Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Dear Chandrashekharji, Namaste!!! Thanks for that useful info. It's strange one Thai man also told me that Tamil meaning. Very interesting... We're always learning... Q: Can you tell how many types of Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum there are? It would be good to compile a list and show a picture of each type. Thanks in advance... Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > Respected Richard ji, > > In Tamil language 'Valam' means 'Right' and 'Idam' means 'Left'. The conch turning towards right (sinistral) is therefore called in the Tamil language as 'Valampuri' and the normal dextral conch is called as 'Idampuri'. > > With regards, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > I was just researching in Apti's Sanskrit Dictionary about Valampuri. Vala(m) means spinning, twisting, going, turning around; and Pura means (among other things) the right (direction). So, of course, Valampuri means the one that spins or turns to the right (direction). This is how the area got it's Sanskrit name. > > INTERESTING!!! > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > sacred-objects > > > > > > > > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 L. Under the species Turbinella pyrum there are at least five different varieties and further, many more morphological types. In case of shells, distribution of a particular species, colour variation and design is mainly associated with ecological and geographical factors. Shell habitat, depth at which shell has its natural habitat, whether in the deep sea or in shallow water ? Shell colour is also related with its diet and to camouflage with the surroundings for natural protection from its predators. Surrounding includes, sea land, sea weeds and colonies of other marine animals in the vicinity. Indian sacred conch is mainly distributed in three geographical zones on the eastern coast of India. These are also known as eco-geographic zones. Indian Conch Turbinella pyrum ( dextral and sinistral ) from Rameshwaram, bay of Bengal, and from its natural habitat near Sri Lanka show morphological difference. There are many species under the genus Turbinella. Many of the earlier species which were described under Turbinella are now transferred to other conch genera other than Turbinella. Taxonomy of the genus Turbinella is not worked out completely due to its main natural habitat in the Indian ocean. The available documented research work on Turbinella was carried out is at least 100 to 200 years old and not easily available to compare new collections. Thanking you and with regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke Poona, India. Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 > wrote: Dear Chandrashekharji,Namaste!!! Thanks for that useful info. It's strange one Thai man also told me that Tamil meaning. Very interesting... We're always learning...Q: Can you tell how many types of Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum there are? It would be good to compile a list and show a picture of each type.Thanks in advance...Best rgds,Richard--- In sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote:>> Respected Richard ji,> > In Tamil language 'Valam' means 'Right' and 'Idam' means 'Left'. The conch turning towards right (sinistral) is therefore called in the Tamil language as 'Valampuri' and the normal dextral conch is called as 'Idampuri'.> > With regards,> > Chandrashekhar Phadke> > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> I was just researching in Apti's Sanskrit Dictionary about Valampuri. Vala(m) means spinning, twisting, going, turning around; and Pura means (among other things) the right (direction). So, of course, Valampuri means the one that spins or turns to the right (direction). This is how the area got it's Sanskrit name. > > INTERESTING!!!> > > > > > > ! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web.> > > sacred-objects> > > > > > > > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket> Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time.> Jiyo cricket on India cricket Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Dear Chandrashekar, Your reply was very informative so I put it as an article on the PGA site at http://www.p-g-a.org/articles.html Now the real question is to get the 5 different Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum pictures and distinctions. Like, I was told that the Valampuri shanks with the end shaped like a multi- level royal crown are the most rare. Is that true? What about the white shiny ones that look too good to be true, quite strange? We beg you to enlighten us further. Best rgds, Richard sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, > > Thank you very much for your mail. There are many other names for Valampuri in different Indian languages. This conch is also known as 'Lakshmi Shank', 'Mahalakshmi Shank', 'Vishnu Shank', 'Jamuna Shank' etc. I know very few names. There are 18 recognised Indian languages, this list may further be increased if we count spoken languages. It is therefore important to collect information on other synonymous words to Valampuri and Idampuri. > > Scientifically, there are many different types and varities in marine and fresh water shells. It is said that only 30% of marine animals have been explored and identified so far. This means still 70% marine fauna is unexplored. I am trying to collect information on different species under the genus Turbinella other than the species Turbinella pyrum L. Under the species Turbinella pyrum there are at least five different varieties and further, many more morphological types. > > In case of shells, distribution of a particular species, colour variation and design is mainly associated with ecological and geographical factors. Shell habitat, depth at which shell has its natural habitat, whether in the deep sea or in shallow water ? Shell colour is also related with its diet and to camouflage with the surroundings for natural protection from its predators. Surrounding includes, sea land, sea weeds and colonies of other marine animals in the vicinity. Indian sacred conch is mainly distributed in three geographical zones on the eastern coast of India. These are also known as eco- geographic zones. > > Indian Conch Turbinella pyrum ( dextral and sinistral ) from Rameshwaram, bay of Bengal, and from its natural habitat near Sri Lanka show morphological difference. > > There are many species under the genus Turbinella. Many of the earlier species which were described under Turbinella are now transferred to other conch genera other than Turbinella. Taxonomy of the genus Turbinella is not worked out completely due to its main natural habitat in the Indian ocean. The available documented research work on Turbinella was carried out is at least 100 to 200 years old and not easily available to compare new collections. > > Thanking you and with regards, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > Poona, India. > > > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 wrote: > Dear Chandrashekharji, > > Namaste!!! Thanks for that useful info. It's strange one Thai man also told me that Tamil > meaning. Very interesting... We're always learning... > > Q: Can you tell how many types of Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum there are? It would be good > to compile a list and show a picture of each type. > > Thanks in advance... > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke@> wrote: > > > > Respected Richard ji, > > > > In Tamil language 'Valam' means 'Right' and 'Idam' means 'Left'. The conch turning > towards right (sinistral) is therefore called in the Tamil language as 'Valampuri' and the > normal dextral conch is called as 'Idampuri'. > > > > With regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > I was just researching in Apti's Sanskrit Dictionary about Valampuri. Vala(m) means > spinning, twisting, going, turning around; and Pura means (among other things) the right > (direction). So, of course, Valampuri means the one that spins or turns to the right > (direction). This is how the area got it's Sanskrit name. > > > > INTERESTING!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > > > > > > Sanskrit dictionary s eye Yellow sapphire Sacred Blue sapphires > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > sacred-objects > > > > > > > > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Dear Chandrasekhar Phadke & Richard Brown, The legend and the technicalities of the Holy Valampuri are interesting. Whenever I hold one in my hands, it gives me a wonderful feeling. Over a period of time I have been collecting pictures of this highly coveted Dakshinavarti. I have put the pictures on my site here > http://www.astrojyoti.com/dakshinavartishankhapictures.htm As it is a very rare item, even the major Shankha dealers have only limited experience and knowledge about it - though everyone tries to claim he is an "expert". Hence I am trying to put together all the available pictures so that there is some kind of Valampuri picture reference. If any one in the group has more pictures, I'll deeply appreciate their contribution. If anyone has a real Valampuri, feel free to contact me. Thanks and regards Pandit S.P.Tata - chandrashekhar phadke sacred-objects Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:22 PM Re: How many types of Valampuri ? Respected Shri. Richard ji, Thank you very much for your mail. There are many other names for Valampuri in different Indian languages. This conch is also known as 'Lakshmi Shank', 'Mahalakshmi Shank', 'Vishnu Shank', 'Jamuna Shank' etc. I know very few names. There are 18 recognised Indian languages, this list may further be increased if we count spoken languages. It is therefore important to collect information on other synonymous words to Valampuri and Idampuri. Scientifically, there are many different types and varities in marine and fresh water shells. It is said that only 30% of marine animals have been explored and identified so far. This means still 70% marine fauna is unexplored. I am trying to collect information on different species under the genus Turbinella other than the species Turbinella pyrum L. Under the species Turbinella pyrum there are at least five different varieties and further, many more morphological types. In case of shells, distribution of a particular species, colour variation and design is mainly associated with ecological and geographical factors. Shell habitat, depth at which shell has its natural habitat, whether in the deep sea or in shallow water ? Shell colour is also related with its diet and to camouflage with the surroundings for natural protection from its predators. Surrounding includes, sea land, sea weeds and colonies of other marine animals in the vicinity. Indian sacred conch is mainly distributed in three geographical zones on the eastern coast of India. These are also known as eco-geographic zones. Indian Conch Turbinella pyrum ( dextral and sinistral ) from Rameshwaram, bay of Bengal, and from its natural habitat near Sri Lanka show morphological difference. There are many species under the genus Turbinella. Many of the earlier species which were described under Turbinella are now transferred to other conch genera other than Turbinella. Taxonomy of the genus Turbinella is not worked out completely due to its main natural habitat in the Indian ocean. The available documented research work on Turbinella was carried out is at least 100 to 200 years old and not easily available to compare new collections. Thanking you and with regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke Poona, India. Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 > wrote: Dear Chandrashekharji,Namaste!!! Thanks for that useful info. It's strange one Thai man also told me that Tamil meaning. Very interesting... We're always learning...Q: Can you tell how many types of Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum there are? It would be good to compile a list and show a picture of each type.Thanks in advance...Best rgds,Richardsacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote:>> Respected Richard ji,> > In Tamil language 'Valam' means 'Right' and 'Idam' means 'Left'. The conch turning towards right (sinistral) is therefore called in the Tamil language as 'Valampuri' and the normal dextral conch is called as 'Idampuri'.> > With regards,> > Chandrashekhar Phadke> > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> I was just researching in Apti's Sanskrit Dictionary about Valampuri. Vala(m) means spinning, twisting, going, turning around; and Pura means (among other things) the right (direction). So, of course, Valampuri means the one that spins or turns to the right (direction). This is how the area got it's Sanskrit name. > > INTERESTING!!!> > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> sacred-objects> > > > > > > > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket> Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time.> Jiyo cricket on India cricket Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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