Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 As the Sun is incompatible with Saturn, Venus, Rahu and Ketu, Sun gems such as ruby should not be used with blue sapphire, diamond, hessonite or cat's eye. As the Moon is incompatible with Rahu and Ketu, Moon gems such as pearl should not be used with hessonite or cat's-eye. As Jupiter is incompatible with Mercury and Venus, Jupiter gems such as yellow sapphire should not be used with emerald or diamond. As Rahu (Moon’s north node) is incompatible with Sun and Moon, Rahu gems such as hessonite should not be used with ruby or pearl. As Mercury is incompatible with the Moon, Mercury gems such as emerald should not be used with pearl or moonstone. As Venus is incompatible with the Sun and Moon, diamonds and other colorless gems should not be used with rubies or pearls. As Ketu (Moon’s south node) is incompatible with Sun and Moon, cat's eye gems should not be used with rubies or pearls. As Saturn is incompatible with Sun, Moon and Mars, Saturn gems such as blue sapphire should not be used with ruby, pearl or red coral. As Mars is incompatible with Mercury and Saturn , Mars gems like red coral should not be used with emerald or blue sapphires. Ref. ©1995 Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans --- Vishram Kunte <dr_vishram_2000 wrote: > Namaste Richardji, > I would like to know which "Gems" one can wear simultaneously (Same > time) and which are not to wear at same time. e.g. Yellow Sapphire + > Ruby etc. > Thanks and Warm Regards > Vishram > > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 wrote: > Dear Sri Vishram, > > Raw gems, if flawless, are just as good as cut gems. But usually the > rough stone has > matrix covering as well as flaws near the surface. So in cutting, the > idea is to remove the > matrix and cut away the surface defects until you have a pure gem. If > a gem is all full of > defects then it is junk and unfit for jyotish use. In olden days they > used to cut away the > matrix dirt and then just polish the natural crystal facets of the > rough form. So if you find > a flawless diamond crystal that is uncut then it is already fine to > wear (provided Shukra is a > good influence on the wearer). > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, Vishram Kunte > <dr_vishram_2000 wrote: > > > > Namaste Richardji, > > One Query: What effect one will have if he/she wears any Gem > without any polish (I > mean raw Gem from Mines) ?. Does it will have same astrological > effect as (Polished) Cut > Gems ?. > > Because if you take into account Diamond, there is big cost > difference between Cut and > uncut (Raw) diamond. So if one wears uncut diamond then does it have > same effect as cut > diamond ?. > > Please clarify. > > Warm Regards > > Vishram > > > > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 wrote: > > Sriman Varun, > > > > Namaste! Your message style is a good lesson to us all. > > > > Om svastyastu!!! > > > > Rgds, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects, "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@> > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Vashishtha ji, > > > > > > Shri Jagawat ji has every right and freedom of rejecting the Lal > > > Kitab. But that doesn't effect me, or many others like me, who > > > consider the Lal Kitab as a part of the Vedic astrology > tradition. > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" <a_jagawat@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > Let me tell you some views of very learned astrologers about > Lal > > > > Kitab. First of all its origin. There is no record as to its > > > origin > > > > or who wrote it. > > > > > > > > Second it is not logical and sequential like astological > inputs. > > > Its > > > > data is varied and mostly carries remedies which also have no > > > > significance as such. Most of the data is not only illogical > but > > > > completely makes fun of a salient brain. > > > > > > > > Some more interesting facts for you. Lal kitab is often read or > > > > used > > > > when someone runs under Rahu's period. I do not want to tell > you > > > > what is the significance of Rahu over here. I know you know > about > > > > it. Ask Mr. Raghunath Rao or Mr.Sanjay Rath. They can tell you > > > more > > > > about it. > > > > > > > > Please do not mind but getting the right predictions does not > mean > > > > that you are a good astrologer. I have seen that even > Charlatans > > > > perform this art very well. Astrology to be very precise is a > > > highly > > > > evolved science. It requires pin pointed logics and hard > grounds. > > > > > > > > Have you heard about Reiki. It is very prevelant in India. An > > > eight > > > > year old girl called eleven Reiki grand masters to a place and > > > > proved that what ever they were doing was not only false but > their > > > > claims were all wrong. Now even if i tell people that Reiki > will > > > not > > > > help them, i will not be able to shatter their hopes. This is > > > > because Thugs and Charlatans have outshined reality in such a > way > > > > that one cannot dare say anything about reality. > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, sorry for being rude. My intention is not to hurt > > > you. > > > > If you understand Gemini and Parashara then never think about > Lal > > > > Kitab or such things. > > > > > > > > Who knows there will be some Kali Kitab or Peeli Kitab one day. > > > > That > > > > will be a new Sun for Charlatans. > > > > > > > > A.J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, Ram Lubhaya Vashisth > > > > <rlvashisth@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > A good number of Astrologers in Punjab are > using > > > Lal > > > > Kitab for their predictions.Although I myself rely on Prashar > and > > > > Jamini but I have seen that > > > > > predictions of some Astrologers who use Lal Kitab had been > > > > correct and remedies > > > > > described in this treaties also work very well. > > > > > Some learned members in this group are of the view > > > that > > > > Lal Kitab is not an > > > > > Astrological Treaties.As such,I invite views of learned > > > members > > > > of this group that > > > > > weather Lal Kitab is an Astrological Treaties or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Er. Ram Lubhaya Vashisth, Astrologer > > > > > Briskeveien - 15, Vestofossen > > > > > Norway. > > > > > Ph. 0047 - 32756858 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail > > > > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9;s eye Bona fide Yellow sapphire Sacred Blue > sapphires > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try the new Philippines Front Page! > > > > > > 9;s eye Bona fide Yellow sapphire Sacred Blue > sapphires > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web. > > > sacred-objects > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > Try the new Philippines Front Page! Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Moon, Rahugems such as hessonite should not be used with ruby or pearl.As Mercury is incompatible with the Moon, Mercury gems such as emeraldshould not be used with pearl or moonstone.As Venus is incompatible with the Sun and Moon, diamonds and othercolorless gems should not be used with rubies or pearls.As Ketu (Moon’s south node) is incompatible with Sun and Moon, cat'seye gems should not be used with rubies or pearls.As Saturn is incompatible with Sun, Moon and Mars, Saturn gems such asblue sapphire should not be used with ruby, pearl or red coral.As Mars is incompatible with Mercury and Saturn , Mars gems like redcoral should not be used with emerald or blue sapphires.Ref. ©1995 Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans--- Vishram Kunte <dr_vishram_2000 > wrote:> Namaste Richardji,> I would like to know which "Gems" one can wear simultaneously (Same> time) and which are not to wear at same time. e.g. Yellow Sapphire +> Ruby etc.> Thanks and Warm Regards> Vishram> > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 > wrote:> Dear Sri Vishram,> > Raw gems, if flawless, are just as good as cut gems. But usually the> rough stone has > matrix covering as well as flaws near the surface. So in cutting, the> idea is to remove the > matrix and cut away the surface defects until you have a pure gem. If> a gem is all full of > defects then it is junk and unfit for jyotish use. In olden days they> used to cut away the > matrix dirt and then just polish the natural crystal facets of the> rough form. So if you find > a flawless diamond crystal that is uncut then it is already fine to> wear (provided Shukra is a > good influence on the wearer).> > Best rgds,> Richard> > sacred-objects, Vishram Kunte> <dr_vishram_2000 wrote:> >> > Namaste Richardji,> > One Query: What effect one will have if he/she wears any Gem> without any polish (I > mean raw Gem from Mines) ?. Does it will have same astrological> effect as (Polished) Cut > Gems ?. > > Because if you take into account Diamond, there is big cost> difference between Cut and > uncut (Raw) diamond. So if one wears uncut diamond then does it have> same effect as cut > diamond ?.> > Please clarify.> > Warm Regards> > Vishram> > > > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 wrote:> > Sriman Varun,> > > > Namaste! Your message style is a good lesson to us all.> > > > Om svastyastu!!!> > > > Rgds,> > Richard> > > > --- In sacred-objects, "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@>> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Vashishtha ji,> > > > > > Shri Jagawat ji has every right and freedom of rejecting the Lal > > > Kitab. But that doesn't effect me, or many others like me, who > > > consider the Lal Kitab as a part of the Vedic astrology> tradition.> > > > > > With naman to all gurujan.> > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" <a_jagawat@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Friend,> > > > > > > > Let me tell you some views of very learned astrologers about> Lal > > > > Kitab. First of all its origin. There is no record as to its > > > origin > > > > or who wrote it.> > > > > > > > Second it is not logical and sequential like astological> inputs. > > > Its > > > > data is varied and mostly carries remedies which also have no > > > > significance as such. Most of the data is not only illogical> but > > > > completely makes fun of a salient brain. > > > > > > > > Some more interesting facts for you. Lal kitab is often read or> > > > used > > > > when someone runs under Rahu's period. I do not want to tell> you > > > > what is the significance of Rahu over here. I know you know> about > > > > it. Ask Mr. Raghunath Rao or Mr.Sanjay Rath. They can tell you > > > more > > > > about it.> > > > > > > > Please do not mind but getting the right predictions does not> mean > > > > that you are a good astrologer. I have seen that even> Charlatans > > > > perform this art very well. Astrology to be very precise is a > > > highly > > > > evolved science. It requires pin pointed logics and hard> grounds.> > > > > > > > Have you heard about Reiki. It is very prevelant in India. An > > > eight > > > > year old girl called eleven Reiki grand masters to a place and > > > > proved that what ever they were doing was not only false but> their > > > > claims were all wrong. Now even if i tell people that Reiki> will > > > not > > > > help them, i will not be able to shatter their hopes. This is > > > > because Thugs and Charlatans have outshined reality in such a> way > > > > that one cannot dare say anything about reality.> > > > > > > > Dear Friend, sorry for being rude. My intention is not to hurt > > > you. > > > > If you understand Gemini and Parashara then never think about> Lal > > > > Kitab or such things.> > > > > > > > Who knows there will be some Kali Kitab or Peeli Kitab one day.> > > > That > > > > will be a new Sun for Charlatans.> > > > > > > > A.J> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, Ram Lubhaya Vashisth > > > > <rlvashisth@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear friends,> > > > > A good number of Astrologers in Punjab are> using > > > Lal > > > > Kitab for their predictions.Although I myself rely on Prashar> and > > > > Jamini but I have seen that> > > > > predictions of some Astrologers who use Lal Kitab had been > > > > correct and remedies> > > > > described in this treaties also work very well.> > > > > Some learned members in this group are of the view > > > that > > > > Lal Kitab is not an> > > > > Astrological Treaties.As such,I invite views of learned > > > members > > > > of this group that> > > > > weather Lal Kitab is an Astrological Treaties or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Er. Ram Lubhaya Vashisth, Astrologer > > > > > Briskeveien - 15, Vestofossen > > > > > Norway. > > > > > Ph. 0047 - 32756858> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail> > > > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9;s eye Bona fide Yellow sapphire Sacred Blue> sapphires > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web.> > > > To from this group, send an email to:> > sacred-objects> > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of> Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try the new Philippines Front Page!> >> > > > > > > > > > > 9;s eye Bona fide Yellow sapphire Sacred Blue> sapphires > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web.> > > sacred-objects> > Your use of is subject to the Terms of> Service. > > > > > > > > > > > Try the new Philippines Front Page!Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 moonstone.As Venus is incompatible with the Sun and Moon, diamonds and othercolorless gems should not be used with rubies or pearls.As Ketu (Moon’s south node) is incompatible with Sun and Moon, cat'seye gems should not be used with rubies or pearls.As Saturn is incompatible with Sun, Moon and Mars, Saturn gems such asblue sapphire should not be used with ruby, pearl or red coral.As Mars is incompatible with Mercury and Saturn , Mars gems like redcoral should not be used with emerald or blue sapphires.Ref. ©1995 Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans--- Vishram Kunte <dr_vishram_2000 > wrote:> Namaste Richardji,> I would like to know which "Gems" one can wear simultaneously (Same> time) and which are not to wear at same time. e.g. Yellow Sapphire +> Ruby etc.> Thanks and Warm Regards> Vishram> > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 > wrote:> Dear Sri Vishram,> > Raw gems, if flawless, are just as good as cut gems. But usually the> rough stone has > matrix covering as well as flaws near the surface. So in cutting, the> idea is to remove the > matrix and cut away the surface defects until you have a pure gem. If> a gem is all full of > defects then it is junk and unfit for jyotish use. In olden days they> used to cut away the > matrix dirt and then just polish the natural crystal facets of the> rough form. So if you find > a flawless diamond crystal that is uncut then it is already fine to> wear (provided Shukra is a > good influence on the wearer).> > Best rgds,> Richard> > sacred-objects, Vishram Kunte> <dr_vishram_2000 wrote:> >> > Namaste Richardji,> > One Query: What effect one will have if he/she wears any Gem> without any polish (I > mean raw Gem from Mines) ?. Does it will have same astrological> effect as (Polished) Cut > Gems ?. > > Because if you take into account Diamond, there is big cost> difference between Cut and > uncut (Raw) diamond. So if one wears uncut diamond then does it have> same effect as cut > diamond ?.> > Please clarify.> > Warm Regards> > Vishram> > > > Richard Shaw-Brown II <rsbj66 wrote:> > Sriman Varun,> > > > Namaste! Your message style is a good lesson to us all.> > > > Om svastyastu!!!> > > > Rgds,> > Richard> > > > sacred-objects, "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd@>> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Vashishtha ji,> > > > > > Shri Jagawat ji has every right and freedom of rejecting the Lal > > > Kitab. But that doesn't effect me, or many others like me, who > > > consider the Lal Kitab as a part of the Vedic astrology> tradition.> > > > > > With naman to all gurujan.> > > > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, "a_jagawat" <a_jagawat@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Friend,> > > > > > > > Let me tell you some views of very learned astrologers about> Lal > > > > Kitab. First of all its origin. There is no record as to its > > > origin > > > > or who wrote it.> > > > > > > > Second it is not logical and sequential like astological> inputs. > > > Its > > > > data is varied and mostly carries remedies which also have no > > > > significance as such. Most of the data is not only illogical> but > > > > completely makes fun of a salient brain. > > > > > > > > Some more interesting facts for you. Lal kitab is often read or> > > > used > > > > when someone runs under Rahu's period. I do not want to tell> you > > > > what is the significance of Rahu over here. I know you know> about > > > > it. Ask Mr. Raghunath Rao or Mr.Sanjay Rath. They can tell you > > > more > > > > about it.> > > > > > > > Please do not mind but getting the right predictions does not> mean > > > > that you are a good astrologer. I have seen that even> Charlatans > > > > perform this art very well. Astrology to be very precise is a > > > highly > > > > evolved science. It requires pin pointed logics and hard> grounds.> > > > > > > > Have you heard about Reiki. It is very prevelant in India. An > > > eight > > > > year old girl called eleven Reiki grand masters to a place and > > > > proved that what ever they were doing was not only false but> their > > > > claims were all wrong. Now even if i tell people that Reiki> will > > > not > > > > help them, i will not be able to shatter their hopes. This is > > > > because Thugs and Charlatans have outshined reality in such a> way > > > > that one cannot dare say anything about reality.> > > > > > > > Dear Friend, sorry for being rude. My intention is not to hurt > > > you. > > > > If you understand Gemini and Parashara then never think about> Lal > > > > Kitab or such things.> > > > > > > > Who knows there will be some Kali Kitab or Peeli Kitab one day.> > > > That > > > > will be a new Sun for Charlatans.> > > > > > > > A.J> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, Ram Lubhaya Vashisth > > > > <rlvashisth@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear friends,> > > > > A good number of Astrologers in Punjab are> using > > > Lal > > > > Kitab for their predictions.Although I myself rely on Prashar> and > > > > Jamini but I have seen that> > > > > predictions of some Astrologers who use Lal Kitab had been > > > > correct and remedies> > > > > described in this treaties also work very well.> > > > > Some learned members in this group are of the view > > > that > > > > Lal Kitab is not an> > > > > Astrological Treaties.As such,I invite views of learned > > > members > > > > of this group that> > > > > weather Lal Kitab is an Astrological Treaties or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Er. Ram Lubhaya Vashisth, Astrologer > > > > > Briskeveien - 15, Vestofossen > > > > > Norway. > > > > > Ph. 0047 - 32756858> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail> > > > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > 9;s eye Bona fide Yellow sapphire Sacred Blue> sapphires > > > > > > ! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web.> > > > > > sacred-objects> > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of> Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try the new Philippines Front Page!> >> > > > > > > > > > > 9;s eye Bona fide Yellow sapphire Sacred Blue> sapphires > > > > > > Visit your group "sacred-objects" on the web.> > > sacred-objects> > Your use of is subject to the Terms of> Service. > > > > > > > > > > > Try the new Philippines Front Page!Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Try the new Philippines Front Page! 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