worship various gods, but these are all > > aspects > > > > of the one supreme "God". > > > > The gods Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma are different forms and names of > > the > > > > one God. Vishnu in particular has appeared on earth in various forms. > > > > Among these, Krishna and Rama are especially loved and worshipped. > > > > Most Westerners think that Hinduism is polytheistic-which means > > > > worshipping many gods, but in fact Hindus actually believe in only > > one > > > > supreme God, called "Brahman". > > > > Brahman is a supreme spirit that permeates everything. > > > > BUT: Brahman is not a being in the sense that Christians think of > > God as > > > > a being - Brahman is entirely impersonal, and entirely impossible to > > > > describe. > > > > Everything in the universe is part of Brahman, (including each one > > of > > > > us), but Brahman is more than the sum of everything in the universe. > > > > So what about all those Hindu gods you see in the temples? Read on… > > > > > > > > One God and many Gods > > > > There is only one ultimate reality, Brahman. But that ultimate > > reality > > > > shows itself in many forms, and some of those forms are called Gods. > > > > The gods Brahma, Vishnu and Siva, for example, are different > > aspects of > > > > Brahman: > > > > Brahma reflects God's divine work of creating the universe · > > > > Vishnu reflects God's work in keeping the universe in existence > > > > Siva reflects God's work in destroying it. > > > > Vishnu has appeared on earth in the past at times of crisis, in 9 > > > > different forms (a 10th form is yet to appear). > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > Aravind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover > > > > Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9;s eye Bona fide > > Yellow sapphire > > Blue sapphires > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 > hi Richard,yes thanks for clearing up the confusion. yes it seems that he had to pay heavily for his offensive actions.a case of instant karma ,we might say;and of course justice remitted from the heavens by those that he most offended. thanks again for your time to clarify the situation. regards twit Dear Twit, > > Namaste!!! You have good question. But please note that the "mad > man" who broke the > deity was not murdered. After breaking the shrine at 1 am the local > cleaners who saw the > crime tried to catch the culprit to hand to police, but he had a hammer > and was fighting > them, in the fight he was hit, according to his karma, and died by > accident. > > Interesting that after the death not one single Hindu or Buddhist > complained in Letters to > the Editor of any newpapers, it was only one lone videshi mletcha who > wrote saying it was > wrong to kill that man. In fact he died by accident in course of struggle > to escape. > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, twit wrote: > > > > > Dear respected Richardji , > > referring to your story about the vandalisation of the sacred Lord > Brahma > > erawan site. > > i've thought long and hard about the matter regarding the aspect of > karmma > > and seek your esteemed opinion on the matter.that is regards to who > > actually would have earned the worst bad karmas from all those involved > on > > the inauspicious day and actions. > > of course one cannot condone the reckless actions of the said 'crazy > > Muslim guy'to attack the sacred site.obviously he would have caused > > undue distress and unhappiness amongst many of the devoted. > > however isn't it possible that he was acting following his past karmmas > or > > kilesas[past habitual actions] in attacking the shrine.according to > Muslim > > faith all icons actually act as an impediment between the supreme > reality > > and the devotee. > > I'm not meaning to be disrespectful but,as you know Lord Brahma was/is > in > > the unenviable position of fulfilling his wish granting boons,and as > one > > can imagine many of the wishes requested at Erawan would have been for > > selfish ,materialsitic gains and only a percentage would have been out > of > > respect for the supreme reality. > > on the other hand those who beat the poor misguided guy to death would > > have incurred unbetold bad karmmas for acting out of anger against > human > > nature and their Buddhist or Hindu faith in taking another's life ,no > > matter what his crime. > > while i'm not asking for judgement from you,i'm wondering who do you > think > > would have eanred more severe bad karmas for their violent actions on > the > > day.[ie .altho all parties involved were caught in maya's sticky web > and > > acting under delusion, which was the greater sin-the vandalisation ,or > the > > murder?] > > looking fwd to your reply to help clear my mind over the matter, > > sincerely respectful > > twit > > Dear Sriman, > > > > > > Its nice to have hard work gain appreciation. Thank you for > > > encouragement. > > > > > > The Deity with 5 heads at World Trade is named Pra Siam Devathiraj - > the > > > ruling deity of > > > Siam, and his main form is located on the grounds of the Emerald > Buddha. > > > Philosophically > > > he could be taken as a manifestation of Indra, who has many eyes > (all > > > seeing) but here i'm > > > speculating. He is the Ruling Deity of Thailand. > > > > > > It is also interesting to note that so many images of Lord Brahma, > such > > > as Erawan, are > > > worshipped all over Thailand. There must be thousands in Bangkok > alone. > > > Actually Lord > > > Brahma was cursed that he would not be worshipped and to this day > there > > > is only one > > > temple to Lord Brahma in all India. In spite of his huge importance > as a > > > "Guna-avatar" of > > > Lord Vishnu, still he is not worshipped in India. In fact ONLY > Thailand > > > has this tradition of > > > worship and respect to Lord Brahma (Pra Prom) and I attribute that > fact > > > to Thailand's > > > wonderful life style and good fortune to have never been colonized > as > > > well as become > > > such a nice culture of non-honking, polite people. In fact, Bangkok > is > > > like a materialistic > > > Brahma-loka. More people should worship Lord Brahma and the world > would > > > be a better > > > place. > > > > > > Best rgds, > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects, twit@n... wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Richard,wishing you the best for the chinese new year.i > hope > > > you > > > > had a time to enjoy. > > > > once again i want to thank you for your selfless work in promoting > > > > discussions on the sacred objects.Please be assured that there are > many > > > > who appreciate your divine work. > > > > i know your time is precious,and that you must be busy with your > > > > devotional practises;co-ordinating the sacred discussions;and your > > > design > > > > work,but i 'm going to trouble you once again with request to > share > > > your > > > > knowledge. > > > > i am also working on sacred objects web site ,but actually not > the > > > > sanatam-dharma objects which you specialise in. > > > > i have a 5 face Hindu icon,such as the one in front of the world > trade > > > > centre ,diamettrically opposite to the sacred 4 face Pra Prom,just > > > there > > > > near to your gallery.however i'm having troubles to remember his > sacred > > > > name.as i want to load this onto my web site,i'm wondering if you > can > > > > provide me with the details of his name. > > > > once again i'm sorry to trouble you ,and thank you in advance for > any > > > > thoughts you may put this query > > > > regards > > > > twit Greeting soul Friends Greeting soul Friends > > > > > > > > > > "God" and the universe > > > > > For Hindus, the entire universe is part of the Divine- > everything > > > is > > > > > part of "God". And so "God", > for Hindus, is > > > present in everything. > > > > > > > > > > "God" and the "Soul" > > > > > Hindus believe that each soul is an individual, and yet is > also a > > > part > > > > > of the Divine; is part of "God". > > > > > > > > > > "God" and gods > > > > > Hindus acknowledge and worship various gods, but these are all > > > aspects > > > > > of the one supreme "God". > > > > > The gods Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma are different forms and > names of > > > the > > > > > one God. Vishnu in particular has appeared on earth in various > forms. > > > > > Among these, Krishna and Rama are especially loved and > worshipped. > > > > > Most Westerners think that Hinduism is polytheistic-which > means > > > > > worshipping many gods, but in fact Hindus actually believe in > only > > > one > > > > > supreme God, called "Brahman". > > > > > Brahman is a supreme spirit that permeates everything. > > > > > BUT: Brahman is not a being in the sense that Christians think > of > > > God as > > > > > a being - Brahman is entirely impersonal, and entirely > impossible to > > > > > describe. > > > > > Everything in the universe is part of Brahman, (including each > one > > > of > > > > > us), but Brahman is more than the sum of everything in the > universe. > > > > > So what about all those Hindu gods you see in the temples? > Read on… > > > > > > > > > > One God and many Gods > > > > > There is only one ultimate reality, Brahman. But that ultimate > > > reality > > > > > shows itself in many forms, and some of those forms are called > Gods. > > > > > The gods Brahma, Vishnu and Siva, for example, are different > > > aspects of > > > > > Brahman: > > > > > Brahma reflects God's divine work of creating the universe · > > > > > Vishnu reflects God's work in keeping the universe in > existence > > > > > Siva reflects God's work in destroying it. > > > > > Vishnu has appeared on earth in the past at times of crisis, > in 9 > > > > > different forms (a 10th form is yet to appear). > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > Aravind > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover > > > > > Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9;s eye Bona fide > > > Yellow sapphire > > > Blue sapphires > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > > > > sacred-objects > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > sacred-objects > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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